Skip to comments.Top psychiatrist: Meds behind school massacres
Posted on 01/23/2013 2:45:57 AM PST by cricket
Interesting article and conclusions per 'chicken/egg' antidote/warning from London based, Dr.David Healy:
[I predict then the outcome of more school screenings for mental illness will be more mass killings, even if the guns are taken away and the mass killings are not done with guns.]
(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...
I saw an article last week that said that SSRIs and atypical antipsychotic drugs can be useful, but that so far that usefulness had only been demonstrated in cases of severe depression.
Obvious conclusion: they are being vastly overprescribed.
They are often prescribed for "off-label" uses, as (to cite one example I recall from the article) for cases of Tourette's syndrome.
Anecdotal reports have suggested that selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors (SSRIs) may cause suicidal or violent behavior in some patients. Because of the publicity surrounding certain events, and the numerous lawsuits that have been filed, a review of benefits and risks is needed.
At most 30% of patients receive a benefit from SSRIs beyond the large placebo effect in certain mental conditions, especially depression, according to a recent meta-analysis of published trials. An equally recent meta-analysis of all SSRI trials submitted to the FDA showed a small benefit for the severely depressed patients only. Many early unpublished trials did not show any benefit. Adverse effects are common, occurring in up to 75% of subjects.
I took Ritalin in college, not because I needed it, but because it helped me study and pull all nighters. All I did was ask a doctor for it and he perscribed it no problem. The stuff puts you in a surreal, zombie like state where you almost feel out of body. Very similar to the high achieved snorting cocaine (yes, I have tried it). This was me, fully grown... I can’t imagine a child taking it, much less every single day.
Of course it is true. They claim you have some kind of chemical imbalance, which the medicine fixes, but how often do they actually drill into your brain to test the chemistry? The only way they can find something that leads to lucidity is through trial and error.
She started becoming agitated and confused after about a month or two. I took her to the Shrink He saw her in that state maybe five minutes and doubled the Zoloft. Before I could get her home she was hallucinating. I took her to the ER at that hospital named after a Saint. They were also supposed to be running a mental health care unit. The attending doctor in the ER refused any and all blood work and treatment and called the State Mobile Crisis Team. As her husband I could not sign for her treatment.
While waiting I made calls to family. When I came back in to the ER to check she was in a exam room unconscious and I could not bring her around. I yelled for the staff and doctor. I told the doctor do something she has a very serious medical history including heart issues. He just stood there. He refused to act.
We loaded her up and went to the big level one hospital across the river. The one ran by the university. They acted fast and got her conscious again but she was not coherent. I said please do blood works and a CAT SCAN or MRI this is not right. I said the other hospital refused. They then balked and said we are calling Mobile Crisis.
I talked to Mobile after this time 12 hours had passed and her Blood Pressure and Pulse were off the charts. They denied the hospitals request for a mental facility transfer.
I got to the hospital and asked to speak to the floor supervisor a RN. Showed her the article and said I'm certain this is it and it can kill her unless we act. I said please call the doctor. She said our doctors came in once a day he will be here in the morning. I said OK these are my orders as her husband and they will be honored. You are not to give her any medications but Ativan without my expressed permission.
The next morning their doctor came in madder than a wet hen and demanded to know why I had refused her his orders. I said doctor please read this. He said that's pure Rubbish. I said OK the doctor you Pharmacology Professor is a liar then? He looked again and recognized the authors name. I said you will not give her any antidepressants. That night she was back to normal. The next morning six days after onset they finally gave her an MRI which revealed two bleeders in her brain one likely caused by the antidepressants.
Serotonin Syndrome is real and the hallucinations of the patients are their reality. Even top doctor of the county health department who at the time was in private practice and was not even consulted in all that time also knows it's real she saw the aftermath and was quite shaken. MY wife still has partial amnesia from it. It is not tin foil antidepressants in some persons can be very dangerous. What is this had been a teenager?
Benzos such as Valium, Ativan, Xanax are the countering medications to stop this reaction. I knew it the doctors did not. They never heard of Serotonin Syndrome.
“...A nation of kids living on the planet Miranda.
Another failed progressive idea.
Is your child a latent Reever?
saw the movie....understand the reference.
I think its dead on accurate myself.
I was on Paxil for two days.
With 7 little words, you have just given away your right to keep and bear arms.
Lord have mercy. What a mess. Thank God that YOU, and not the ignorant doctor, had the decisive power to do what needed to be done. My prayers for your wife’s well-being.
gee I don’t know. Lets just take everyone off their meds and see what happens, shall we?
Surely Cho Loughner Holmes and Lanza could have been managed with better parenting, better teachers, talk therapy, whole diets and more exercise. Oh and more gun control.
Families who live with the mentally ill, or those who have battled clinical depression, bipolar and schizophrenia among others- should be able to tell you about living with an unmedicated person
in the movie, there were no winners (technically).
the crew just stopped the assassin (indirectly).
actual good guy dies.
the “hunt” would continue.
One point of fantasy....getting the “word out” just doesn’t
have the same effect in real life.
...even if you can’t stop the signal......
People like you who abuse ritalin (speed) get high from it
People (yes kids) who need ritalin to manage true ADHD slow down to “normal” when they take it.
So shame on you.
My doctor described the feeling medicated ADHD kids get as becoming addicted - to being normal. Able to sit and think. Able to focus on learning. Able to be accepted and part of a group discussion or sports team.
It sure has changed our son’s life and our entire families’ lives for the better
Just sent this link to a friend of mine who’s son was on meds and in PTSD treatment when a swat team knocked down his door and he ended up in prison.
Too bad the list has not been updated recently. Good stories.
Shame on me? That was 15 years ago, but the experience counts. Have you taken it? I hope your son doesn’t turn into a murdering drone. Ever stop to think of the long-term damage it could be doing. He is basically taking a controlled dose of meth every single day... all because you won’t give him an outlet to release his energy. Shame on you.
More than a few children are in circumstances that demand 'special schools/classes' whatever; but Liberal Judgments/expectations demand and require; that this sick child; have same educational environment as their peers. The parents want 'normal'; when by treatment and drugs; these children are themselves 'not'; and many - by drug inducements/protocols - are becoming 'less normal'; every day.
No matter the problem; or 'culture/social' crisis; Liberals are the First Responders with the remedy. As it is; these same,'politically correct' and so, judgment-impaired Liberals (and in many cases 'valueless'); are the heart of the problem, itself. No question; as to Liberalism's 'chicken/egg' culpability to the many pathetic challenges we are now confronted with. And no question; for every Liberal fix; the problems only get worse.
Doctors need to dig deeper for other causes and give familiy members possible Adverse reaction warnings. Read my post on this thread.
Anyone who can not be trusted to own and bear arms should not be running around loose, whatever the reason.
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