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What did Republicans win in the immigration deal? (No guarantee on border security!!)
Washington Post ^ | Monday January 28, 2013 | Greg Sargent

Posted on 01/28/2013 11:46:05 AM PST by Bigtigermike

It’s has been widely assumed this morning by some immigration advocates (and by yours truly, too) that the new immigration reform plan’s process of citizenship for the country’s 11 million undocumented immigrants is contingent on a commission of Southwestern officials declaring the border secure.

Not true. I’ve now got clarification from Senate staff working on the bill, and it turns out that the enforcement commission’s judgments will only be advisory, and are entirely nonbinding. Congress’ actions will not be dictated by what this commission concludes; neither will actions taken by the Department of Homeland Security. The citizenship process will be triggered by other means

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But the commission isn’t, for all practical purposes, really a major concession at all. If you look at the framework released by the bipartisan group of eight Senators today, it never quite says directly that the citizenship process can’t move forward until the commission reaches its findings. Rather, it says the plan creates a commission that will make a “recommendation” on when border security has been achieved, and doesn’t specify that this recommendation is what triggers the citizenship process.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: amnesty; democrats; dnctreason; establishment; gope; illegals; mccaintreason; nevertrustarino; rinos4illegals; rinotreason; rubio; stupidparty; treason
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To: Road Glide

A porous American border is the only thing that keeps the Mexican economy afloat. Mexico can cut millions off their own welfare rolls by encouraging surplus population to go north and consumer demand in Mexico is increased by money that is sent by illegals back to their families south of the border. Mexico gets all the benefit and America takes the hit. If amnesty is granted, there will be another 20 million flood across the border in the next 5 years.


51 posted on 01/29/2013 3:48:40 AM PST by littleharbour ("All men having power ought to be distrusted to a certain degree. ~ James Madison)
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To: cotton1706

So Rush is helping Rubio.


52 posted on 01/29/2013 8:56:05 PM PST by Terry Mross (How long does America have?)
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To: Terry Mross

“So Rush is helping Rubio.”

Without a doubt.

Rush has always been worthless in the fight to rid ourselves of the foreign nationals who have planted themselves in America in defiance of the law.

Some of the movers in the Prop 187 fight tried to get him involved as early as 1994 and he always had a lame excuse.

He wouldn’t even take calls on the subject.

It wasn’t until we melted the Senate phone lines when Bush the Useless tried to ram amnesty through that Rush got around to yelling “wait! wait! I am your leader!”

And like every pretender the thing he focuses on is “sealing the border”. The real issue is deporting those who are here. The people afraid of the D word are just wasting our time.


53 posted on 01/29/2013 9:11:31 PM PST by Pelham (Treason, it's not just for Democrats anymore.)
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To: PauldArco

“Nothing but demographic gain for Dems... 11 million new voters for them, and what, exactly for Repubs?”

That “11 million” number has been trotted out for 20 years.

A Wall Street investment firm ran its own study some years back that had no political agenda, just a desire to estimate the size of the illegal alien ‘market’ in the US. That number was close to 30 million.


54 posted on 01/29/2013 9:16:38 PM PST by Pelham (Treason, it's not just for Democrats anymore.)
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To: wiggen

“I am no fan of Rubio but why single him out? He has always been in favor of immigration reform.”

No he hasn’t. When he was in Florida he scuttled attempts by Florida Republicans to address the issue.

What he has always been for is Latino exception to the law. He’s a Jeb Bush protege.


55 posted on 01/29/2013 9:22:25 PM PST by Pelham (Treason, it's not just for Democrats anymore.)
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To: wiggen

Sorry, I misread your post. I definitely agree with you.


56 posted on 01/29/2013 9:25:01 PM PST by Pelham (Treason, it's not just for Democrats anymore.)
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To: SatinDoll
HERE they are. I wouldn't call them capitalists though because they for the most part hate true free enterprise, love big government (to regulate their competition) and promote environmentalism, DIEversity, and globalism.
57 posted on 01/30/2013 10:59:45 AM PST by Count of Monte Fisto
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To: Pelham

Reading your post i was wondering where we differed. The whole issues is largely about Latino’s anyway.


58 posted on 01/31/2013 12:28:53 AM PST by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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