“The only possible reason/purpose I could see the need for a CC and would support is one adding a final amendment that officially sanctions a process for state secession. “
Odd that you should mention that. This is what I got back from that ever transparent site wh.gov—petitions, along with a missive about how educated our LIAR in Chief is about the Constitution.
Petition Response: Our States Remain United
By Jon Carson, Director of the Office of Public Engagement
Thank you for using the White House’s online petitions platform to participate in your government.
In a nation of 300 million people — each with their own set of deeply-held beliefs — democracy can be noisy and controversial. And that’s a good thing. Free and open debate is what makes this country work, and many people around the world risk their lives every day for the liberties we often take for granted.
But as much as we value a healthy debate, we don’t let that debate tear us apart.
Our founding fathers established the Constitution of the United States “in order to form a more perfect union” through the hard and frustrating but necessary work of self-government. They enshrined in that document the right to change our national government through the power of the ballot — a right that generations of Americans have fought to secure for all. But they did not provide a right to walk away from it. As President Abraham Lincoln explained in his first inaugural address in 1861, “in contemplation of universal law and of the Constitution the Union of these States is perpetual.” In the years that followed, more than 600,000 Americans died in a long and bloody civil war that vindicated the principle that the Constitution establishes a permanent union between the States. And shortly after the Civil War ended, the Supreme Court confirmed that “[t]he Constitution, in all its provisions, looks to an indestructible Union composed of indestructible States.”
Although the founders established a perpetual union, they also provided for a government that is, as President Lincoln would later describe it, “of the people, by the people, and for the people” — all of the people. Participation in, and engagement with, government is the cornerstone of our democracy. And because every American who wants to participate deserves a government that is accessible and responsive, the Obama Administration has created a host of new tools and channels to connect concerned citizens with White House. In fact, one of the most exciting aspects of the We the People platform is a chance to engage directly with our most outspoken critics.
So let’s be clear: No one disputes that our country faces big challenges, and the recent election followed a vigorous debate about how they should be addressed. As President Obama said the night he won re-election, “We may have battled fiercely, but it’s only because we love this country deeply and we care so strongly about its future.”
Actually, I don’t think that the WH response from some Obama lackey really says much at all about redress other than “we won, you get the hell over it” “If you don’t like it, win an election.”
I am still steadfast and immutable in my opposition to a CC because I know what it would become; just like what the media and polpundits are doing now with their gun-control agendas. I only quipped about the final amendment and “process for secession” as a last ditch hope, but with no real expectation of any reasonable fruition.
The text in the response about founders establishing a permanent this or that is patent BS. No matter how much the people that stole our government, this last election, would like to believe, the secession matter is not settled.
It was ‘settled’ by the victors in a Civil War, but not to satisfaction of and efficacy for all citizens. Winners get to do that. They can keep that status quo as long as they can hold it. Just like Ben Franklin’s remarks about us having a Republic, as long as we can hold onto it.
Our founding fathers seceded from England - it’s called freedom from tyranny and was only successful because of armed revolt. No one in their right mind could envision that a group of God-inspired men so committed would EVER agree with a permanent, non-redressable government. NO ONE -who is sane.
As for the BS comment about THE BARACK’s education on the Constitution, it is not borne of patriot reverence; it is borne from hatred and ancient warrior idioms regarding “knowing one’s enemy.”