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Koppel, Woodward on Obama-Clinton Foreign Policy: World in Meltdown; U.S. in Most Dangerous Period
Sunday, January 27, 2013 | Kristinn

Posted on 01/27/2013 5:22:31 PM PST by kristinn

Last week on Meet the Press, it was NBC News' Chief Foreign Correspondent Richard Engel slamming the Obama administration's "diminished",foreign policy influence around the globe.

Today on Meet the Press, two veteran Washington newsmen, The Washington Post's Bob Woodward and former ABC, now NBC News correspondent Ted Koppel, matter of factly described the present foreign policy environment as being in "meltdown" and entering "one of the most dangerous" periods in U.S. history. Their remarks were made without directly blaming President Barack Obama and outgoing Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, but they were made in response to a question pointing out Obama's neglect of foreign policy in his second inaugural address last Monday.

Host David Gregory opened the segment with a clip of Clinton's 'what difference does it make' outburst at the Senate Benghazi hearing last week. Gregory went on to ask Koppel:

(Transcription by Kristinn Taylor)

"Wider than just the Benghazi investigation and the questions are about a region that's in ferment, in revolution in certain parts where there are a lot of threats facing the United States. And it's not getting a lot of attention thus far from the administration, certainly from the president's inaugural address. And there are real fears in the region that Iran particularly is gonna be on the edge of causing problems for the United States."

Koppel: "I think David as I suggested before that we're entering one of the most dangerous periods this country has ever known. A--it's not over in Afghanistan. B--to the degree that al Qaeda has moved over in to Pakistan. That's a country that has over a hundred nuclear weapons. Syria which is an ongoing problem. The suggestion constantly seems to be that we need to come in on the side of the rebels. There are at least a thousand al Qaeda members in Syria today fighting on the side of the rebels. If the chemical weapons fall in to their hands, big problems. You mentioned Iran. Remember now, it may even have been on this program I think that Bibi Netanyahu the Israeli prime minister suggested that come Spring come early Summer if the Iranians still have not pulled back from building a nuclear weapon the Israelis may attack. The Iranians would respond against the United States and they have the capacity to do it with cyber war."

Woodward: "I think it's even bigger and more troubling than that. It isn't just the Middle East and that region. Look at North Korea announcing that they are gonna target the United States. They have nuclear weapons--unlike Iran at this point. You look at what happened in Algeria and Mali. The Egypt problem is not solved.

"I actually had one the experts tell me recently that the next book I ought to do is this whole sweep of foreign policy and the working title of the book would be, "Meltdown"."

Gregory turns to Andrea Mitchell to save Hillary Clinton's reputation as if this "meltdown" hasn't happened on her watch.

Gregory: "And Andrea I want you to respond to something. Hillary Clinton, when she was not talking about Benghazi, issued a warning for her successor. Which I gather she also wanted to make sure was heard inside the White House when she talked about the region in this case, North Africa, the al Qaeda presence, bigger than Benghazi. This is what she said."

Clinton: "Let me underscore the importance of the United States continuing to lead in the Middle East, in North Africa and around the world. When America is absent, especially from unstable environments, there are consequences. Extremism takes root, our interests suffer our security at home is threatened."

Mitchell: "I think she is trying to warn the administration and the world that we cannot retreat from this engagement here. And right now over night we've seen that the US is doing refueling of French fighters in Mali which is very troublesome to some it is a much more aggressive posture. But, the UK has taken all of their nationals out of Somalia overnight. This area of North Africa, as Bob and Ted were just saying is the most dangerous perhaps in the world aside from Pakistan and Afghanistan which are nuclear armed against each other--and oh, Pakistan and India are nuclear armed against each other. And what's happening in Afghanistan as we retreat and the effect on that, and North Korea. So they have to really not just look at immigration and guns and the budget as the next challenges."

Also on the panel were the Heritage Foundation's Jim Demint and the NAACP's Ben Jealous. They were brought in to the conversation at this point. Click this link to view the entire Meet the Press panel discussion segment titled "Panel recaps turmoil in the Middle East."


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: foreignpolicy; hillaryclinton; meetthepress; meltdown; obama; obamaforeignpolicy; tedkoppel

1 posted on 01/27/2013 5:22:42 PM PST by kristinn
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To: kristinn

And, it is their lord and savior that has made it more perilous by creating dangerous, Islamist regimes.


2 posted on 01/27/2013 5:28:42 PM PST by Buddy Sorrell ( John Boehner is our Pierre Laval. We need a Charles DeGaulle.)
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To: kristinn

MITCHELL: “And what’s happening in Afghanistan as we retreat and the effect on that, and North Korea.”

I bet Andrea would like to have that sentence back.


3 posted on 01/27/2013 5:29:22 PM PST by SaxxonWoods (....Let It Burn....)
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To: kristinn

Admiring Obama’s work.


4 posted on 01/27/2013 5:30:22 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: kristinn

“I actually had one the experts tell me recently that the next book I ought to do is this whole sweep of foreign policy and the working title of the book would be, “Meltdown”.”

Kristinn:

Thanks for taking the time to put up this amazing display of post-election honesty on the MSM. They can afford to be honest for a moment now that Barry is safely reelected.

I was watching Up With Chris Hayes on MSNBC this AM and several far left commentators slammed Hillary as being mostly involved with “hugging” struggling folks around the planet and totally walled off from serious foreign policy direction. That direction came only out of the White House or from special envoys who took away from Hillary any responsibility for Israel/Palestine, Aghanistan, Pakistan or any other area that would hurt her in 2016 if anything went bad.


5 posted on 01/27/2013 5:33:27 PM PST by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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To: kristinn

Didn’t even mention China and Japan. Or the real enemy, the Republicans.


6 posted on 01/27/2013 5:33:55 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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7 posted on 01/27/2013 5:34:29 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: kristinn
I was in Manhattan last night to catch the B'way show, "Jersey Boys" and who should come strutting down the aisle at intermission, but that has-been news-reader, Sam Donaldson.

Remembering him as the egotist he is, I loudly turned to my wife within earshot of him and said "Reagan was 10 times the man that yipping press corps Chihuahua will ever be."

He turned to look where the barb came from. I made eye contact - and glowerrd -- uncertain, he dared not get into it ...

Somewhat gratifying, I suppose. I figured the guy never heard me swearing at him as I watched him on TV in Reagan's press conferences back in the '80's.

I'd like to think he finally heard me last night for the first time....

Was tempted to make a snarky comment about his recent DWI in DE, but I refrained.

FReegards!


8 posted on 01/27/2013 5:39:34 PM PST by Agamemnon (Darwinism is the glue that holds liberalism together)
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To: kristinn

Meanwhile, CBS, acting at the request of the Obama Ministry of Propaganda, produces an interview with the two fools responsible for our foreign policy failures, Obama and Clinton.

CBS is another arm of the Democratic Party.


9 posted on 01/27/2013 5:43:17 PM PST by popdonnelly
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To: kristinn
No Bob, your next book should be titled Betrayal.
10 posted on 01/27/2013 5:45:46 PM PST by gusopol3
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To: Seizethecarp

I had no idea we had a foreign policy. I thought Obama ran it out of his back pocket. I suppose he believes his charisma will simply make other nations and leaders do what he wishes. It must be a terrible burden to be that “special”.


11 posted on 01/27/2013 5:46:07 PM PST by popdonnelly
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To: kristinn

IOW, without directly mentioning zero by name, appeasing thugs and dictators, bowing down to Islamist hate-mongers and making the US substantially weaker than ever isn’t paying off too well for “The Won”.

There is a more obvious example of zero’s poor foreign relations program - notice that virtually no foreign leaders seek him out for counsel and support. Early in his first term, our staunch alies came by to see and be seen with him, only to be treated only slightly better than the dirt on the WH doormat. With those insults delivered, they haven’t come back.

For good reason. Zero has not bothered to hide the fact that he has been courting the leaders of countries that hate us and would love to see America gone. The same as zero. But, the downside is that we have less than zero influence in the rest of the world because they know how weak we are.

Thanks, Obama. Thanks for making the world much more dangerous than it was 4 years ago.


12 posted on 01/27/2013 5:51:15 PM PST by DustyMoment (Congress - another name for anti-American criminals!!)
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To: kristinn
It's gonna take a lot more to get me to actually watch meet the press. These monsters would rather shed their skins in a thirty-minute piss shiver than mention the Executive Branch and its responsibility for the wretched state of American foreign policy.

Sorry, Madam Secretary, but you can't just toss off your connection with this president, or the fact that you were Secretary of State during these bleak years.

Ask not for whom the bell tolls...

13 posted on 01/27/2013 5:53:32 PM PST by Prospero (Si Deus trucido mihi, ego etiam fides Deus.)
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To: kristinn

So much to hate about these stupid liberals and so little time left, thanks to them.


14 posted on 01/27/2013 5:55:35 PM PST by Bullish (This usurper is leaving one hell of a poop stain on our Constitution)
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To: kristinn; All

15 posted on 01/27/2013 6:01:28 PM PST by Hotlanta Mike ("Governing a great natiorn is like cooking a small fish - too much handling will spoil it." Lao Tzu)
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To: kristinn
A lot of people are citing the Arab Spring as Obama's creation.
I think that the Arab Spring was actually Bush's plan to establish democracies in the middle east and therefore get rid of the terrorists cults. Unfortunately, Bush's term ended before he was able to establish a working democracy in the middle east to serve as a model for the other states.

Then along came the amateur and a contagion of flawed rebellions engulfed the middle east. So now Obama is the father of the Arab Maelstrom that is resulting from his mishandling of events.

16 posted on 01/27/2013 6:06:09 PM PST by oldbrowser (They are marxists, don't call them democrats)
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To: Agamemnon

hahahahaha love it


17 posted on 01/27/2013 6:11:14 PM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: oldbrowser
Unfortunately, Bush's term ended before he was able his attempts to establish a working democracy in the middle east to serve as a model for the other states... were exposed as utter folly.
18 posted on 01/27/2013 6:14:26 PM PST by Trailerpark Badass (So?)
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To: kristinn

Obama got the Peace Prize and some want to give one to Hillary.

The world has gone crazy.


19 posted on 01/27/2013 6:14:41 PM PST by Venturer
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To: Venturer

The Nobel Peace Prize is meaningless.

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20 posted on 01/27/2013 6:16:54 PM PST by Mears
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To: kristinn

Let history record that, as he stumbled across the world stage, Barack Obama did more to enable Islam and disable America than any other despot since the founding of our nation.


21 posted on 01/27/2013 6:20:08 PM PST by csmusaret (I will give Obama credit for one thing- he is living proof that familiarity breeds contempt.)
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To: kristinn

I predict Obama will not be reelected.


22 posted on 01/27/2013 6:23:43 PM PST by truth_seeker
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To: popdonnelly
It must be a terrible burden to be that “special”.

Not at all, I'm sure ...

... a terrible FATE, maybe.

23 posted on 01/27/2013 6:28:59 PM PST by dr_lew
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To: kristinn

bump


24 posted on 01/27/2013 6:31:13 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: Agamemnon

Good for you.

And how was Jersey Boys? I’m dying to see it, but no one will go with me.


25 posted on 01/27/2013 6:34:36 PM PST by jocon307
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To: Mears
The Nobel Peace Prize is meaningless.

Nobel Piece of Shit Prize.
26 posted on 01/27/2013 6:35:04 PM PST by crosshairs (All we are saying, is give a high cap piece a chance.)
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To: kristinn

These problems have been obvious for a long time. Too bad it’s all Bush’s fault. /s


27 posted on 01/27/2013 6:41:57 PM PST by Richard from IL
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To: Trailerpark Badass
Unfortunately, Bush's term ended before his attempts to establish a working democracy in the middle east to serve as a model for the other states... were exposed as utter folly.

Democracies are successful in cultures that not mixed racially, such as Japan, or where there is a history of democratic government.

The middle east will never have a successful democracy.

28 posted on 01/27/2013 6:42:43 PM PST by caltaxed
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To: Buddy Sorrell

“And, it is their lord and savior that has made it more perilous by creating dangerous, Islamist regimes.”

Maybe if these shams had outed the worthless bastard when he first reared his ugly head, they wouldn’t have to be making such morose statements. Stupid is as stupid does.


29 posted on 01/27/2013 6:42:54 PM PST by jivin gene (Breakin' up is hard to do)
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To: Trailerpark Badass
Unfortunately, Bush's term ended before his attempts to establish a working democracy in the middle east to serve as a model for the other states... were exposed as utter folly.

Democracies are successful in cultures that not mixed racially, such as Japan, or where there is a history of democratic government.

The middle east will never see a successful democracy outside of Israel.

30 posted on 01/27/2013 6:43:31 PM PST by caltaxed
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To: caltaxed

The middle east will never have a successful democracy.
***Israel is a successful democracy.


31 posted on 01/27/2013 6:51:28 PM PST by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: Mears

It is Mears, but not to the uneducated, low info idiot voters! To them, it means everything.


32 posted on 01/27/2013 7:01:47 PM PST by AllAmericanGirl44 (Fluck this adminstration of misfits.)
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To: Agamemnon

Sweetness!!!


33 posted on 01/27/2013 7:02:06 PM PST by FamiliarFace
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To: kristinn

Look, the Prince and Princess of America have destabilized the Middle East and North Africa while the Perfumed Princes at the Pentagon did their best shuffle answering yassiree to every idiotic order and suggestion by CIC Rambama. Lots more Americans will die because of the disaster that these dipshits have wrought.


34 posted on 01/27/2013 7:11:37 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: Seizethecarp
The Washington Post's Bob Woodward and former ABC, now NBC News correspondent Ted Koppel, matter of factly described the present foreign policy environment as being in "meltdown" and entering "one of the most dangerous" periods in U.S. history.

I think this means the brain dead Nobel Committee will be giving Hillary the Peace Prize...

35 posted on 01/27/2013 7:28:37 PM PST by GOPJ ( Do murder laws control murders?..freeper Red Badger Let's try Criminal control - Fr:MadMax)
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To: GOPJ

the “Nobel Committee will be giving Hillary the Nobel Peace
Prize”-——
as was the case with Obama, he was given the Prize because of his presumed “good intentions”, not because of anything he even had a workable plan to do—the skewed logic behind it was the self-congratulatory conceit of the Committee as being able to award a prophetic “Leader” that only they had to foresight to identify. With Hillary, if she gets the Prize, it will be because they’ve started to identify failure with success:exactly as with ALL of Obama’s domestic policies, the demonstrable failure can be seen in virtually ALL the statistics of an increasingly hopeless economy, which only goes to PROVE, in their eyes, that it was that way all along, before they had the enormous task of setting it on the right course. This Administration will NEVER take ownership of ANYTHING they’ve created, because NONE of it is working or helping anybody: that, in a nutshell, is what was behind their four year mantra of “It’s Bush’s fault”.


36 posted on 01/27/2013 8:38:19 PM PST by supremedoctrine
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To: Agamemnon

What a joyous evening that must have been! I am happy for you and so glad that you got to say something like that to that freakish lizard faced has been.


37 posted on 01/27/2013 9:27:21 PM PST by Colorado Doug (Now I know how the Indians felt to be sold out for a few beads and trinkets)
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To: kristinn

Woodward / Compost bump for later....


38 posted on 01/27/2013 9:40:21 PM PST by indthkr
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To: kristinn
the questions are about a region that's in ferment

Is David Gregory implying that as a result of the Arab Spring, they are starting to brew up alcohol?

Maybe if they start drinking, it will calm them down a little bit. At least being buzzed, sobering up, sleeping it off and nursing a hangover will use up a lot of that spare time they seem to have on their hands.

Or am I reading too much into this?

39 posted on 01/27/2013 9:48:59 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month)
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To: popdonnelly
I thought Obama ran it out of his back pocket.

Actually he's not pulling foreign policy out of his back pocket, but he is pulling it out of somewhere that is very close to his back pocket.

40 posted on 01/27/2013 9:53:36 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month)
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To: DustyMoment
"Thanks, Obama. Thanks for making the world much more dangerous than it was 4 years ago."

The product of moral relativism - the poor are made to appear rich by making the rich poorer and the weak are made to appear strong by making the strong weak.

41 posted on 01/28/2013 6:06:02 AM PST by uncommonsense (Conservatives believe what they see; Liberals see what they believe.)
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To: supremedoctrine
The Supreme Doctrine by Hubert Benoit. Read it, then we can talk. My current tagline is taken from the great Nabokov's book PALE FIRE.

Looks like I've got some books to order from Amazon...

42 posted on 01/28/2013 11:27:54 AM PST by GOPJ ( Do murder laws control murders?..freeper Red Badger Let's try Criminal control - Fr:MadMax)
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To: jocon307
The show was great, and well worth it. Great storyline and great music interspersed.

Clever dialog, great singing and the guy who plays Frankie Valli does as masterful vocal imitation.

Find yourself a nice Jersey Boy to take you, do dinner at Nocello's on 55th before the show and you'll have a rewarding night!

I'll give ol' uni-brow Sam a call, tell him I found his toupee sitting affixed to the toilet scrubber in the men's room, have him show up again to claim it and then you can have at him too!

FReegards!


43 posted on 01/28/2013 12:20:33 PM PST by Agamemnon (Darwinism is the glue that holds liberalism together)
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To: Agamemnon

LOL, thanks for your reply! I look forward to it!


44 posted on 01/29/2013 8:18:03 PM PST by jocon307
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