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Rand Paul: Less Aid to Israel Would Increase Its Sovereignty
Newsmax ^ | Monday, 07 Jan 2013 05:34 PM | Stephen Feller

Posted on 01/07/2013 5:49:38 PM PST by Olog-hai

If financial aid to Israel were slowly decreased over time, it would increase the Jewish state’s sovereignty because they wouldn’t need to get permission from the U.S. every time they need to defend themselves against aggressive neighbors, Sen. Rand Paul said on Monday.

Paul said that while he knows the idea of decreasing any kind of foreign aid is a “minority opinion” in Washington, it will be a lot harder for America to help others “if we are out of money,” reported Fox News. …

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events; US: Kentucky; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 113th; antizionism; dumb; endallforeignaid; foreignaid; idiocy; isolationism; isolationist; israel; kentucky; paulbots; randpaul; randpaultruthfile; ronpaultruthfile; stupidparty
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To: American in Israel

A bit of an overreactions to a freefloating quote from a snippet of a story. Rand Paul is one of the very, very few Washingtonians to understand the debt problem.


21 posted on 01/07/2013 6:18:08 PM PST by Tublecane
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To: Olog-hai

Watching the Muslims slowing but up this country’s media and helping idiots like Paul bots and Obama get into office is beyond frightening .

Then nasty anti-semite Hagel who treated everyone like crap while in office tells me
Israel is in deep trouble .


22 posted on 01/07/2013 6:19:51 PM PST by ncalburt (Axelrod Psych OPS has gone to 24/7 non stop - "The election is over " status until Nov)
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To: GraceG

Maybe it was in the same damnable breath. You’d never know, because whoever wrote the article gets to decide when and what to tell us, especially what to put in the headline.


23 posted on 01/07/2013 6:20:08 PM PST by Tublecane
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To: Tublecane

Raw stop making lame excuses got this flake


24 posted on 01/07/2013 6:21:02 PM PST by ncalburt (Axelrod Psych OPS has gone to 24/7 non stop - "The election is over " status until Nov)
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To: Olog-hai

Israel is the ONLY reliable ally we have in the entire Mediterranean area. Its the only non-Muslim state in the Levant or North Africa.

Only a total idiot or a Paul could POSSIBLY come to such a conclusion.

Why is it that we get such loose cannons and people devoid of faith in the core principles they allege to follow in our ranks??????


25 posted on 01/07/2013 6:23:00 PM PST by ZULU (See video: http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2012/09/the-first-siege-of-vienna.html)
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To: Olog-hai

What is wrong with Rand Paul? There’s no conceivable reason why anyone in Washington would make it a point to publicly express an opinion unfavorable to Israel unless he/she was seeking a position in the Obama administration.

No one has any reason to be interested in what Rand Paul might think about Israel except anti-semites whom Mr. Paul might be trying to ingratiate himself with.


26 posted on 01/07/2013 6:23:46 PM PST by Bluestocking
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To: Gluteus Maximus

All the anti Semites are out in full
Force tonight !
Israel is are only military ally on the region and a source for all terrorist movements .
Where did you live on 9-11!


27 posted on 01/07/2013 6:24:15 PM PST by ncalburt (Axelrod Psych OPS has gone to 24/7 non stop - "The election is over " status until Nov)
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To: Olog-hai
Interestingly, there are a number of staunch supporters of Israel who have been saying this for years. One of their concerns was that Israel's reliance on U.S. military and financial aid would result in political constraints on Israel that would potentially put Israel's interests at risk under changing U.S. administrations.

I think noted "neo-con" Richard Perle was the author of a report on this very subject a while back.

28 posted on 01/07/2013 6:24:30 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("I am the master of my fate ... I am the captain of my soul.")
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To: Vladzred

Reducing aid to Israel and not reducing aid to muslim countries is to stab Israel in the back. My comment is not knee jerk, it is serious. STOP giveing money and weapons to Muslims. They are at war with us, they want to kill us all. Giving them weapons is knee-jerk spending.

Glad that Sen. Paul understands giving foreign aid that we dont have away is stupid. But perhaps focusing on our enemies first instead of our friends is beyond obvious.

To some at least.


29 posted on 01/07/2013 6:25:59 PM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Gluteus Maximus
Good points there. A broader issue is that a lot of folks all across the political spectrum are likely to become very concerned once other nations start to have a stronger influence in U.S. politics and end up imposing their own "moral commitments" on us through their lobbying efforts.

Heck -- I would make the case that Saudi Arabia now has at least as much influence on U.S. foreign policy as Israel ever did.

30 posted on 01/07/2013 6:27:31 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("I am the master of my fate ... I am the captain of my soul.")
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To: ncalburt

Consider the handle.


31 posted on 01/07/2013 6:27:39 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Tublecane

If I thought a font size larger than 10 would have worked on the page, I would have used it.

WE... HAVE... NO... MONEY...

There is no worse fool than one that once had lots of money and still has a Visa mentality.


32 posted on 01/07/2013 6:29:09 PM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: ncalburt

“Raw stop making lame excuses got this flake”

Huh?


33 posted on 01/07/2013 6:29:59 PM PST by Tublecane
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To: Alberta's Child

Rand Paul was stating a canard. Israel’s foreign policy is not influenced by US aid coming from liberal DC politicians.

And as for foreign aid to Islamist countries (especially those neighboring Israel), well and good that we cut them off, but that means that other countries that fund them merely keep it up or increase their funding. And such countries have quite a bit of antipathy towards Israel.


34 posted on 01/07/2013 6:30:39 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

It’s a good example of why I don’t trust libertarians. They pander to leftist prejudices. They know what they’re doing and want to stick it to Christian conservatives.

They turn a blind eye to the government legalizing abortion and then act like its nobodies business once it’s legal.


35 posted on 01/07/2013 6:31:02 PM PST by lonestar67 (I remember when unemployment was 4.7 percent)
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To: Tublecane
Rand Paul is one of the very, very few Washingtonians to understand the debt problem.

I disagree. His first target upon arrival in DC was the defense budget, which is constitutional, and absolutely necessary. But, like his colleagues, he has offered nothing serious in terms of the real budget problems, which are the unconstitutional New Deal and Great Society entitlement programs and the agencies that have grown up around them. They are what is breaking our back.

I hate to do it but I'll paraphrase James Carville: "It's the unconstitutional spending, stupid."

As far as Israel is concerned, we get more bang for our defense buck helping them than we do practically anywhere else.

No surprises here at all re Rand Paul. It's been clear all along that he's nothing more than a little slicker version of his father.

36 posted on 01/07/2013 6:32:44 PM PST by EternalVigilance (The First Amendment does not separate church and state. But it should separate school and state.)
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To: American in Israel

Who has a Visa mentality? This article is about Rand wantng to end foreign subsidies. I don’t know the context of his “if” because the reporter won’t tell me. But I’ll bet you it was rhetorical.


37 posted on 01/07/2013 6:34:37 PM PST by Tublecane
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To: onyx
Yes, he said all aid to countries like Egypt and Pakistan would FIRST have to be stopped before talk of any cuts in aid to Israel.

Somehow, you are the only person among the horde of neocon seminar posters on this thread who has managed to provide an accurate context for Paul's quote.

38 posted on 01/07/2013 6:40:59 PM PST by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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To: EternalVigilance
No surprises here at all re Rand Paul. It's been clear all along that he's nothing more than a little slicker version of his father.

True. Ron Paul and Hutton Gibson could co-author a book on how to parent sons.

39 posted on 01/07/2013 6:41:16 PM PST by lonevoice (Today I broke my personal record for most consecutive days lived)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

Just because we defund Egypt, Palestine, Pakistan et al doesn’t mean Russia, China or the European Union follow suit.


40 posted on 01/07/2013 6:42:52 PM PST by Olog-hai
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