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Rep. Israel to Introduce Legislation to Prohibit 3-D Printed High-Cap Mags Along w/ Plastic Guns
House.gov ^ | January 16, 2013 | Congressman Steve Israel (D-Huntington)

Posted on 01/16/2013 3:07:43 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

As Debate Stirs Around High-Capacity Gun Clips, Homemade Gun Enthusiasts Show Clip Can be Made At Home with 3-D Printer

Washington, D.C.— Today, Congressman Steve Israel (D-Huntington) called for a renewal of a revamped Undetectable Firearms Act that includes the ban of 3-D printed, plastic high-capacity magazines. The existing ban on plastic guns expires this year and does not clearly cover magazines. This past weekend, Defense Distributed, a group of homemade gun enthusiasts used a 3-D printer to print and test an ammunition magazine for an AR semi-automatic rifle, loading and firing 86 rounds from the 30-round clip.

Rep. Israel said, “Background checks and gun regulations will do little good if criminals can print high-capacity magazines at home. 3-D printing is a new technology that shows great promise, but also requires new guidelines. Law enforcement officials should have the power to stop high-capacity magazines from proliferating with a Google search.”(continued)

(Excerpt) Read more at israel.house.gov ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government
KEYWORDS: banglist; confiscation; democrats; guncontrol; newyork; secondamendment
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That didn't take long.
1 posted on 01/16/2013 3:07:48 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Horse. Barn door. Too late.

/johnny

2 posted on 01/16/2013 3:09:48 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What we really need are published templates to cut and form sheet metal into magazines. Some company could sell tempered springs; I doubt there is a law against springs, yet.


3 posted on 01/16/2013 3:12:41 PM PST by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Oh,this is just too delicious.


4 posted on 01/16/2013 3:12:41 PM PST by technically right
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

America, land of the free.


5 posted on 01/16/2013 3:13:01 PM PST by glorgau
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Are they going to make it a felony to own a 3d printer?
Will you have to register your 3d printer with the U.S Govt. dept. of Printing?
Banning the printing press worked great the last time.


6 posted on 01/16/2013 3:16:24 PM PST by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll eventually get what you deserve)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well, we will just truck along perfecting the technology with entirely legal mags that will be designed to be easy to extent should the need ever arise.

Marketing coup possibility: Can a NewYork-compliant 7 round AR magazine be the first to market???


7 posted on 01/16/2013 3:20:27 PM PST by theBuckwheat
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Next up, 64 oz cups.


8 posted on 01/16/2013 3:21:00 PM PST by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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To: theBuckwheat

How about a 7 round magazine of 7 round magazines.


9 posted on 01/16/2013 3:23:34 PM PST by RS_Rider (I hate Illinois Nazis)
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To: philetus

Remind me how the Roman Empire felt about its subject peoples having the tools to make swords, spears and bows.


10 posted on 01/16/2013 3:23:47 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: null and void
Of interest to you, possibly.

/johnny

11 posted on 01/16/2013 3:23:47 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Twit.


12 posted on 01/16/2013 3:24:35 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: theBuckwheat

“3-D printing is a new technology that shows great promise, but also requires new guidelines.”

Don’t you just love how malleable and plastic the meaning of words is to a liberal (er, now “progressive”)?? But the “guidelines” are not suggestions, for if this fascist has his way, if anyone violates his “guidelines”, they might end up a felon. So liberal “guidelines” now come with men with guns. I see.


13 posted on 01/16/2013 3:24:46 PM PST by theBuckwheat
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To: philetus

Hey, the Soviet Russians made it illegal to own a regular copier or fax machine, why can’t the Soviet Americans do the same thing wrt more advanced technology?/s;)


14 posted on 01/16/2013 3:26:19 PM PST by Frank_2001
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

...gun enthusiasts...loading and firing 86 rounds from the 30-round clip.

What does this mean? Was it a 30 or 86 round mag they printed?

...revamped Undetectable Firearms Act that Rep. Israel wrote makes it illegal to manufacture, own, transport, buy, or sell any firearm or high-capacity magazine that is not detectable by metal detector and/or does not present an accurate image when put through an x-ray machine....

So his bill really has nothing to do with 3D printing a mag, it’s really about ALL mags that don’t show up on an x-ray machine.
Do OEM plastic mags show up on an x-ray?


15 posted on 01/16/2013 3:27:20 PM PST by HEM
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To: TexasRepublic

Millions of men have the skills and the tools in their garage to make steel mags. Just buy 10 round mags, cut, splice and weld together. Spot weld the springs.


16 posted on 01/16/2013 3:27:35 PM PST by umgud
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Yea, well they're gonna have to "Prohibit" tin cans, tin snips, and ball pein hammers as well.
17 posted on 01/16/2013 3:27:49 PM PST by Errant
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To: TexasRepublic

AR 30-Round Magazines Now Available for Download, Seriously

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/141644816/AR-30-Round-Magazines-Now-Available-for-Download-Seriously


18 posted on 01/16/2013 3:30:42 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This is my Congresscritter. He’s a tool.

Regards,


19 posted on 01/16/2013 3:31:31 PM PST by VermiciousKnid (Sic narro nos totus!)
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To: umgud
Millions of men have the skills and the tools in their garage to make steel mags.

Congresscritters rarely realize that regular citizens built this country, the cars, the roads, the nuclear weapons for the military.... We're the ones that build that stuff. It doesn't come from some magic place.

/johnny

20 posted on 01/16/2013 3:33:01 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: philetus
Seems like 3D printing is a FREE PRESS issue ~ no wonder extreme leftists like this Israel guy are so ambitious to bury the technology.

We need to restart HUAC ~ start hauling these guys in to tell us about their communist party activities.

21 posted on 01/16/2013 3:36:37 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
->Rep. Israel said, “Background checks and gun regulations will do little good if criminals can print high-capacity magazines at home. 3-D printing is a new technology that shows great promise, but also requires new guidelines. Law enforcement officials should have the power to stop high-

Duh. Now, guess we are going to have to register our printers, too.

22 posted on 01/16/2013 3:38:17 PM PST by Christie at the beach (I like Newt. Our nation's foundation is under attack.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Hey, congressman jerkface.

I’ll do it anyway. Try and stop me.


23 posted on 01/16/2013 3:40:49 PM PST by Crazieman (Are you naive enough to think VOTING will fix this entrenched system?)
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To: Frank_2001
In Yemen private ownership of weaponry is essentially unrestricted. On the other hand photocopy equipment was so restricted the prime minister was not allowed to use the one in his office.

Their parliament fixed that one ~ remember, part of Yemen is the first communist country to be liberated! That way you get a little bit of this and little bit of that and some of it is just incomprehensible. BTW, well dressed men arrive at a soiree with freshly polished RPGs

24 posted on 01/16/2013 3:42:56 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Crazieman
That, in the end, is the only appropriate answer.

/johnny

25 posted on 01/16/2013 3:43:33 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It would appear the Law of Unintended Consequences is gonna get a real workout.


26 posted on 01/16/2013 3:46:33 PM PST by upchuck (America's at an awkward stage. Too late to work within the system, too early to shoot the bastards.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I hope that Israel understands that Israel would be dead meat with the type of gun control he supports.

As to this, he’s just whistling into the wind. There is NO WAY that this Congress will pass ANYTHING resembling gun control. Even the Dems are scared to death of this issue.


27 posted on 01/16/2013 3:48:16 PM PST by BobL
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
These f'ing people make me sick.
Always with the control, imposing their will.

This is truly what 2A is for.

28 posted on 01/16/2013 3:51:32 PM PST by grobdriver (Sic semper tyrannis!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Is this the same guy who proposed outlawing masturbation?


29 posted on 01/16/2013 3:51:57 PM PST by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: rawcatslyentist

‘64 oz cups’

I own one of those. I don’t travel to NYC at all.


30 posted on 01/16/2013 4:05:33 PM PST by Delta Dawn (at)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Whew! I was afraid they would ban printing pineapple grenades.


31 posted on 01/16/2013 4:35:14 PM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It strikes me that an undetectable anti-tank mine with EFP can be easily printed off one of these things.

Will blow an M1, and will make flying dust of smaller things.

The mag depots are long since saturated.


32 posted on 01/16/2013 4:37:08 PM PST by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Vendetta))
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To: muawiyah

And then not just release them into the water again, but hang them.


33 posted on 01/16/2013 4:41:06 PM PST by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Vendetta))
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To: VermiciousKnid

Same here! How do you like the nerve of this creep. We need “guidelines” from asshats like him. He couldn’t change the batteries in a flashlight if his life depended on it. But he’s one great whore of a politician. One of them should introduce a bill to keep these idiots away from television and newspapers. Dem Congresscritters should be kept pure and ignorant - like canaries!


34 posted on 01/16/2013 4:58:55 PM PST by rex regnum insanit (falsus in uno, falsus in omnibus)
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To: Frank_2001

“Hey, the Soviet Russians made it illegal to own a regular copier or fax machine,”

Their copier machines made TWO copies - one for you, one for the “keyski operator” (aka KGB agent) to have, removable from inside under lock and key That’s how “dangerous” they were.


35 posted on 01/16/2013 5:01:18 PM PST by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

http://www.speer-bullets.com/products/components/plastic_training_bullets.aspx

plastic bullets


36 posted on 01/16/2013 5:06:56 PM PST by rolling_stone
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To: RS_Rider
How about a 7 round magazine of 7 round magazines.

Or how about a 30-shot revolver?

37 posted on 01/16/2013 5:07:14 PM PST by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m sure it would be alot cheaper to just buy a welder and make your own from a little bit of sheet metal and a spring. There’s nothing sensational about a 3D printed magazine. I’d be more impressed when they can start layering metal with extreme precision and can make small metal parts. That’ll be much more useful.


38 posted on 01/16/2013 5:14:19 PM PST by Svartalfiar
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To: rex regnum insanit

You said it, rex! Man, but I can’t stand Steve Israel. He’s like a discount store Bloomberg. I tell you — one day I hope to be represented in Congress by someone for whom I actually voted.

But I’ll have to move away for that to happen.

Regards,

PS: I see you like Latin. Do you attend St. Matthew’s church by any chance? (That’s my parish; we go to the Latin Mass there.)


39 posted on 01/16/2013 5:34:06 PM PST by VermiciousKnid (Sic narro nos totus!)
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To: Svartalfiar

I’m sure that’s coming. We won’t recognize industry 10 years from now.


40 posted on 01/16/2013 5:34:51 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: TexasRepublic

You can make your own springs by wrapping piano wire around a dowel


41 posted on 01/16/2013 6:32:33 PM PST by Renegade
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To: VermiciousKnid

Sorry for the delay. I know what you mean. The last time I had a Congressman I voted for was in the early 80’s!

P.S. — St Hugh of Lincoln.


42 posted on 01/16/2013 8:04:19 PM PST by rex regnum insanit (falsus in uno, falsus in omnibus)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Remind me how the Roman Empire felt about its subject peoples having the tools to make swords, spears and bows.

I think it was in the Karate Kid original movie, it was mentioned that the Okinawans were forbidden from having swords and spears, so they developed karate - fighting with their bare hands. Dn't know if this is true. But anyway, despotic governments never learn, that people will find the way to arm themselves, somehow, some way. Obamites may stop us from buying arms, but we'll make our own.

43 posted on 01/16/2013 8:10:21 PM PST by roadcat
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To: Svartalfiar; 2ndDivisionVet

http://www.gpiprototype.com/?gclid=CN3FwKfu77QCFQ-f4AodGFAA8w

Direct Metal Laser Sintering - I don’t know if the result is suitable for use in a magazine, what little I know about sintered metal is that it might be too brittle, but these things are progressing rapidly.


44 posted on 01/17/2013 9:09:14 AM PST by slowhandluke (It's hard to be cynical enough in this age.)
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To: JRandomFreeper; AD from SpringBay; al_c; AnalogReigns; archy; bmwcyle; Boogieman; bigbob; ...

3-D printer ping

(This one’s a little late)....


45 posted on 01/25/2013 9:31:46 PM PST by null and void (Gun confiscation enables tyranny. Don't enable Tyranny)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Law enforcement officials should have the power to stop high-capacity magazines from proliferating with a Google search.”

Guess what? It doesn’t matter what you think they should have the power to do. The technology is here and you can’t stop it. Neener neener neener!


46 posted on 01/25/2013 10:06:48 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: HEM

“What does this mean? Was it a 30 or 86 round mag they printed?”

It was a 30 round mag, but I think they just fired 86 rounds using the printed mag in that videotaped test.


47 posted on 01/25/2013 10:08:56 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: TexasRepublic

Springs are nothing but mandrel bent piano wire.


48 posted on 01/26/2013 12:11:02 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Yep.

Just bend it *once*. Pud easy.


49 posted on 01/26/2013 12:21:40 AM PST by NVDave
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To: slowhandluke

Sounds too me like a candidate for home making frangible bullets.

Very soon I expect people will come up with a new 3D printed caseless ammo, whole thing is printed, fill with powder and add primer. A longer lighter bullet because the case is part of the bullet, and it disintegrates upon impact, nothing but sintered metal fragments, much like the new varmint bullets.


50 posted on 01/26/2013 2:58:46 AM PST by Eye of Unk (AR2 2013 is the American Revolution part 2 of 2013)
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