Zimmerman would not even be on trial if the politicians were not afraid of having to react to rioting negros.
Posted on 02/05/2013 9:10:30 AM PST by Uncle Chip
Edited on 02/05/2013 9:12:02 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]
SANFORD – A judge has denied George Zimmerman's request to delay his trial in the shooting death of Trayvon Martin.
O'Mara ... wanted Zimmerman's trial delayed. O'Mara had argued in a lengthy motion that there's much work left to be done, and many depositions to conduct. The defense, he said, has had to fight the state for key evidence, and can't possibly be ready by June.
(Excerpt) Read more at chicagotribune.com ...
No problem....Becomes grounds for appeal in case the state and judge remains stuck on stupid.
The Obama dictator must have decreed that the railroads will run on time
No problem except that it is now clear that the judge is in on the kangaroo court.
ice aw th at
The interesting fight will be over jury selection and each side’s for cause challenges.
Oh please, it’s been a long time since the shooting and the trial is not until June. I think the defense can take a couple of depositions by then. Hardly a kangaroo court because of this.
When is the last time you tried to get evidence from a prosecutor that was playing games?
or tried to get the prosecutor to show up for a deposition? (the prosecutor must be present for the deposition to have any value at court)
would you be as cavalier if it was your freedom on the line?
That there is even going to be a trial proves this is a kangaroo court.
This trial is starting to look like the famous Scopes Monkey Trial.
Hell, they might even dig up old Clarence Darrow and William Jennings Bryan to add an even more festive circus atmosphere to this debacle. I saw the innocent cuddly babes parents out on the street singing happy birthday out in front of the court house.
What a sham trial this is going to be!
When did Mike Nifong become a judge?
It has been a kangeroo court from day one.
The whole process has been a joke. Zimmerman would not even be on trial if the politicians were not afraid of having to react to rioting negros. The persecution has leaked witness names and photos of Saint Trayvons body, has been caught several times witholding crucial evidence and has even tried to intimidate Z into a plea deal by threatening to charge his wife with perjury. Now the persecution is stonewalling in an attempt to prevent Z from iluminating more of its misconduct. Any judge with a lick of professionalism or integrity would have the prosecution on a very short leash at this point.
Clarence Darrow successfully defended a famous “stand your ground” case in Detroit in the 1926.
Clarence Darrow successfully defended a famous “stand your ground” case in Detroit in 1926.
And, as all can clearly see, he did it twice!
Poor George. Ol’ Judge is going to see that he gets a fair trial and a fine hangin’.
The whole damned mess is an attempted political lynching. It should never have reached the court level at all.
How many similar cases were in Chicago last year (though black on Negro!), ~500? How many went to court? Zero, you say?
Orrrr this case is going to be resolve with a stand your ground motion.
It's a simple self defense case.
It won’t be a Stand Your Ground defense. Zimmerman wasn’t standing; he was on his back. This is regular, old self-defense.
No, it doesn’t imply Zimmerman pursued Martin. Stand Your Ground implies just that: you stood your ground. It removes the “duty to retreat” which plagues states like mine. Zimmerman wasn’t standing, and so had no ability let alone duty to retreat, and for that reason it is not a Stand Your Ground case.
Unless regular, old self-defense is now handled under a law with “Stand Your Ground” in the title, in which case it would technically be a Stand Your Ground defense, even though it isn’t. But my understanding is the SYG law indemnifies you against arrest, not merely conviction, which is why he wasn’t under arrest before the public furor. So according to it he shouldn’t even be in a position to offer a defense, and wouldn’t be if it weren’t for this Nifong of a DA.
Obviously there is some judge-fixing going on. This is a prosecutor that is not local...against an attorney with much local court experience
The prosecution has no case. They will not find enough Black Racists in Seminole to convict. Having been a juror in a few cases in this County....few blacks are in Seminole jury pools
This case is embarrassing.....and costly....for us. Zimmerman would not be on trial if Trayvon was white
I read Arc of Justice but not the other one.
This case is about bringing a White Hispanic to justice for the unwarranted murder of a racially-priveledged young man in Obama/Holder's Afro-merica.
Ben Crump’s affidavit that he dumped on the court today so as to avoid today’s deposition:
Excellent story little known in America, but almost totally unknown to blacks. You’d think it would be featured in American history class, but you’d be wrong.
come on man,
This here b Floriduh
O'Mara also admitted in his motion that the prosecution is in compliance with the law, so I don't find the ruling surprising.
“Stand your Ground” defense = Zimmerman can go on with his life.
“Self Defense” = Zimmerman will be sued into poverty for the rest of his life.
fl law does not work that way.
travon was the one escalating to physical force.
The case is about lawyers wanting to be able to sue again. With stand your ground, the lawyers have a statutory prohibition against seeking civil damagaes.
(ps it also lowers insurance rate liability)
You expected differently? They are going to crucify Zimmerman. This trial is a mockery of justice--has been since the onset--and the obama administration, et al, intend to use it against law-abiding gun owners who fire in self-defense. Do not be surprised when we hear that "tragedies like this" are part of the reason citizens need to be disarmed.
Hearing — hear here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=2_LHB4Vz2Og#!
At 44:40 on the tape hear how Benjamin Crump has been promoted.
He is the Private Attorney General.
Zimmerman would not even be on trial if the politicians were not afraid of having to react to rioting negros.
the obama administration, et al, intend to use it against law-abiding gun owners who fire in self-defense. Do not be surprised when we hear that "tragedies like this" are part of the reason citizens need to be disarmed.
PEOPLE:
Please, if you intend on using Zimmerman’s LAST name, please also use Martin’s last name.
I’m SO SICK of seeing the thug’s first name and the victim’s last name used always.....
I only refer to him as either “Saint Skittles” or “the dead perp”.
You can’t use the perp’s first name without copyright infringement, you know...
I have been worried from beginning that George was going to get railroaded.
I am impressed with Mark O as a lawyer, I think he can do well in trial, however the jury selection process is probably were the case will be decided.
I guess no self defense hearing...stand your ground? Yes I heard Mark from all sides on this one, at one point I read that he said it did not apply in this case, and I have heard him suggest it might?
I think we need the separate trial just for the extra chance.
I am also concerned that haters will use his weight against him, I know this is wrong but I fear the backlash. He was so handsome about a year ago in a beautiful suit with some nice hair.
Yes it should not have anything top do with the case, but this is thje real world, they look at him as they buy into the prosecution lies, meanwhile are side has to remind that he was a much smaller man when this took place
Yes I am worried
I didn't really expect anything different but it still makes me angry. Sadly, this is not Obama justice but rather Rick Scott (Republican establishment) justice. IIRC the locals were going to drop the case till the race pimps got involved. Scott chose to persecute Zimmerman rather than to stand up to violent, racist black culture.
The riots will be much worse when he’s declared not guilty than had he not been charged.
And they say nobody needs a 30 round magazine.
“Zimmerman would not even be on trial if the politicians were not afraid of having to react to rioting negros.”
Yep.
“I’m SO SICK...”
Why?
Uncle Chip, I’m trying to remember where this incident occured...was it Georgia?
Here’s one today from Georgia that you haven’t heard about.
Nkosi Thandiwe Sentenced for killing spree; says he learned to hate white people in college
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2985617/posts
That article doesn’t really contradict what I said, and in fact contains palpable errors. For instance, though it claims you “WILL” be arrested and cops have no discretion over who gets charged, obviously that’s untrue considering the cops let Zimmerman go. Wasn’t until the media frenzy months later that he was charged.
The article does bring up an important facet of Stand Your Ground, however, and one that might contradict my argument. Just because you’re on your back doesn’t mean you are justified in shooting the guy atop you. What precipitated the fight matters. According to the DA Zimmerman is guilty of 2nd degree murder because he ignored the lawful order to break off pursuit of Martin. Which is utterly stupid. I could understand charging him with something on that basis, but not murder two.
Anyway, Stand Your Ground would remove the “duty to retreat” supposedly violated by Zimmerman when he maintained pursuit. So that would perhaps be his best defense. But he doesn’t need it, and in my opinion it would have been justified homicide in any state in the nation. For it was not a lawful order, and not given by a cop. Were it given by some authority on the scene he’d probably have to follow it, considering we grant wide latitude to the peacekeeping powers of the police. But it wasn’t. It wasn’t even phrased as an order. We also have no proof of whether or not he followed it.
Zimmerman’s tracking Martin was not illegal. Zimmerman had a perfect right to be there. If Zimmerman started the fight, we can’t prove it for lack of evidence. He was on his back, and so had no ability let alone duty to retreat from that point. The prosecution’s strongest argument will be that none of this would’ve happened had Zimmerman not followed Martin. However, that’s like the “she was asking for it” rape defense. Nothing we know Zimmerman did requires a Stand Your Ground defense to cover.
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