Seriously folks there is middle ground between supporting establishment RINOs and putting crowns on the heads of whatever amateur screams the loudest that they are King or Queen of the Tea party.
Posted on 02/05/2013 6:37:33 AM PST by SeekAndFind
In my world, you help those who are in positions capable of supporting one’s favorite causes. Supporting those who demonstrate their beliefs are true and those who are not likely to fall into the political machine and lose themselves, should be important. Each of these you lambaste, including Cruz, fit that criteria. However, Cruz won in a conservative state, and for this, you are proud to say you support him.
If the person can win their state's primary, that already helps prove they have much of the capacity to win in the general election. That should be enough for most.
Unless one can get in “sickoflibs” time machine. Then you can be assured of only helping "winners".
I'm “sickofRINOs.”
IF you supported them at some time before their loss that is one thing.
But your defending them afterward is another, it means you either cant accept reality and learn from your mistakes or you are a covert Dem paid by MSNBC to help Dems win elections.
And if you EVER defend a loser you voted for, I’ll remind you that “you are a covert Dem paid by MSNBC to help Dems win elections,” as well.
Paging Karl Rove, Karl Rove please pick up the courtesy phone.
I proudly voted for him.
Boehner shines? Who knew?
I could deal with a Rubio/Cruz ticket. Does that make me racist against whites?
I could deal with a Rubio/Cruz ticket. Does that make me racist against whites?
We need a bench with people just like Cruz - conservative, but politically savvy.
If I defend some loser who threw away the election for no good reason and helped keep the power at the national election in Dems hands then I would deserve it.
Those three took easy wins and threw them away for nothing.
There is no rational defense of them.
Sickoflibs is basically right. I'll cut Angle a little slack because she was a political neophyte. Akin and Mourdock were not. They blew easy election wins because they provided the jaw-droppingly stupid sound byte to allow the RAT b*st*rds to make the election about abortions for rape exceptions.
I have a hard time believing they could possibly be that dense. I find it easier to believe they were paid to take a dive.
Was his father a US citizen when Cruz was born?
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His father didn’t become a US citizen until 2005 according to the following.
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Cruz brags about how his Cuban father fought with rebels supporting Fidel Castro against dictator Fulgencio Batista in the 1950s, before Castro announced that he was a communist. Rafael Cruz fled the country and graduated from the University of Texas at Austin, then moved to Canada to work in the oil fields near Alberta, where Ted Cruz was born. The family eventually moved to Houston, and his father became a U.S. citizen in 2005.
An answer you might get to that here is ‘Well we should have made the election about rape exceptions as that is the #1 issue facing this country’.
My answer to that is that they trivialized life based social issues by handing Dems a reality commercial (of them) showing that so-cons dont even know the basic biology of a female’s reproductive systems, and completely nuked ‘their own’ prolife cause and made those who champion it the laughing stock of the country by becoming a caricature of them.
so-cons should despise them more than anyone Else rather than defend them.
So she asks me "Cant they tie him up till they are rescued??"
Of course, I have the sense not to talk about men's fashion tips.
Since I grew up on a farm and my Dad was a veterinarian, I probably know a lot about female reproductive systems. If you can get past the sheer stupidity of the context of Akin and Mourdock's comments, what they said was even mostly correct. There was a popular statistic tossed around at the time that fully one-third of rapes resulted in pregnancies. That's pure bull hockey, because if it were true, and consensual intercourse resulted in about the same rate (it is actually higher for reasons discussed at that time back in August), then Mrs. Vigilanteman should have been pregnant close to 1000 times, rather than three times.
None of this is the point. These nimrods lost the argument, lost the election and did untold damage to other GOP candidates the moment they allowed themselves to be dragged into that swamp. It was 1000 times worse than George Allen's infamous maccaca moment.
Thank you.
Seriously folks there is middle ground between supporting establishment RINOs and putting crowns on the heads of whatever amateur screams the loudest that they are King or Queen of the Tea party.
Akin was my pick in that primary. A FRiend was warning he was not ready for prime time. I argued about him with it “why isn’t Akin a first tier candidate?” but he turned out to be right.
He flat out cost us a seat by refusing to quit after he was no longer viable (the reason why he couldn’t win is irrelevant, he couldn’t win so he should’ve quit, he could have had a future, now his career is an elected official is over)
Those of in the know warned about Angle because of her history of losing races. Like when she lost a GOP House primary and whined for a re-vote (not a recount). Sue Lowden or Danny Tarkainian would be in the Senate right now. But Angle conned enough people for her to win the primary.
Mourdock is different cause he was running against an elderly RINO incumbent and as a twice elected State Treasurer who would have thought he’d run such a lousy race? Very disappointing.
he was no longer viable because the Vichy GOPe joined the leftwing media against him.
I seriously have nothing but pure disdain for the Vichy GOPe at this point.
I disagree, his gaffe turned enough voters against him that Mitt Romney and the entire party could have jumped to his defense and it wouldn’t have helped.
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