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Oh, by the way: New York forgot to exempt cops from its new ban on high-capacity magazines (Ooops)
Hotair ^ | 01/17/2013 | AllahPundit

Posted on 01/17/2013 8:15:18 PM PST by SeekAndFind

Via Mark Levin, here's what happens when Doing Something is more important than knowing what you're doing. You've got a governor here who's facing reelection in 2014 and may well end up being the national frontrunner for his party's nomination in 2016 if Hillary doesn't run. He's feeling political pressure not just from above, in the form of a president who's vowed to drum up Do Something fever among Democrats nationally, but from below in the form of a rich, high-profile nanny-state mayor for whom this is a pet issue. One of his top national rivals is also scrambling to put together a gun-control package to impress progressives, and the bigmouth from the state next door was inevitably going to start sucking up the local media oxygen by chiming in on this subject too. Action had to be taken, and it had to be taken quickly to impress a left that's grown suspicious of him lately. Result: For the moment, it's illegal for cops to carry magazines with more than seven bullets in New York State. You wanted Cuomo and the state legislature to Do Something, New York. They did it.

They did a lot, actually:

Mental health experts say a new tougher New York state gun control law might interfere with treatment of potentially dangerous people and even discourage them from seeking help.

The law would require therapists, doctors, nurses and social workers to tell government authorities if they believe a patient is likely to harm himself or others. That could lead to revoking the patient’s gun permit and seizing any guns…

“The people who arguably most need to be in treatment and most need to feel free to talk about these disturbing impulses, may be the ones we make least likely to do so,” said the director of law, ethics and psychiatry at Columbia. “They will either simply not come, or not report the thoughts that they have.”

“If people with suicidal or homicidal impulses avoid treatment for fear of being reported in this way, they may be more likely to act on those impulses,” he said.

That’s a solid result for gun control. The police are momentarily in limbo legally and the threat to the public might actually increase as would-be spree killers decide it’s now too risky to seek therapy. Get Cuomo’s office a video camera and a group of kids reading letters about gun control, stat.

Update: High-capacity magazines may not be the only loophole that’s snared New York police. According to one lawmaker, cops might be technically be banned from carrying on school grounds too.

CLICK ABOVE LINK FOR THE VIDEO



TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: guncontrol; secondamendment

1 posted on 01/17/2013 8:15:24 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: Mears

bfl


2 posted on 01/17/2013 8:18:19 PM PST by Mears
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To: SeekAndFind

This is what happens when low information politicians go off half-cocked.


3 posted on 01/17/2013 8:19:08 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (HealthCare IS NOT a right. The RIGHT to keep and bear arms is.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Another example of reading a bill before you pass it. Duh.


4 posted on 01/17/2013 8:21:24 PM PST by tioga
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To: SeekAndFind

there is no reason for cops to have greater capacity mags than civilians. They both have to defend against the same criminals. The cops have an advantage because they usually operate in teams. If they think they need 30 rounders, the people need 30 rounders for the same reason


5 posted on 01/17/2013 8:23:01 PM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: SeekAndFind

Maybe they didn’t forget. Given how New York law enforcement shoots, it may be a smart thing to limit them too; perhaps one bullet in a breast pocket?


6 posted on 01/17/2013 8:26:14 PM PST by rey
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To: SeekAndFind

Our founders didn’t create a system of governance that works at a snail’s pace by mistake. The separate houses are called “deliberative bodies” for a reason.

They’re supposed to deliberate, not rush to agreement without considerable thought.


7 posted on 01/17/2013 8:26:50 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek

Best comment I’ve read in a while.


8 posted on 01/17/2013 8:28:04 PM PST by Dan Nunn (Support the NRA!)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Yep! It’s all about ‘feelings’.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jC3JFVKJtyM


9 posted on 01/17/2013 8:28:42 PM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Great vid by ShorelineMike! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOZjJk6nbD4&feature=plcp)
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To: paul51

There is a very small but genuine difference between cops and subjects, err, citizens. While we may only defend ourselves, our homes, and others in harm’s way, they are allowed to go on the offensive, chase people down, and storm fortified positions, and remove threats such as friendly Pekingese and terriers.


10 posted on 01/17/2013 8:35:49 PM PST by Tublecane
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Low intelligence politicians.


11 posted on 01/17/2013 8:39:04 PM PST by taterjay
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To: rey

Hey Barn!


12 posted on 01/17/2013 8:52:52 PM PST by delchiante
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To: Mears

Send the Texas National Guard to NY to arrest the NYPD.


13 posted on 01/17/2013 8:56:36 PM PST by Morris70
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To: SeekAndFind

Idiots all.


14 posted on 01/17/2013 9:00:15 PM PST by glock rocks (Pro Deo et Constitutione - Libertas aut Mors)
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To: SeekAndFind

You really don’t need more than 10 rounds.

Didn’t Cuomo say that?


15 posted on 01/17/2013 9:52:52 PM PST by Tzimisce (The American Revolution began when the British attempted to disarm the Colonists.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The keystone cops are back!!


16 posted on 01/17/2013 10:16:23 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: SeekAndFind

are they also going to fix the law so that section 1 doesn’t make it illegal to own any gun at all?


17 posted on 01/17/2013 10:43:40 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I don’t have a problem with limits on government employees.

I do have a problem with the same limits on law-abiding private citizens.


18 posted on 01/17/2013 10:51:41 PM PST by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: SeekAndFind

Why do the Police need high capacity magazines? If the law makes them illegal for civilians then no one will have them and the Police will in turn not need theirs. Is that not correct?


19 posted on 01/17/2013 10:59:07 PM PST by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I sign up for the American Revolution 2013 and the Crusades 2013?)
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To: SeekAndFind
IMO, this was a law designed to be thrown out.
20 posted on 01/17/2013 11:32:22 PM PST by Carry_Okie (GunWalker: Arming "a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as well funded")
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To: SeekAndFind

According to the government, only the government police needs high capacity magazines, as why else would he government buy 1.2 billion rounds of hollow tip ammunition? Also drones, armored vehicles, etc., and doing away with the 4th Amendment, etc. They’re not as stupid as they look.


21 posted on 01/18/2013 3:31:11 AM PST by Redmen4ever
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To: SeekAndFind

Now would be the time to gum up the legislative works, somehow, and force the Rat enforcers to live by the same rules as are applied to everyone else. Does the GOP not have any power or backbone in NY (rhetorical question).


22 posted on 01/18/2013 3:59:19 AM PST by Truth29
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To: tioga; SeekAndFind; FlingWingFlyer
The American people need to DEMAND that NO legislation at ANY level gets passed that hasn't been published for a week for review by both the legislature and the public.

Everyone in America should be outraged that this got pushed through so quickly, whether or not you believe in gun control. It goes against the very basic idea of representative government. Democrats will keep doing this to ALL OF US if we let them.

You DU lurkers - imagine if Republicans took advantage of a tragedy at an abortion clinic to ram an anti-abortion law through. How would you feel about that?

23 posted on 01/18/2013 4:32:14 AM PST by Hardastarboard (The Liberal ruling class hates me. The feeling is mutual.)
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To: paul51
The cops have an advantage because they usually operate in teams. If they think they need 30 rounders, the people need 30 rounders for the same reason.

Cops may also be at a disadvantage in that way too many don't spend enough time at the range once they graduate from the academy and as a result, they are less proficient with a firearm than the civilian who carries.

24 posted on 01/18/2013 6:01:31 AM PST by Labyrinthos
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To: Truth29

Not that long ago there was a viable republican check on democrat power in NY. Republicans held the senate my entire life until a few years ago. The former republican upstate has been destroyed by motor voter laws and same day registration. Now all the idiots that can barely drag themselves out of bed in the morning are registered voters.


25 posted on 01/18/2013 6:30:36 AM PST by cdpap
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To: SeekAndFind

The seven round limit will mean that many if not most guns are actually banned, not just assault and semi-autos.


26 posted on 01/19/2013 9:15:31 AM PST by dervish (either the vote was corrupt or the electorate is)
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To: SeekAndFind
No doubt they will fix this oversight, and make a similar exception for the bodyguards protecting Very Important People and the armed school guards protecting the children of same. For the time being the cops will just wink at this law: who is going to prosecute?
27 posted on 01/19/2013 9:37:50 AM PST by Ragnar54 (Obama replaced Osama as America's worst enemy)
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