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NBC/WSJ poll: For first time, majority thinks abortion should be legal in all or most cases
Hotair ^ | 01/22/2013 | AllahPundit

Posted on 01/22/2013 8:23:39 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 01/22/2013 8:23:47 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Public school products.

I am a stranger in a strange land.


2 posted on 01/22/2013 8:26:12 AM PST by brownsfan (Behold, the power of government cheese.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Including most of the members of my church.


3 posted on 01/22/2013 8:27:36 AM PST by Huskrrrr
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To: SeekAndFind

This last election was gift-wrapped for the GOP according to all the polls. Two things went wrong (abortion and fraud) and it isn’t possible to say which was the more major. But given that the three GOP senate candidates (Allen, Mourdock, and Atkin) who made any sort of an issue about abortion all got killed, the GOP has no other safe assumption than that it needs to leave the abortion issue alone.


4 posted on 01/22/2013 8:28:06 AM PST by varmintman
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To: SeekAndFind

Conservatives don’t abort their children. Liberals do. Why should we stop them?


5 posted on 01/22/2013 8:29:35 AM PST by Cowboy Bob (Soon the "invisible hand" will press the economic "reset" button.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Apparently we have indeed reached the tipping point - this country is a far cry from the Great Nation I remember from by childhood and early adulthood.


6 posted on 01/22/2013 8:29:54 AM PST by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines RVN 1969 - St. Michael the Archangel defend us in Battle!)
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7 posted on 01/22/2013 8:34:07 AM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: SeekAndFind

Given the election results last November, this is hardly surprising. Can we PLEASE dispense with the fiction that this is still “a center-right nation”. The current occupant of the WH is a dedicated hard Leftist along the same lines as Hugo Chavez. A center-right nation wouldn’t elect such a person dog catcher let alone anything else.


8 posted on 01/22/2013 8:34:26 AM PST by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: SeekAndFind

They need to poll outside of their news rooms.


9 posted on 01/22/2013 8:34:58 AM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: SeekAndFind
So, seven out of ten of my neighbors agree with murder of innocents? Tattoo a scarlet A on their foreheads, please!
10 posted on 01/22/2013 8:35:56 AM PST by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: SeekAndFind

At best you could make it a state’s right case. At *best*. And a few might actually ban it. A national ban will never EVER happen. It’s going to start costing more and more elections. I don’t like abortion, but if you gotta make a fight out of it, I say move to a country that bans it or try to make it a state thing.

I think the odds of it being even up to any state in the next 100 years is 5% or less and shrinking all the time.


11 posted on 01/22/2013 8:36:22 AM PST by Monty22002
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To: SeekAndFind

Before I totally give up, I’d like to see a more trustworthy poll on this, as it is a National Barak Channel poll (1000 adults).


12 posted on 01/22/2013 8:36:24 AM PST by Marathoner (Our forefathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: ConorMacNessa

I totally agree. Not the nation I knew growing up. It has become a nightmare. I hardly recognize this country anymore. And we are no longer a superpower anymore as well. PLEASE let’s end that fiction as well.


13 posted on 01/22/2013 8:37:07 AM PST by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: Huskrrrr

Same here. Stunning isn’t it?


14 posted on 01/22/2013 8:37:07 AM PST by RIghtwardHo
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To: varmintman
the GOP has no other safe assumption than that it needs to leave the abortion issue alone.

by leaving it alone, what do you mean?

15 posted on 01/22/2013 8:37:42 AM PST by frogjerk (Obama Claus is coming to town!)
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines

Exactly. The longer we live in the bubble the worse it will be .... and it is BAD.


16 posted on 01/22/2013 8:38:42 AM PST by RIghtwardHo
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To: SeekAndFind; Jim Robinson; everyone
Agenda: Grinding America Down - How Liberals Indoctrinated The US.
Posted on 1/22/2013 2:26:05 AM by Jim Robinson

Why has the American society changed so drastically in the past few decades? How did the feminist movement get started? How did Obama get elected? Why are there so many single parent families? Where is God?

(Excerpt)

THE YOU TUBE Documentary


17 posted on 01/22/2013 8:41:29 AM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: ConorMacNessa

America is a pathetic shadow of what it once was.

Morally bankrupt. The culture is an open-sewer. And the government/media complex has turned the country into a one-party statist entity, ruling a population of dependent serfs. Everything that used to be defined as good and virtuous are now deemed evil, and everything that used to be defined as evil is now praised and celebrated.

It’s quite a thing to behold. Especially for those of us that have memories and knowledge of the greatness that was this country.


18 posted on 01/22/2013 8:42:24 AM PST by greene66
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To: SeekAndFind

The timing of the release of this poll is not mere happenstance. The 40th anniversary of Roe vs Wade and the annual March for Life in Washington on January 25th will be large and enthusiastic. The MSM propaganda in the form of a poll is intended to marginalize those who believe life begins at conception and should be protected.


19 posted on 01/22/2013 8:43:33 AM PST by kabar
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To: varmintman

How was it gifted wrapped with Romney as the candidate, who was nearly identical to obama on social issues.
Well, you should know on most items of concern to conservatives.
It should have been gifted wrapped if the Republicans had not run a liberal.


20 posted on 01/22/2013 8:43:48 AM PST by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: Marathoner

this poll is bull sh** They are trying to push policy with polls. I don’t trust any media anymore.


21 posted on 01/22/2013 8:44:08 AM PST by flowergirl
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To: SeekAndFind

I neither believe or come anywhere near trusting this poll. The prevelance of people who stand AGAINST abortion has done nothing but grow over the last decade. I seriously believe this is fabrication.


22 posted on 01/22/2013 8:45:26 AM PST by ICE-FLYER (God bless and keep the United States of America)
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To: SeekAndFind; wagglebee
Including baby outside of the womb, gasping for air, left to die in a closet for HOURS?

SHeaahhh right, lying commies. No one else stands where President Obama stands on this issue except Mengele.

23 posted on 01/22/2013 8:45:54 AM PST by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: SeekAndFind

What percentage of Americans supported the institution of slavery, with the remark “don’t personally want one but...”.

There is right. There is wrong. There is no “the public prefers...”.

Why disguise the issue of WHEN LIFE BEGINS since scientists are so damned excited about discovering how LIFE BEGAN many millions of years ago? They have observable data for conception to crying baby. They deny the evidence.


24 posted on 01/22/2013 8:48:41 AM PST by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: SeekAndFind

We’re aborting the wrong ones? 54%?


25 posted on 01/22/2013 8:48:53 AM PST by showme_the_Glory (ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government)
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To: svcw
...who was nearly identical to obama on social issues.

I have yet to come across a lib, and I deal with many, who believes that Romney and Obama are identical (even "nearly') on social issues.

Nor did Obama run that way.

26 posted on 01/22/2013 8:48:57 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: svcw

As bad as Romney was, Allen, Mourdock and Atkins were worse. Not because they were liberals, just the opposite. They were professed conservatives who expressed views on abortion which were so bizarre that they set the pro-life movement back substantially.


27 posted on 01/22/2013 8:50:35 AM PST by Mr. Lucky
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To: Mr. Lucky

And worst of all the lost us the senate of their BS. Really screwed us.


28 posted on 01/22/2013 8:52:41 AM PST by Monty22002
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To: kabar

BINGO!


29 posted on 01/22/2013 8:53:34 AM PST by frogjerk (Obama Claus is coming to town!)
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To: 1rudeboy

I found that actually to be that most amusing.
When talking to a liberal, they will list the ever so important social issues that are the reason their vote goes to obama, and when you point out what you just ran down were Romney’s stated political positions, they look at you like you have lobsters crawling out of your ears.

And the most annoying which appears to be happening is the GOPe is is looking for an even more liberal than before candidate, by systematically discrediting actual conservatives.

The Republican Party is dead, it’s time for a new party.


30 posted on 01/22/2013 8:54:50 AM PST by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: SeekAndFind
I think the proper approach to this needs to be outside of pursuits to change the law. The proper approach (i.e. the most pragmatic and likely to have results in the shortest time) is to try to change hearts. Part of this has to be via education. If people really knew what mid and late-term abortion, or partial birth abortion truly was, I have to believe most would be appalled and want them stopped. It's really important to get this information in front of people, even if it is characterized by the left as propaganda (which it clearly isn't).

The other part of this has to be, in my opinion, strong efforts to characterize those who use abortion as a means of birth control as highly irresponsible and selfish, instead of as victims - which is how the MSM and progressives (including Obama) characterize them. Just like Holder's comment about making gun ownership ‘uncool’, like ‘smokers herded together outside’, we need to characterize this kind of selfish and irresponsible lifestyle for what it is. You have to start somewhere, and so I would focus on those who have had recurrent abortions and use it as a means of birth control.

31 posted on 01/22/2013 8:55:50 AM PST by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: Monty22002
"Move to a country that bans it"?? So your position is "abortion, love it or leave it"?

Come to think of it, it smells like disruptor troll in here.

32 posted on 01/22/2013 8:56:43 AM PST by jboot (This isn't your father's America. Stay safe and keep your powder dry.)
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To: kabar
And add to that that Time Magazine just had a big issue stating that the Pro-lifers have been winning ever sense Roe v Wade and Planned Parenthood is shying away from using the label "pro-choice".

This poll is exactly what you said.

33 posted on 01/22/2013 8:59:20 AM PST by frogjerk (Obama Claus is coming to town!)
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To: SeekAndFind
I refuse to believe this push poll data. The cause for Life has been steadily gaining on the culture of Death since Roe v. Wade.

The progress that science has made, 3-D and 4-D images from the womb, conception to birth visualized, has definitively proved Life for all to see.


34 posted on 01/22/2013 8:59:29 AM PST by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: SeekAndFind

So we’ve finally trained our young ladies to be B’s and hoe’s.

Hard to believe we’ve gone from a 4% illegitimate birth rate to over 40% in my lifetime. And the 4% was BEFORE RoeWade, when abortions were not commonly available. So abortion has not solved unplanned pregnancy. Rather the new secular morality which espouses both abortion and sexual ‘liberation’ has led to a society where nearly half of all children are born out of wedlock, raised by a single mother on government support.

How exactly will society function when half the population was raised in this manner; without work ethic, dependent on government handouts, and without a father for moral guidance? Will the other half work twice as hard to support these crime prone vagabonds through redistributive taxation? And why should we be surprised when these morally bankrupt government dependents vote for the welfare king, Barack I?

God help our children, because the United States as we know it has ceased to exist.


35 posted on 01/22/2013 8:59:57 AM PST by LucianOfSamasota (Tanstaafl - its not just for breakfast anymore...)
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To: svcw

“The Republican Party is dead, it’s time for a new party.”

Actually it is time for a new country.

I used to worry about the commies landing here or the Ruskies blowing us off the map. Now I don’t worry one bit because we have gotten to the point where we are morally at least as bad as they are or perhaps in some cases even worse.

I was watching The Rifleman on old rerun TV the other evening....pointed out to my wife, could you imagine a show with as moralistic a message as that show had that it would even be allowed into production today! Just trying to find a lead actor who could pull off that role would be a chore.


36 posted on 01/22/2013 9:01:55 AM PST by Mouton (108th MI Group.....68-71)
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To: Servant of the Cross

Show the picture of the baby in the womb and then poll the question; is it all right to kill this child?


37 posted on 01/22/2013 9:04:43 AM PST by usual suspect
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To: brownsfan

-— I am a stranger in a strange land -—

A stranger in a post-Christian land.

C.S. Lewis said that neo-paganism in the West will be worse than ancient paganism, because we will have rejected Christ.

It’s a sobering thought. Personally, I’m amazed by God’s patience.


38 posted on 01/22/2013 9:06:57 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: SeekAndFind
See also: NBC poll is grossly misleading...
http://www.lifenews.com/2013/01/22/nbc-poll-claiming-americans-favor-roe-is-grossly-misleading/
Would like to add that a multitude of polls the last several years have shown that Americans have turned pro-life. For example the article linked from Life News link above quotes a Marist poll showing 83% or respondents want restrictions on Roe v. Wade.
39 posted on 01/22/2013 9:08:28 AM PST by Missouri gal
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To: SeekAndFind

I bet a lot of pople are totally ignorant about abortion, its not like they ever show the results of one on TV


40 posted on 01/22/2013 9:11:00 AM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: jboot

I dunno what else to tell you. It’s never going to be illegal again. I mean, you can hope it will be, but I think everyone knows it can be at best left to states. And even that will be nearly impossible.


41 posted on 01/22/2013 9:13:13 AM PST by Monty22002
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To: usual suspect
Show the picture of the baby in the womb and then poll the question; is it all right to kill this child?

BTTT! Damn straight!

42 posted on 01/22/2013 9:16:12 AM PST by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: SeekAndFind

So what? Obama just eliminated the “right to privacy” between a doctor and patient with the stroke of a pen. His Executive Actions, which were applauded by the pro-murder cult members, overturned Roe!\

Now that we no longer have a “right to privacy” between a doctor and patient, and now that we also have the legal means to set up a 15 member board to decide what “procedures” are allowed, then it is easy to no longer allow abortions and to then prosecute any participant in that disallowed procedure!

They have made the state all powerful, so we might as well use their tools against them.


43 posted on 01/22/2013 9:16:47 AM PST by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: Monty22002
Your state argument is a non-starter. It is not possible to make abortion a state issue without overturning Roe. Roe was what nationalized the issue in the first place.

So the choices are give up or leave, eh?

44 posted on 01/22/2013 9:22:53 AM PST by jboot (This isn't your father's America. Stay safe and keep your powder dry.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Shaking my head..........


45 posted on 01/22/2013 9:23:40 AM PST by rrrod (at home in Medellin Colombia)
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To: Mr. Lucky

First is that Akun and Murdoch really didn’t address abortion it was comments about rape. That said they can take as much credit for this poll as any hag on Emily’s list. Their misogynistic and factually untrue statements were used against us. They gave the enemy the rope.


46 posted on 01/22/2013 9:23:45 AM PST by Blackirish (Forward Comrades!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Monty22002

> I say move to a country that bans

It’s still illegal in Brazil.

The warm weather is beginning to appeal to me more.

It’s run by Marxists, but they’re not stupid Marxists like ours. Brazilian Marxists have no problem with drilling for oil anywhere they find it.


47 posted on 01/22/2013 9:24:15 AM PST by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: Cowboy Bob
Conservatives don’t abort their children. Liberals do. Why should we stop them?

For those who truly believe we are in a war with the left - a real war that will cost many lives, there is horrible truth to your point.

48 posted on 01/22/2013 9:25:02 AM PST by Longbow1969
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To: jboot

For it to be legalized it would have to be more popular than ever with a more conservative government than we had during Bush/GOP congress. I don’t see that combination happening again much, and if so just barely.

Honestly, if it were one of my absolute issues that I couldn’t live around, I’d certainly leave over this one. It’s not going to change anytime soon. I think everyone knows that.


49 posted on 01/22/2013 9:31:12 AM PST by Monty22002
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To: varmintman
the GOP has no other safe assumption than that it needs to leave the abortion issue alone.

Can we really do that though? Where does it end? Imagine if the GOP completely gave up on the social issues (which I think is the direction they are going). In New York they are talking about lifting the restrictions on 3rd trimester abortions. Can Republicans sit on the sidelines for that?

50 posted on 01/22/2013 9:34:37 AM PST by Longbow1969
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