[dirtymac]

Oakland and it’s sisters:
Chicago, Detroit, Atlanta, Clevland, Pittsburg, and etc.

[norton]

On the other hand:
If not for Oakland, 'Frisco could not exist in it's present form.

PS: Last time I had to be in SF I was put up in a high scale hotel in a 'safe' part of town. I arrived in time to witness the aftermath of a mugging on the entrance steps of that same hotel.