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Judge denies George Zimmerman's request to delay trial
Chicago Tribune ^ | February 5, 2013 | Rene Stutzman and Jeff Weiner

Posted on 02/05/2013 9:10:30 AM PST by Uncle Chip

Edited on 02/05/2013 9:12:02 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

SANFORD A judge has denied George Zimmerman's request to delay his trial in the shooting death of Trayvon Martin.

O'Mara ... wanted Zimmerman's trial delayed. O'Mara had argued in a lengthy motion that there's much work left to be done, and many depositions to conduct. The defense, he said, has had to fight the state for key evidence, and can't possibly be ready by June.


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1 posted on 02/05/2013 9:10:34 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

No problem....Becomes grounds for appeal in case the state and judge remains stuck on stupid.


2 posted on 02/05/2013 9:23:38 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Uncle Chip

The Obama dictator must have decreed that the railroads will run on time


3 posted on 02/05/2013 9:28:08 AM PST by Mr. K (There are lies, damned lies, statistics, and democrat talking points.)
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To: Uncle Chip
Get it? Do you see what I did there? Railroads (as in railroading the innocent victime, Zimmerman)
4 posted on 02/05/2013 9:29:31 AM PST by Mr. K (There are lies, damned lies, statistics, and democrat talking points.)
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To: Sacajaweau

No problem except that it is now clear that the judge is in on the kangaroo court.


6 posted on 02/05/2013 9:30:49 AM PST by RightOnTheBorder
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To: Mr. K

ice aw th at


7 posted on 02/05/2013 9:37:57 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: RightOnTheBorder

The interesting fight will be over jury selection and each side’s for cause challenges.


8 posted on 02/05/2013 9:41:09 AM PST by libstripper
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To: RightOnTheBorder

Oh please, it’s been a long time since the shooting and the trial is not until June. I think the defense can take a couple of depositions by then. Hardly a kangaroo court because of this.


9 posted on 02/05/2013 9:41:19 AM PST by Williams (No Obama)
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To: Williams
Oh please, it’s been a long time since the shooting and the trial is not until June. I think the defense can take a couple of depositions by then. Hardly a kangaroo court because of this.

When is the last time you tried to get evidence from a prosecutor that was playing games?

or tried to get the prosecutor to show up for a deposition? (the prosecutor must be present for the deposition to have any value at court)

would you be as cavalier if it was your freedom on the line?

10 posted on 02/05/2013 9:45:58 AM PST by Abundy
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To: Williams

That there is even going to be a trial proves this is a kangaroo court.


11 posted on 02/05/2013 9:51:47 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Uncle Chip

This trial is starting to look like the famous Scopes Monkey Trial.

Hell, they might even dig up old Clarence Darrow and William Jennings Bryan to add an even more festive circus atmosphere to this debacle. I saw the innocent cuddly babes parents out on the street singing happy birthday out in front of the court house.

What a sham trial this is going to be!


12 posted on 02/05/2013 9:54:20 AM PST by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: Uncle Chip

When did Mike Nifong become a judge?


13 posted on 02/05/2013 9:55:49 AM PST by Slings and Arrows (You can't have IngSoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: Williams

It has been a kangeroo court from day one.


14 posted on 02/05/2013 9:57:11 AM PST by sport
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To: Williams

The whole process has been a joke. Zimmerman would not even be on trial if the politicians were not afraid of having to react to rioting negros. The persecution has leaked witness names and photos of Saint Trayvons body, has been caught several times witholding crucial evidence and has even tried to intimidate Z into a plea deal by threatening to charge his wife with perjury. Now the persecution is stonewalling in an attempt to prevent Z from iluminating more of its misconduct. Any judge with a lick of professionalism or integrity would have the prosecution on a very short leash at this point.


15 posted on 02/05/2013 10:00:18 AM PST by RightOnTheBorder
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To: DH

Clarence Darrow successfully defended a famous “stand your ground” case in Detroit in the 1926.


16 posted on 02/05/2013 10:01:39 AM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: DH

Clarence Darrow successfully defended a famous “stand your ground” case in Detroit in 1926.


17 posted on 02/05/2013 10:02:05 AM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: Larry Lucido

And, as all can clearly see, he did it twice!


18 posted on 02/05/2013 10:06:53 AM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Uncle Chip

Poor George. Ol’ Judge is going to see that he gets a fair trial and a fine hangin’.


19 posted on 02/05/2013 10:07:36 AM PST by Falcon4.0
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To: Williams

The whole damned mess is an attempted political lynching. It should never have reached the court level at all.


20 posted on 02/05/2013 10:16:55 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: Uncle Chip

How many similar cases were in Chicago last year (though black on Negro!), ~500? How many went to court? Zero, you say?


21 posted on 02/05/2013 10:21:29 AM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Sacajaweau

Orrrr this case is going to be resolve with a stand your ground motion.


22 posted on 02/05/2013 10:25:26 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: longtermmemmory
It really doesn't fit stand you ground and you don't want to go that way because it suggests that YOU pursued a bad guy....i.e., Zimmerman pursued Tray.

It's a simple self defense case.

23 posted on 02/05/2013 10:28:56 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: longtermmemmory

It won’t be a Stand Your Ground defense. Zimmerman wasn’t standing; he was on his back. This is regular, old self-defense.


24 posted on 02/05/2013 10:38:00 AM PST by Tublecane
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To: Sacajaweau

No, it doesn’t imply Zimmerman pursued Martin. Stand Your Ground implies just that: you stood your ground. It removes the “duty to retreat” which plagues states like mine. Zimmerman wasn’t standing, and so had no ability let alone duty to retreat, and for that reason it is not a Stand Your Ground case.

Unless regular, old self-defense is now handled under a law with “Stand Your Ground” in the title, in which case it would technically be a Stand Your Ground defense, even though it isn’t. But my understanding is the SYG law indemnifies you against arrest, not merely conviction, which is why he wasn’t under arrest before the public furor. So according to it he shouldn’t even be in a position to offer a defense, and wouldn’t be if it weren’t for this Nifong of a DA.


25 posted on 02/05/2013 10:46:26 AM PST by Tublecane
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To: Uncle Chip

Obviously there is some judge-fixing going on. This is a prosecutor that is not local...against an attorney with much local court experience

The prosecution has no case. They will not find enough Black Racists in Seminole to convict. Having been a juror in a few cases in this County....few blacks are in Seminole jury pools

This case is embarrassing.....and costly....for us. Zimmerman would not be on trial if Trayvon was white


26 posted on 02/05/2013 10:51:50 AM PST by SeminoleCounty (GOP = Greenlighting Obama's Programs)
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To: Larry Lucido
There are two books, “One Man’s Castle” and “Arc of Justice.” The books offer the historical account of Dr. Ossian Sweet, a black doctor who defended his life, his family and his Detroit home from a violent mob provoked by the Ku Klux Klan in 1925. Sweet was successfully defended by the famed attorney Clarence Darrow, which set judicial precedent for the castle doctrine.


27 posted on 02/05/2013 10:52:59 AM PST by preacher (Communism has only killed 100 million people: Let's give it another chance!)
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To: preacher

I read Arc of Justice but not the other one.


28 posted on 02/05/2013 10:57:54 AM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: Tublecane
Facts Schmacts. What difference, at this point, does it make.

This case is about bringing a White Hispanic to justice for the unwarranted murder of a racially-priveledged young man in Obama/Holder's Afro-merica.

29 posted on 02/05/2013 11:12:46 AM PST by Aevery_Freeman (Proud Thought Criminal since 1984)
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To: All

Ben Crump’s affidavit that he dumped on the court today so as to avoid today’s deposition:

http://twitdoc.com/view.asp?id=83182&sid=1S6M&ext=PDF&lcl=CJC3rdFlCScan20030204002742.pdf&usr=JeffWeinerOS&doc=123982353&key=key-1wnqlxgscgbdpn6w2fy9


30 posted on 02/05/2013 11:16:07 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Tublecane

http://www.alljujitsu.com/self-defense-law.html


31 posted on 02/05/2013 11:19:04 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: preacher

Excellent story little known in America, but almost totally unknown to blacks. You’d think it would be featured in American history class, but you’d be wrong.


32 posted on 02/05/2013 11:22:58 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Sacajaweau

come on man,
This here b Floriduh


33 posted on 02/05/2013 11:40:19 AM PST by Joe Boucher ((FUBO))
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To: Uncle Chip
O'Mara ... wanted Zimmerman's trial delayed. O'Mara had argued in a lengthy motion that there's much work left to be done, and many depositions to conduct.

O'Mara also admitted in his motion that the prosecution is in compliance with the law, so I don't find the ruling surprising.

34 posted on 02/05/2013 12:05:10 PM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Sacajaweau

“Stand your Ground” defense = Zimmerman can go on with his life.

“Self Defense” = Zimmerman will be sued into poverty for the rest of his life.


35 posted on 02/05/2013 12:12:45 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: Sacajaweau

fl law does not work that way.

travon was the one escalating to physical force.

The case is about lawyers wanting to be able to sue again. With stand your ground, the lawyers have a statutory prohibition against seeking civil damagaes.

(ps it also lowers insurance rate liability)


36 posted on 02/05/2013 12:38:10 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: RightOnTheBorder
"No problem except that it is now clear that the judge is in on the kangaroo court."

You expected differently? They are going to crucify Zimmerman. This trial is a mockery of justice--has been since the onset--and the obama administration, et al, intend to use it against law-abiding gun owners who fire in self-defense. Do not be surprised when we hear that "tragedies like this" are part of the reason citizens need to be disarmed.

37 posted on 02/05/2013 12:44:03 PM PST by ronnyquest (I spent 20 years in the Army fighting the enemies of freedom only to see marxism elected at home.)
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Hearing — hear here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=2_LHB4Vz2Og#!

At 44:40 on the tape hear how Benjamin Crump has been promoted.

He is the Private Attorney General.


38 posted on 02/05/2013 12:49:27 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: RightOnTheBorder

Zimmerman would not even be on trial if the politicians were not afraid of having to react to rioting negros.

39 posted on 02/05/2013 12:56:39 PM PST by Old Sarge (We are officially over the precipice, we just havent struck the ground yet...)
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To: ronnyquest
Sorry, I spoke too soon, you're the runner up:

the obama administration, et al, intend to use it against law-abiding gun owners who fire in self-defense. Do not be surprised when we hear that "tragedies like this" are part of the reason citizens need to be disarmed.

40 posted on 02/05/2013 1:05:47 PM PST by Old Sarge (We are officially over the precipice, we just havent struck the ground yet...)
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To: Old Sarge

PEOPLE:

Please, if you intend on using Zimmerman’s LAST name, please also use Martin’s last name.

I’m SO SICK of seeing the thug’s first name and the victim’s last name used always.....


41 posted on 02/05/2013 1:19:57 PM PST by bicyclerepair (toodamtall1@yahoo.com)
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To: bicyclerepair

I only refer to him as either “Saint Skittles” or “the dead perp”.

You can’t use the perp’s first name without copyright infringement, you know...


42 posted on 02/05/2013 1:32:40 PM PST by Old Sarge (We are officially over the precipice, we just havent struck the ground yet...)
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To: Uncle Chip

I have been worried from beginning that George was going to get railroaded.

I am impressed with Mark O as a lawyer, I think he can do well in trial, however the jury selection process is probably were the case will be decided.

I guess no self defense hearing...stand your ground? Yes I heard Mark from all sides on this one, at one point I read that he said it did not apply in this case, and I have heard him suggest it might?

I think we need the separate trial just for the extra chance.

I am also concerned that haters will use his weight against him, I know this is wrong but I fear the backlash. He was so handsome about a year ago in a beautiful suit with some nice hair.

Yes it should not have anything top do with the case, but this is thje real world, they look at him as they buy into the prosecution lies, meanwhile are side has to remind that he was a much smaller man when this took place

Yes I am worried


43 posted on 02/05/2013 2:10:38 PM PST by Friendofgeorge (SARAH PALIN 2016 OR BUST)
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To: ronnyquest
You expected differently? They are going to crucify Zimmerman

I didn't really expect anything different but it still makes me angry. Sadly, this is not Obama justice but rather Rick Scott (Republican establishment) justice. IIRC the locals were going to drop the case till the race pimps got involved. Scott chose to persecute Zimmerman rather than to stand up to violent, racist black culture.

44 posted on 02/05/2013 2:27:14 PM PST by RightOnTheBorder
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To: RightOnTheBorder

The riots will be much worse when he’s declared not guilty than had he not been charged.


45 posted on 02/05/2013 2:47:40 PM PST by J05h
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To: J05h
The riots will be much worse when he’s declared not guilty than had he not been charged.

And they say nobody needs a 30 round magazine.

46 posted on 02/05/2013 3:04:13 PM PST by RightOnTheBorder
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To: RightOnTheBorder

“Zimmerman would not even be on trial if the politicians were not afraid of having to react to rioting negros.”

Yep.


47 posted on 02/05/2013 3:19:15 PM PST by TheThirdRuffian (RINOS like Romney, McCain, Dole are sure losers. No more!)
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To: bicyclerepair

“I’m SO SICK...”

Why?


48 posted on 02/05/2013 3:30:52 PM PST by Tublecane
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To: Uncle Chip; All

Uncle Chip, I’m trying to remember where this incident occured...was it Georgia?

Here’s one today from Georgia that you haven’t heard about.

Nkosi Thandiwe Sentenced for killing spree; says he learned to hate white people in college
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2985617/posts


49 posted on 02/05/2013 3:35:08 PM PST by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: Sacajaweau

That article doesn’t really contradict what I said, and in fact contains palpable errors. For instance, though it claims you “WILL” be arrested and cops have no discretion over who gets charged, obviously that’s untrue considering the cops let Zimmerman go. Wasn’t until the media frenzy months later that he was charged.

The article does bring up an important facet of Stand Your Ground, however, and one that might contradict my argument. Just because you’re on your back doesn’t mean you are justified in shooting the guy atop you. What precipitated the fight matters. According to the DA Zimmerman is guilty of 2nd degree murder because he ignored the lawful order to break off pursuit of Martin. Which is utterly stupid. I could understand charging him with something on that basis, but not murder two.

Anyway, Stand Your Ground would remove the “duty to retreat” supposedly violated by Zimmerman when he maintained pursuit. So that would perhaps be his best defense. But he doesn’t need it, and in my opinion it would have been justified homicide in any state in the nation. For it was not a lawful order, and not given by a cop. Were it given by some authority on the scene he’d probably have to follow it, considering we grant wide latitude to the peacekeeping powers of the police. But it wasn’t. It wasn’t even phrased as an order. We also have no proof of whether or not he followed it.

Zimmerman’s tracking Martin was not illegal. Zimmerman had a perfect right to be there. If Zimmerman started the fight, we can’t prove it for lack of evidence. He was on his back, and so had no ability let alone duty to retreat from that point. The prosecution’s strongest argument will be that none of this would’ve happened had Zimmerman not followed Martin. However, that’s like the “she was asking for it” rape defense. Nothing we know Zimmerman did requires a Stand Your Ground defense to cover.


50 posted on 02/05/2013 4:02:44 PM PST by Tublecane
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