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Second Amendment Ratified to Preserve Slavery (barf-up both lungs alert)
Truth-out ^ | 1/26/13 | Hartmann

Posted on 01/26/2013 11:35:46 AM PST by pabianice

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To: pabianice

Most of the comments about this piece of garbage are totally negative, except for a couple from commies and race-baiters. One race hustler actually equates having to work for a living with slavery.


21 posted on 01/26/2013 12:42:02 PM PST by ozzymandus
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To: G Larry
Not only does it not help, it's identical to the argument used by Leftists: Some black people commit murders, therefore, it's justified to deprive all blacks of their rights.

Nope.

The right to defend yourself personally and collectively is one of the fundamental rights of man. Law-abiding people have a right to it regardless of race, creed, color, previous condition of servitude, or crime statistics.

22 posted on 01/26/2013 12:43:25 PM PST by FredZarguna (And it's a felony beef.)
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To: pabianice

We’re all slaves..wage slaves, nanny-state slaves, healthcare slaves.

Regardless the article, we still need the 2nd to keep from becoming chained/beaten slaves..


23 posted on 01/26/2013 12:43:25 PM PST by WCH
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To: pabianice

It doesn’t matter why the Second Amendmendment was passed into the Constitution. The fact is that IT IS in the constitution. Without a 3/4 majority of BOTH houses and a 3/4 majority of ALL the states legislatures, it is THE LAW of the land and that means. The right to bear arms SHALL not be infringed.


24 posted on 01/26/2013 12:49:56 PM PST by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: x
The Pennsylvania Constitution of 1776 has an RKBA provision which is actually stronger than the 2nd Amendment and predates its ratification by 13 years. I have a comment on that along your lines in post #20 on this thread.
25 posted on 01/26/2013 12:53:42 PM PST by FredZarguna (The PA RKBA doesn't mention "militia" at all.)
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To: pabianice

This is fiction for dummies. Hard to believe that anyone would buy ibto this dreck.


26 posted on 01/26/2013 1:08:25 PM PST by buffaloguy
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To: WCH

I am not sure what a “wage slave” is, unless that means a hired worker whose job and life has been so nosed into by a nanny, taxing government (and by union bullies who have gone way beyond their legitimate function) that his or her job becomes near unprofitable. Please, Massa, make me a wage slave, it beats the hell out of being unemployed... unless I can start my own business, but then I become a sales slave....


27 posted on 01/26/2013 1:13:48 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: ozzymandus

“One race hustler actually equates having to work for a living with slavery.”

Sounds like a guy I once had on my crew.

If a black man sweat on the job “Dat be slabery”.

Yes I fired him, and I enjoyed doing it.


28 posted on 01/26/2013 1:20:07 PM PST by IMR 4350
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To: G Larry

Facts are facts. Truth is what it is, I only point it out. I notice that my original post was deleted. I guess some can’t handle the truth.


29 posted on 01/26/2013 1:35:27 PM PST by yadent
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To: Chode

30 posted on 01/26/2013 1:36:48 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: G Larry
Here it is, I think from the third paragraph of the post:

"As Dr. Carl T. Bogus wrote for the University of California Law Review in 1998, "The Georgia statutes required patrols, under the direction of commissioned militia officers, to examine every plantation each month and authorized them to search 'all Negro Houses for offensive Weapons and Ammunition' ...

31 posted on 01/26/2013 1:41:33 PM PST by tsomer
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To: Travis McGee

Seems funny the liberals do all they can to tread on and insult white folks (the white redneck is the n-gger of today, and redneck-like nonwhite folks are the Uncle Toms and Aunt Thomasinas) — then get all bent out of shape when said white folks get irritated.

Didn’t their mamas teach them what happens when you throw sticks at a dog?


32 posted on 01/26/2013 1:50:56 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: tsomer

Uh huh you silly liberals. This is as transparent as Scotch tape. Arms bans KEPT THE BLACK MAN DOWN! And well after they became freedmen.


33 posted on 01/26/2013 1:52:34 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: pabianice
The 2nd amendment does not GIVE you the right to bear arms – It PROTECTS your right to bear arms.

This subtle difference is important because it establishes that the right to bear arms is a pre-existing, long-established natural right and is as legally defensible as a person's right to life.

In short, the Government does not give you this right. Instead, the 2nd amendment affirms that the Government shall not infringe upon this right.

An often made argument that the 2nd Amendment is invalid because it was written before the invention of modern automatic firearms is flawed. Because the same situation is true of the 1st Amendment, which protects freedom of the press. The 1st Amendment also was written long before the development of modern technologies like cable news, the internet or social media like Facebook and Twitter.

Another widely held, but incorrect claim is that 2nd Amendment meant only a "Well established militia". Legal experts know, that as recently as 2008, the Supreme Court ruled that the Second Amendment protects an individual's right to possess a firearm, unconnected to service in a militia and to use that arm for traditionally lawful purposes, such as self-defense within the home within many longstanding prohibitions and restrictions on firearms possession listed by the Court as being consistent with the Second Amendment. And in the year 2010, the Supreme Court ruled that the 2nd Amendment limits state and local governments to the same extent that it limits the federal government.

34 posted on 01/26/2013 2:27:14 PM PST by vortigern
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To: FredZarguna
Facts can be pesky things. Except to liberals...

Teddy Roosevelt put it well when he said if you want to piss off a Conservative tell him a lie; if you want to piss off a Liberal tell him a truth.

Teddy Roosevelt didn't say those exact words but you get the picture. Teddy actually said "If you want to make a Conservative mad tell him a lie, if you want to make a liberal mad tell him the truth."

35 posted on 01/26/2013 2:34:45 PM PST by MosesKnows
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To: yadent

Make no difference if you’ve already closed off your intended audience.

If you don’t learn how to delivery the message, you will forever be noisy gong.

Are you here to persuade or annoy?


36 posted on 01/26/2013 2:49:49 PM PST by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Close enough.

http://www.wisebread.com/how-to-not-be-a-wage-slave


37 posted on 01/26/2013 2:58:39 PM PST by WCH
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To: G Larry

Facts and truth are what they are. One can sugar-coat the message, disguise it, or present/dumb it down in a ‘moderate’ way so as not to ‘offend’. I want to educate, present information as it is in it’s reality. If facts and the truth annoy some, so be it. As one who worked for gooberment for 25 years....lets just say I don’t/won’t tolerate BS any longer. From either side.


38 posted on 01/26/2013 3:30:38 PM PST by yadent
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To: pabianice
In the South, they were also called the "slave patrols"

Your navy buddy is a low-info American or brain damaged. Or both. I couldn't read past that juvenile phrase. I really don't care what someone may have called it 200 years ago. Idiots and morons say all sorts of things today, just like the same class of morons did 200 years ago.
It's meaningless.

I do know that there are no longer slaves (aside from the working non-government taxpayers,) nor anything resembling "slave patrols."
I expect that sort of historical distortions from the Soros-Obama regime, the same wannabe tyrants who conjure up ideas and imaginary grievances not to inform, but to inflame. To energize the "new" KKK running rampant through all our big cities, and, unfamiliar with the concept of restraint, converting rights into "crimes," and crimes into "rights."

Low information "voters" get all the publicity and literally nothing is too absurd to utter on national television, like that ignorant, stupid black woman with a mind like cement who is certain that George W. ran up a greater National Debt increase in 8 years, than Obama has is 4.

GWB may have done or allowed plenty of nasty things to happen with horrible long term consequences, but that particular one is not one of them.

39 posted on 01/26/2013 3:34:56 PM PST by publius911 (Look for the Union Label -- then buy something else)
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To: pabianice

Yeah, I guess that’s why the 2nd amendment has all those words about guns being needed to preserve slavery. (snicker)


40 posted on 01/26/2013 3:35:05 PM PST by driftless2
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