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Cantor to GOP Ranks: Government Can Be Good, Too
Newsmax ^ | Monday, 04 Feb 2013 10:54 AM

Posted on 02/04/2013 12:06:13 PM PST by Olog-hai

House Majority Leader Eric Cantor apparently wants his Republican colleagues to pursue a “government can be good” approach to their politics rather than focusing so much on the size and voracious spending appetite of Washington. …

Citing an unidentified congressional aide as its source, the (Wall Street) Journal said Cantor plans to touch on a host of existing policies and initiatives, from school choice to tax reform, to show how families nationwide would benefit more from Republican ideas rather than those offered by Democrats. …

(Excerpt) Read more at newsmax.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: biggovernment; ericcantor; gope; gopestablishment; nomorerinos; norinos; rino; rinosbegone; sayno2rinos

1 posted on 02/04/2013 12:06:19 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai
Statists to the left of me, statists to the right...

We are really a 1-party country, huh, Cantor?

2 posted on 02/04/2013 12:07:52 PM PST by backwoods-engineer ("Remember: Evil exists because good men don't kill the gov officials committing it." -- K. Hoffmann)
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To: Olog-hai
So can an enema. Both, government and an enema are uncomfortable, unpleasant but necessary.
3 posted on 02/04/2013 12:09:48 PM PST by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: Olog-hai

Mensheviks. The weaker, paler, shorter lived comrades.


4 posted on 02/04/2013 12:09:49 PM PST by Psalm 144 (Capitol to the districts: "May the odds be ever in your favor.")
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To: Olog-hai

More reason to contintue telling the Republicans to kiss my arse.

Bring on a true conservative party.


5 posted on 02/04/2013 12:10:10 PM PST by RatRipper (Self-centeredness, greed, envy, deceit and lawless corruption has killed this once great nation.)
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To: Olog-hai

“Can be good...” is too general.

Could you be more specific, Cantor? The fact is that pretty much all of you are in government because you cannot do anything else capable of providing you with a livable salary...and you have retaliated by making sure that this is true for a lot of other folks who are much better than you are.

You are a RINO, and as such, should join the dim bulb crats in shoving it up your smelly Obama.


6 posted on 02/04/2013 12:11:00 PM PST by Da Coyote
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To: Olog-hai

House Majority Leader Eric Cantor apparently wants his Republican colleagues to pursue a “government can be good” approach to their politics


WHY?... the boy is “peeking” out of the closet..


7 posted on 02/04/2013 12:11:17 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: Olog-hai

I don’t go so far as to say it’s a necessary evil, though I do love that phrase. But government good? Not usually.

By the way, the programs mentioned in the excerpt, school choice and tax reform, depending upon what he means by the latter, are not examples of good government. They are less government. They are the absence of government where it used to be before.


8 posted on 02/04/2013 12:11:24 PM PST by Tublecane
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To: Olog-hai

No, not really, Rep. Cantor. Even if I allowed for the possibility of government to be “good”, the risks are simply too great to allow it, as history has repeatedly shown.


9 posted on 02/04/2013 12:11:33 PM PST by kevkrom (If a wise man has an argument with a foolish man, the fool only rages or laughs...)
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To: Olog-hai

It sort of misses the point, IMHO. I think a majority probably recognizes that government is at best a necessary evil, but where I think he does have a point is that the endless harping on the need to cut government doesn’t really resonate that well. I wish they would just stick with cutting taxes as the unifying agenda, and let the Democrats sweat the need to balance the overall budget a little more.


10 posted on 02/04/2013 12:13:41 PM PST by Behind the Blue Wall
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To: Olog-hai

Cantor voted against the deal with Obama last month but it looks like more political trickery.

By the way, Rubio cast a NO vote as well.

His political snake dancing as well.

OVER 90 PERCENT OF THE REPUBLICANS WE ELECT ARE PHONY BALONEY BUSINESS AS USUAL POLITICIANS.

A total housecleaning is needed next year starting with GOP primary challenges in over 90 percent of the offices we elect plus third party candidates ready to run if the RINO wins the primary.

WE CAN NEVER VOTE AGAIN FOR A BUSINESS AS USUAL RINO POLITICIAN.


11 posted on 02/04/2013 12:18:37 PM PST by Nextrush (PRESIDENT SARAH PALIN IS MY DREAM)
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To: Olog-hai
Cantor, please go and read the Founders thoughts on government.

Their views are in line with Paine's words, "A necessary evil."

12 posted on 02/04/2013 12:18:45 PM PST by sand88
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To: Olog-hai

Fire can be good too, IF it is confined to the stove, Right now the HOUSE is on fire and we have fools telling us we should sit on the lawn and enjoy the warmth....


13 posted on 02/04/2013 12:19:11 PM PST by GraceG
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To: Olog-hai

Cantor has his good moments, but he’s almost as bad as Boehner. Our principles tell us that we need a strong, limited government that serves a narrow set of purposes...and no more than those items. None of our leadership can speak to those principles from the heart...and that’s why we squandered 2012.


14 posted on 02/04/2013 12:19:47 PM PST by ilgipper (Obama supporters are comprised of the uninformed & the ill-informed)
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To: Olog-hai

Eric turned to the dark side the minute he reached Washington.


15 posted on 02/04/2013 12:20:03 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (TYRANNY: When the people fear the politicians. LIBERTY: When the politicians fear the people.)
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To: sand88

George Washington:
A government is like fire, a handy servant, but a dangerous master.


16 posted on 02/04/2013 12:21:31 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: backwoods-engineer

After reading your post, I feel like having a cheeseburger and margarita...


17 posted on 02/04/2013 12:22:07 PM PST by newfreep (Breitbart sent me...)
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To: Olog-hai

Our government is good when it secures the borders, kills savages who plot mass destruction, and imprisons criminals and crazies who refuse to respect the lives and property rights of others. Other than that: I don’t want any, thanks.


18 posted on 02/04/2013 12:23:51 PM PST by andy58-in-nh (Cogito, ergo armatum sum.)
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To: suspects; holdonnow

Aye carumba...


19 posted on 02/04/2013 12:26:44 PM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Olog-hai

The only way government can be good is to get out of the way and be invisible until we need resources for defense against invaders.


20 posted on 02/04/2013 12:27:47 PM PST by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: Olog-hai

Government will be “good” when man is good. The Founders knew better and carefully crafted a brilliant division of power to the end that government would be limited to a size where it could be carefully watched.

Cantor is just voicing his “Inner Libtard”.


21 posted on 02/04/2013 12:28:39 PM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."..)
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To: Olog-hai

It is getting to the point that I think voting for craziest most incompetent Democrats (Cynthia McKinney type) is the best way to bring this all to a head and get on with the collapse.


22 posted on 02/04/2013 12:29:49 PM PST by MCF
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To: Olog-hai
It's really important to play this correctly, IMHO. The goal should be to marginalize and de-fang the activists, and paint them as the extreme radicals. I happen to think that for many this is just telling the truth, because their beliefs truly are radical.

I think the Republicans should push the concept that government should be receptive, responsible, and humble and not preach to the citizens who give it life, that as elected officials they are the employees of the citizenry, and that they have the responsibility to be careful and thoughtful caretakers.

It's much easier to make arguments for fiscal responsibility when you are doing it from the perspective of the thoughtful caretakers trying to prevent devaluation of the savings of grandma and grandpa. The GOP has been really horrible with PR.

23 posted on 02/04/2013 12:32:53 PM PST by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: backwoods-engineer

Judenrats.

That’s what the GOP is become officially.

They know where the power is going to lie in a MarxoFascist State - and they want to be sure to be able to share in it.


24 posted on 02/04/2013 12:36:47 PM PST by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Olog-hai

Is this a joke?


25 posted on 02/04/2013 12:41:53 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Olog-hai

The GI Bill and the interstate highway system number among the finest of government achievements.


26 posted on 02/04/2013 12:47:15 PM PST by ex-snook (God is Love)
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To: backwoods-engineer
You must keep in mind that about 99.999% of the folks named Cantor grew up in a hard-core Democrat background and actually have little understanding of or appreciation for American history, or our divided government concepts.

He's a little faster than the others, but not much. At least he's a Republican. Now, to turn him into a Conservative we probably need to redistrict him so he finds out there's no 10% of a moderate undecided middle who are going to hep' him out in a 'lection!

27 posted on 02/04/2013 12:54:42 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Olog-hai
"We, the People" must let our elected officials, including Cantor, know that we hold them accountable to act within the strict limitations of our Constitution.

That Constitution was intended limit the government and leave the people free to the pursuit of their own happiness. In that sense, the Framers believe, self-government to be a "good" concept.

"Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master." - George Washington

That's why America's Founders placed the "chains of the Constitution" (Jefferson) upon the three branches of government.

By the Founders' formula, "the People's" written Constitution was the anchor of our liberties, binding government to the "People's" limitations on its power.

The current philosophy of so-called "progressives," in effect, undoes all the monumental work accomplished by the Founders on behalf of liberty and leaves the law afloat and without anchor, relying, as of old, on mere men and women.

From Page xv of "Our Ageless Constitution," allow me to include here excerpted words from President Andrew Jackson's Proclamation of December 10, 1832:

"We have received it [the Constitution] as the work of the assembled wisdom of the nation. We have trusted to it as to the sheet anchor of our safety in the stormy times of conflict with a foreign or domestic foe. We have looked to it with sacred awe as the palladium of our liberties, and with all the solemnities of religion have pledged to each other our lives and fortunes here and our hopes of happiness hereafter in its defense and support. Were we mistaken, my countrymen, in attaching this importance to the Constitution . . .? No. We were not mistaken. The letter of this great instrument is free from this radical fault. . . . No, we did not err! . . . The sages . . . have given us a practical and, as they hoped, a permanent* Constitutional compact. . . . The Constitution is still the object of our reverence, the bond of our Union, our defense in danger, the source of our prosperity in peace: it shall descend, as we have received it, uncorrupted by sophistical construction, to our posterity. . . ."

*Underlining added for emphasis

And, it was Thomas Jefferson who used another metaphor with reference to the Constitution when he indicated that "the People" must "bind them (government) by the chains of the Constitution." In another instance, he declared: "It was intended to lace them up straitly within the enumerated powers. . . ."

28 posted on 02/04/2013 12:56:57 PM PST by loveliberty2
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To: Olog-hai

Sure it can but only if it’s about 5% the size it is now.


29 posted on 02/04/2013 12:58:02 PM PST by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: Olog-hai
Wrong Mr. Cantor. . ."Government, AT ITS BEST. . a necessary evil. . .at its worst. . an intolerable one." Thomas Paine
30 posted on 02/04/2013 1:06:40 PM PST by McBuff
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To: GraceG

That’s a good comment

Send that one to Cantor!


31 posted on 02/04/2013 1:07:57 PM PST by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: Da Coyote

Apparently, Mr. Cantor is thinking of all his own salary and benefits in saying that government “can be good”. He, like his colleagues, has too much vested in big government ever to shrink it.


32 posted on 02/04/2013 1:13:06 PM PST by Theodore R. ("Hey, the American people must all be crazy out there!")
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To: Olog-hai

Sometimes, I get to thinking Cantor’s acceptable... then he blurts out crap like this.


33 posted on 02/04/2013 1:17:05 PM PST by ScottinVA (Gun control: Steady firm grip, target within sights, squeeze the trigger slowly...)
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To: Olog-hai

Actually, government can be good... when it stays within its Constitutional functions.

However, I don’t think that’s what Eric has in mind.


34 posted on 02/04/2013 1:19:48 PM PST by ScottinVA (Gun control: Steady firm grip, target within sights, squeeze the trigger slowly...)
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To: RatRipper

Amen to that. The GOP has lost its way completely.


35 posted on 02/04/2013 2:06:18 PM PST by AdaGray (squi)
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To: Olog-hai

This leaves no doubt, if any remained, that Cantor is NOT a conservative. A conservative would know that President Reagan said “government is not the solution to the problem. Government IS the problem”. Someone grounded in that philosophy could never make the comment Cantor made.


36 posted on 02/04/2013 3:09:25 PM PST by JewishRighter
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To: Olog-hai

How in the world can he think that this is the strategy? What should be the strategy is to fan the flames against a govt that is out of control. Poll after poll shows a plurality of average Americans believes govt spending is out of control. This is a strategy to fail. Cantor is being an idiot on this.


37 posted on 02/04/2013 3:19:38 PM PST by Maelstorm (This country wasn't founded with the battle cry "Give me liberty or give me a govt check!")
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To: Olog-hai

This is like a Dr. tell a diabetic “Sugar can be good too”. If not having enough sugar or govt was the problem then maybe it would make sense. That isn’t the case. I’ve met Eric and he’s just wrong on this. This is a recipe to fail. Why is it the GOP types like Cantor always get the wrong message from election failures? The only great successes the GOP have had is when they had a believable clarity on the role of government and ran against its largess and over reach like in 1994 and 2010. Why they would think running soft on the anti spending message would be a winner is beyond me. They aren’t going to out big govt Democrats. There is nothing they can offer that will ever be so big that the left can not top on spending.


38 posted on 02/04/2013 3:24:00 PM PST by Maelstorm (This country wasn't founded with the battle cry "Give me liberty or give me a govt check!")
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To: Maelstorm

Maybe I should send Eric a letter on the matter ~ he didn’t do it (lost the election), they did ~ the Democrats got out more voters!


39 posted on 02/04/2013 4:03:55 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Olog-hai

Water can be good too, but I didn’t hear the people of New Jersey asking for more water as Sandy’s tidal surge came ashore. Government can be good, as he says, but only when it is less than half the size of the current federal behemoth.


40 posted on 02/04/2013 5:28:10 PM PST by Pollster1
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