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Illinois Becomes Largest State to Give Licenses to Illegals - With No Safeguards Against Fraud
Stand With Arizona ^ | 01-28-2013 | John Hill

Posted on 01/27/2013 9:14:07 PM PST by montag813


Above: Supporters of granting illegal aliens drivers licenses cheer after
a House committee hearing at the Illinois State Capitol in Springfield.
The House passed the legislation Jan. 8 and Gov. Pat Quinn signed the
legislation Sunday, Jan. 27.  (AP Photo)

by John Hill
Stand with Arizona

In the race to become America's top "Sanctuary State" for illegal aliens, we have a new leader.  Illinois has (temporarily) bested California for that title, and has done so by putting public safety at greater risk.

Both states have in-state tuition for illegal aliens. Both states fight I.C.E. every step of the way to keep illegal from being deported or even discovered. But now only Illinois permits hundreds of thousands of illegal aliens to obtain official drivers licenses.

Governor Pat Quinn (D) hailed the law as an important step for "immigrant rights" in Illinois, but even the left-leaning Associated Press pointed out both the problems with security, as well as the insane rationale used to pass the law:

However, the law's opponents have pointed to hundreds of fraudulent cases in New Mexico, Washington and Utah after those states began giving illegal immigrants permission to drive. Illinois will not require applicants to be fingerprinted, for fear that would discourage immigrants from applying.

"How many people would apply for this document knowing that fingerprints will be going to (federal authorities)? Probably not all that many," said Fred Tsao, policy director of the Illinois Coalition for Immigrant and Refugee Rights, a driving-force behind the measure.

Say what? No fingerprints? That's right...despite the fact that the vast majority of identity theft in the United states is committed by illegal aliens, Illinois will only require a photograph to be taken. Of course this was done to make sure that the fingerprints would not be sent to the FBI (as is typically done), which uses the Secure Communities program to match those prints with the ICE/DHS database to determine if that person has used any (or perhaps multiple) false identities in other states, , have been previously (and perhaps multiple times) been deported - which would make re-entry a felony, or are wanted for a serious crime or are on a terrorist watch list.

In other words, Illinois' new law has zero safeguards against fraud, and put the public at great risk. And Illinois KNEW this when they passed their law - because the 3 other states which also allow it have provided cautionary tales for how not to do it, and Illinois ignored them.

For example those other state laws have been horribly abused. An Associated Press investigation last year found that illegal aliens tried to game the system to obtain a license. In one instance, 48 foreign-born individuals claimed to live at a smoke shop in Albuquerque to fulfill a residency condition. Authorities also busted a fraud ring last year that forged documents for illegal immigrants to use after driving from as far as Illinois and North Carolina to obtain a New Mexico license.

That is why Republican Gov. Susana Martinez has tried repeatedly for years to repeal the decade-old measure - but the Democrat Legislature has rejected such efforts.

Utah's requirements were originally lax, but they amended the law  in 2011 to require illegal immigrants to be fingerprinted, and mandates that the state notify I.C.E. if an applicant's fingerprint check yields a felony on record. If the applicant has a misdemeanor warrant outstanding, the state must notify the agency that is seeking the person's arrest.

And even in Illinois, local law enforcement officials pleaded in vain with legislators in favor of fingerprinting: "We could see if they have committed a crime; it could be a crime in another state or it could be a crime in their home country," said John Kennedy, executive director of the Illinois Association of Chiefs of Police.

The law is also a threat to national security. One of the reasons they implemented the Federal REAL ID law and proof of citizenship into state IDs and licenses was in response to how easy Mohamed Atta and his crew obtained IDs, accessed flight schools and all the other blatant preparations they made. It is now harder for a born or naturalized citizen to get a license than it is for a terrorist masquerading as am illegal from central America.

But for amnesty advocates, any possibility of an illegal alien being detained or deported is not worth the risk of safeguards to protect the public from identity thieves, felons, gangbangers or terrorists. This is what it has come to in Obama's dangerous immigration anarchy.

Finally, the Illinois law was sold to gullible Republicans promising that uninsured illegal aliens would obtain auto insurance en masse, improving public safety and driver accountability:


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; illegals; illinois

1 posted on 01/27/2013 9:14:18 PM PST by montag813
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To: montag813

Right down the pooper. That’s our destination.

2 posted on 01/27/2013 9:18:10 PM PST by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: montag813

Well there you have it.

No other state nor entity that requires a valid photo ID should honor IL driver’s licenses. They’re not worth the plastic they’re printed on.

More massive fraud from Chicago.

3 posted on 01/27/2013 9:24:05 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month)
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To: montag813

I’m sure all these people have full coverage insurance and can read and understand all the road signs. Their having a license should certainly make everyone there feel a whole lot safer.

4 posted on 01/27/2013 9:37:40 PM PST by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: montag813

Does this mean I can now get a spare if I learn to speak Spanish?

5 posted on 01/27/2013 9:41:28 PM PST by MetaThought
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To: Grams A

You’ve hit one of the key issues in this disaster, auto insurance/liablity. What criteria do the issuing companies have for one being a US citizen in order to get insurance?

Does applying for insurance and not being a legal US citizen make the insurance policy null and void?

Will an insurance company have to pay off on an accident caused by an illegal with an Illinois driver’s license? What happens if the illegal flees the state or country after having caused an accident or killing someone?


If the insurance companies say “NO” to providing such coverage to illegals, they might turn the Illinois driver’s licence law on its head.

Now leftwing companies like PROGRESSIVE and GEICO might issue such policies, but what if the victims of illegal driver’s who have caused accidents sue these companies for criminally negligent behavior in issuing these policies in the first place, knowing that the buyer is an illegal?

The thoughts of tort actions here make me wish I was a slip and fall lawyer. I’d be rich beyond my wildest dreams suing the state, the driver, and the insurance companies.


Meanwhile, more decent people in Illinois will be killed by the illegals. Anyone on the left want to dispute this?

If so, I hope an illegal kills one of your family, as one nearly did to mine.

6 posted on 01/27/2013 11:26:30 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: montag813

It is treason end of story and in a just world, any politician signing off on this should be executed for the crime.

Some might think it extreme, I honestly believe at some level there must be a conspiracy to bring the US and the western civilized world to its knees for reasons unknown. How else can this be explained? Allowing illegals to drain public services, to vote, to have ALL the rights of citizens without exception, why they should be rounded up and thrown back where they came from.

I normally don’t take the ‘one world government’ conspiracy theories seriously, but I can’t see any other plausible explanation.

Diluting the most powerful advanced civilisations in human history with those who offer it nothing, not even by accident but by purpose? What other means to an end could that possibly be for?

7 posted on 01/28/2013 12:47:29 AM PST by UKrepublican
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To: montag813

Thousands of new illegals will be voting democRAT in the next elections.

8 posted on 01/28/2013 1:23:37 AM PST by beelzepug (Telling other people they need to die is a good way to get your own lamp blown out.)
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To: montag813

And in other news, thousands of new illegals will be voting democRAT in the next elections.

9 posted on 01/28/2013 1:24:29 AM PST by beelzepug (Telling other people they need to die is a good way to get your own lamp blown out.)
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Nice for airline security too.

10 posted on 01/28/2013 2:40:23 AM PST by Kozak (The Republic is dead. I do not owe what we have any loyalty, wealth or sympathy.)
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

In Texas you have to show proof of insurance when you renew your tags and have your vehicle inspected but lots of people just let their insurance lapse right after that and then don’t get new insurance until the next year rolls around. From the looks of some cars that have current stickers, also suspect there are places you can get your stickers without your car passing inspection. Police used to take cars off the street if the inspection, tags and insurance weren’t current but they can’t do that any more.

11 posted on 01/28/2013 3:57:41 AM PST by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: montag813

What Illinois Republicans? They’re all just “conservative” Democrats.

12 posted on 01/28/2013 4:20:22 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: andyk
Connecticut will be right behind Illinois all in the same flush. So basically this makes our licenses worthless. It will be OK once they give away amnesty and we won't need licenses.
13 posted on 01/28/2013 4:43:17 AM PST by cameraeye (A happy kuffir!)
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To: MetaThought

You won’t need id, so why not! n/s

14 posted on 01/28/2013 4:45:03 AM PST by cameraeye (A happy kuffir!)
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To: montag813

The reason is very simple. Illinois is a motor voter law state. So all illegal aliens with a drivers license can vote ... Democratic!!

15 posted on 01/28/2013 5:19:09 AM PST by Col. Bob (To give in is to commit national suicide)
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