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Ryan blames Republican election loss on poor communication, turnout
reuters ^ | 1/23/13 | Thomas Ferraro

Posted on 01/23/2013 5:25:02 PM PST by Baynative

(Reuters) - Ending a self-imposed silence about the November election, 2012 Republican vice presidential nominee Paul Ryan said on Wednesday that he and presidential running mate Mitt Romney lost not because of ideas, but due to ineffective communication.

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KEYWORDS: election; idiocy; idiots; lunacy; paulryan; republicans; romney; ryan; stupidparty
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Ineffective communication is part of it - that would be the Milquetoast approach provided by the RINO consultants who get paid tens of millions to lose election after election.
1 posted on 01/23/2013 5:25:10 PM PST by Baynative
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To: Baynative

Yea, thanks a lot, idiots.


2 posted on 01/23/2013 5:26:55 PM PST by LiveFreeOrDie2001 (Elections have consequences - NOW LOOK what we have to deal with...)
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"While watching Obama take the oath, Ryan said he thought about what he and Romney could have done if they won and implemented their conservative agenda."

AMAZING- What if they had simply talked about a conservative agenda in the campaign and not been shied away from confronting Obama head on?

3 posted on 01/23/2013 5:27:55 PM PST by Baynative (I'm reading a book about anti-gravity. I can't put it down.)
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To: Baynative

I have come to the conclusion that Ryan is phony and ineffectual. He (usually, sort of) talks the right talk but he can’t ever seem to accomplish jack. And he’s pretty eager to climb on the bipartisan bandwagon, once he figures out what it is.

I really don’t care what he thinks any more. He lost my respect and only actions, not words, have any chance of regaining it.


4 posted on 01/23/2013 5:29:54 PM PST by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: Baynative
Ummmmmmmmmm.

Romney and Ryan got MUCH better turnout in Wisconsin in November than Scott Walker got in June 2012 in his recall vote victory.

I think that the Obama campaign just had more walking-around money to "spread the wealth" than did the Wisconsin recall forces - and this was true in ALL the swing states.

5 posted on 01/23/2013 5:32:38 PM PST by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: Baynative

It was your RINO running mate, Paul.


6 posted on 01/23/2013 5:35:12 PM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: Baynative

Its better than the idiots who are blaming the consumer for the crappy product.


7 posted on 01/23/2013 5:35:48 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Nervous Tick

I agree. He’s another RINO in conservative clothing.


8 posted on 01/23/2013 5:35:59 PM PST by Fledermaus (The Republic is Dead: Collapse the system. Fire all politicians and impeach the judges.)
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To: Baynative

With the MSM calling the shots, what do you expect?


9 posted on 01/23/2013 5:36:38 PM PST by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: Baynative

They lost because Mr. RomneyCARE did not want to win,
wanted his wife to defend him as HE usually defended Obama,
and because Mr. RomneyCARE was the inventor of ObamaCARE
and the imposer of gay marriage (but pretended he was not).

Also, they lost because Mr. RomneyCARE and Tokyo Rove
attacked every real conservative over and over and
then even would not let the other sides speak at the
convention.

They also lost because when the other side cheated
extensively, Mr. RomneyCARE could not wait to ‘give up’,
so that he and Mr. Rove could split hundreds of millions
of $$$$$ between themselves.

Never forget that Obama is ONLY pRes_ _ent
because Mr. RomneCARE attacked Gov. Palin
on the EVE of election 2008.


10 posted on 01/23/2013 5:37:46 PM PST by Diogenesis (Vi veri veniversum vivus vici)
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To: Baynative

I blame it on GOP impotence, of which Mr Ryan is part.


11 posted on 01/23/2013 5:38:18 PM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Baynative
R&R lost because too many Americans didn't want to give up their government tax payer funded goodies. Most women wanted their free birth control and abortions. Gays wanted their life styles legitimized and their ailments paid for. The unions wanted their man in office to run interference for them as he did during the GM and Chrysler bailouts. And students with tens of thousands of dollars of debt over useless degrees in womyns and gay studies wanted their loans paid for them. In that environment, I doubt even Reagan could have won.

IMHO.

12 posted on 01/23/2013 5:43:32 PM PST by TwelveOfTwenty (Ho, ho, hey, hey, I'm BUYcotting Chick-Fil-A)
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To: Baynative

He lost because Obama can turn out 90% plus in urban America.


13 posted on 01/23/2013 5:45:17 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: kiryandil

Ummmmm, yourself!

Romney, as Republican victor in the primaries, had the opportunity to reach out to the conservatives and bring them into his campaign. Instead, he made it abundantly clear that he wasn’t interested in having them campaign for him.

Big mistake! The conservatives, particularly those with a morally conservaitve agenda, are the footsoldiers who go out into neighborhoods and bring in the votes. Not this time.

Romney shouldn’t have been politically stupid, but there you have it. He should have reached out to his competitors and ASKED for their support, and included Sarah Palin in that as well. It wouldn’t have cost him anything to do that, and because he didn’t, it cost him in the end and he lost the election.


14 posted on 01/23/2013 5:45:49 PM PST by SatinDoll (NATURAL BORN CITZEN: BORN IN THE USA OF CITIZEN PARENTS.)
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To: martin_fierro

“It’s the candidate, stupid.”


15 posted on 01/23/2013 5:46:57 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: Baynative

[Sigh]

Willard RINOmney was the best candidate Obama could have asked for. What a fantastic opponent to use as a punching bag.

He was pushed by the GOPe. He sucked. He still does.

Ryan was steamrolled by Biden.


16 posted on 01/23/2013 5:49:34 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (Gone rogue, gone Galt, gone international. Gone Independent. Gone.)
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To: SatinDoll

How ridiculous... How did he make it clear he wasn’t interested? Because he didn’t send everyone flowers and a card? If so-called conservatives sat on their fat asses and helped this socialist get elected again, then f’m. They deserve to suffer for what they’ve done. I voted for Romney because I knew he was infinitely better than Obama. Not because anyone ASKED for anything. It should have been obvious as all hell.


17 posted on 01/23/2013 5:50:25 PM PST by paul544
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To: Baynative

Pi$$ing-off a sizable portion of your base and daring them to stay home didn’t help either.


18 posted on 01/23/2013 5:51:57 PM PST by Arm_Bears (Ted Kennedy's Oldsmobile has killed more people than my guns.)
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To: kiryandil

kiryandil~:” I think that the Obama campaign just had more walking-around money to “spread the wealth” than did the Wisconsin recall forces - and this was true in ALL the swing states.”

I think you are partially right !
Republicans are communication ineffective :
#1) no Conservative voice on Mainstream television
#1a) Conservative voice is only on the radio -we are preaching to oursleves
#2) they didn’t use cellphones to enliven and jack up the base
#3) The Obama campaign is using their cellphone list, even now , to strengthen their voice on gun control.


19 posted on 01/23/2013 5:53:15 PM PST by Tilted Irish Kilt (Pay attention - the inmates ARE running the asylum!)
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To: Baynative

The loss was in part due to voter fraud here in Florida, Ohio etc. especially by the unions & Democrats. They will win at any cost even if it means the United States becomes a 3rd world country.


20 posted on 01/23/2013 5:53:34 PM PST by jrcats (Going Galt!)
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To: Baynative

Slick Willard was a ringer for Zero.


21 posted on 01/23/2013 5:54:39 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: TwelveOfTwenty
R&R lost because too many Americans didn't want to give up their government tax payer Federal Reserve Monetized Debt funded goodies.
22 posted on 01/23/2013 5:54:47 PM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Baynative

I have never trusted him since he made this vote...
by mistake he says...

http://www.conservativecrusader.com/articles/why-did-rep-paul-ryan-vote-for-destructive-union-giveaway


23 posted on 01/23/2013 5:57:04 PM PST by freedommom
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To: Yo-Yo

Yeah, that too.


24 posted on 01/23/2013 5:57:37 PM PST by TwelveOfTwenty (Ho, ho, hey, hey, I'm BUYcotting Chick-Fil-A)
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To: Baynative
ineffective communication

I thought that for a while. Then, I began to think that maybe they were communicating, but the voters didn't care for the message they were communicating.

Why go for Dem-lite. If that's the direction one wants, why not go for the real thing -- the Dem party.

The Republicans talk about a bigger tent, more inclusive, yada yada yada. All that does is make them more like the Dems.

No. What many voters wanted was a real alternative. And the Dem-lite Party doesn't offer that, even if they call themselves the Republican Party.
25 posted on 01/23/2013 5:57:46 PM PST by TomGuy
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To: Diogenesis

Is there any Republican currently being talked about running that you will support? Those who have been mentioned are Rand Paul, Marco Rubio, Bobby Jindahl, Mike Huckabee, Rick Perry plus probably others.


26 posted on 01/23/2013 5:58:07 PM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Baynative
Where I live, there was NO communication. While the Obama forces were running attack ads against Romney almost non-stop, there were few ads from the Romney camp. And Romney/Ryan spent very little time here, except in the closing days of the campaign. Can't prove it, but I suspect the campaign thought Romney would win with very little effort. It assumed the people, well aware of Obama’s dismal economic record, would elect Romney in a landslide. They underestimated the Obama machine.
27 posted on 01/23/2013 5:58:34 PM PST by fatnotlazy
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To: kiryandil

“I think that the Obama campaign just had more walking-around money to “spread the wealth” than did the Wisconsin recall forces - and this was true in ALL the swing states.”

Don’t forget rampant vote fraud. But, bottom line - it was ours to lose, and enough of our base proved it. Like the fool who thought he didn’t have to look before he stepped off the curb when the light changed. He - and we - are dead right.


28 posted on 01/23/2013 5:59:55 PM PST by jivin gene (Breakin' up is hard to do)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

You didn’t ask me, but the only one I can think of that may give us a chance is Nikki Haley.


29 posted on 01/23/2013 6:00:49 PM PST by TwelveOfTwenty (Ho, ho, hey, hey, I'm BUYcotting Chick-Fil-A)
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To: Baynative

There are so many clues to look at, who was the obvious choice for keynote convention speaker, to heal the party and unite it, and which choice would signal a doubling down by the rinos, that they were in total control of the party, and that the Reagan wing could get lost? So who was not allowed at the convention, and who gave the speech?

Running pro-abortion TV ads was probably a mistake of the same type, as was the presidential candidate sticking to his position of homosexualizing the military and the Boy Scout leaders, and rejecting the party’s pro-life platform on television.


30 posted on 01/23/2013 6:01:21 PM PST by ansel12 (Cruz said "conservatives trust Sarah Palin that if she says this guy is a conservative, that he is")
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To: Baynative


No more RINOs.
31 posted on 01/23/2013 6:01:49 PM PST by jimbo123
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To: Baynative

Well, that’s true. Ryan was this year’s Sarah Palin; the GOP practically dropped a bag over his head and didn’t let him go out in public. Ryan actually had a plan to go and address lower income people (even in black neighborhoods) in the cities and to get the message out in media channels where it might have made a difference, but since Romney had no ideas and was terrified of even being thought to have any ideas other than professing his love and respect for Obama, that came to nothing.


32 posted on 01/23/2013 6:02:34 PM PST by livius
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To: paul544; SatinDoll
How ridiculous... How did he make it clear he wasn’t interested? Because he didn’t send everyone flowers and a card? If so-called conservatives sat on their fat asses and helped this socialist get elected again, then f’m.

Spoken like a true GOP-e puke. Romney made it very clear that the likes of Palin would NOT be allowed to speak at the Convention. Romney and his staff had a very negative view of Conservatives.

I am sick and tired of Freepers who relentlessly attack so called Conservative purists. It's disgusting.

Romney lost the Conservative base because he made it clear he did NOT respect them.

Romney lost because he could never truly internalize or convey a Conservative message. Romney relished destroying all Conservative opponents, but only landed kid gloves on the Marxist.

I reluctantly voted for Romney, but let the arrogant elites know this: Never again will I cast a vote for any RINO type candidate like Romney. I WILL WITHHOLD my vote.

The entire blame for Romney's loss lies solely with the disgusting GOP-e, the likes of Rove, Preibus, D.C beltway pundits, etal.

33 posted on 01/23/2013 6:03:08 PM PST by sand88
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To: jimbo123

BTW, I’m so sick of hearing Rush go on about what a wonderful person, possible saint and fantastic candidate Romney was that I can’t even listen to him any more.

Actually, the day of the election, I thought Rush was going to burst into tears because he had seen Romney on TV and (all choked up) said that he thought he had never seen anybody better looking, more honorable, more American and with a better looking family in his entire life. I don’t know what came over Rush, but I sure didn’t share it!

I think Rush did the entire GOP a disservice in cutting down some of the other candidates and coming out to fall at the feet of Romney. He still seems to adore him.


34 posted on 01/23/2013 6:07:25 PM PST by livius
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To: Baynative

Well.. also contributing to that was a decidedly leftward drift across the political center. America isn`t a center-right country anymore.


35 posted on 01/23/2013 6:12:58 PM PST by ScottinVA (More dizzying than a Tilt-a-Whirl is an around-a-circle argument with a liberal about gun control.)
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To: Baynative

Yes, you both missed the Conservative message.


36 posted on 01/23/2013 6:12:58 PM PST by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: Baynative
Perhaps Ryan and Romney could have organized state rallies where they appeared with the local Senate candidates, too? Extend a little coattail to try to win back the upper chamber?

-PJ

37 posted on 01/23/2013 6:14:16 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: Baynative

Well.. also contributing to that was a decidedly leftward drift across the political center. America isn`t a center-right country anymore.


38 posted on 01/23/2013 6:14:27 PM PST by ScottinVA (More dizzying than a Tilt-a-Whirl is an around-a-circle argument with a liberal about gun control.)
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To: SatinDoll
Thank you Satin Doll. All well written.

He should have reached out to his competitors and ASKED for their support, and included Sarah Palin in that as well.

39 posted on 01/23/2013 6:14:50 PM PST by tommix2 (,)
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To: Baynative

The problem was Romney. Period.


40 posted on 01/23/2013 6:18:28 PM PST by RIghtwardHo
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To: Baynative; a fool in paradise

Wait a minute, did Ryan run for Veep and his Congressional seat as well? ‘Coz I thought he’d be out of Congress now?


41 posted on 01/23/2013 6:21:38 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Nervous Tick

Agreed. Chattering little insider who is supposed to hold the key to solving all our fiscal problems.

But I haven’t anything resembling a detail out of him, since he first surfaced long before the election through the present.

If he plan is so damn good why isn’t he talking about it to this day? Romney isn’t stopping him. Who’s stopping him? Where is his support? What’s his plan?


42 posted on 01/23/2013 6:22:36 PM PST by Fightin Whitey
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To: Baynative

Ryan is the one person last election who was worth running.

Romney tried, but he faced an uphill battle from the very first day.

Ryan needs now, to become our spokesman. Rebuild the GOP with Ryan for now, and whoever else comes along as we go.

Go Ryan!


43 posted on 01/23/2013 6:25:01 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: Baynative

Wait for me, I have my own original theory of why Romney lost, and I too know for certain that I’m right and everybody else is wrong!


44 posted on 01/23/2013 6:26:16 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
Willard RINOmney was the best candidate Obama could have asked forThat is why the democrats wanted the Republicans to nominate Romney .Romney was chosen by the democrats.
45 posted on 01/23/2013 6:28:49 PM PST by tommix2 (,)
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To: Baynative

Ryan: “We have to do a better job of explaining and demonstrating why our ideas are better on such issues as fighting poverty and helping people move up “the ladder of life.””

- - - - - -

I’m so sick of listing all the things the Romney Team missed, but if Paul Ryan thinks this is all, I hope he doesn’t run.


46 posted on 01/23/2013 6:29:34 PM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: Baynative

Sorry Paul losing is bound to happens when you run a Liberal Republican against a flaming Marxists from Chicago, McCain Part 2.


47 posted on 01/23/2013 6:30:26 PM PST by Trueblackman (As a Conservative, I am proud to be on the Obama's enemy list and on the right side of history..)
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To: Diogenesis

The GOP p*ssed on conservatives; so they stayed home or voted for someone else...wonder how many write-ins Palin received?


48 posted on 01/23/2013 6:32:47 PM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: Diogenesis

The GOP p*ssed on conservatives; so they stayed home or voted for someone else...wonder how many write-ins Palin received?


49 posted on 01/23/2013 6:33:01 PM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: tommix2
Romney was chosen by the democrats.

Indeed...dems supported Romney wherever an open primary was available to them.

50 posted on 01/23/2013 6:34:50 PM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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