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After the Fall: What Do You Do When You Conclude America Is (Temporarily or Permanently) Kaput?
Pajamas Media ^ | 01/07/2013 | Barry Rubin

Posted on 01/07/2013 3:35:29 PM PST by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 01/07/2013 3:35:33 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind; Kartographer

maybe we will end up with 300+ different kingdoms/fiefdoms/etc.


2 posted on 01/07/2013 3:38:07 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: SeekAndFind

I think us “Red Staters” who aren’t in the major cities will be fine.

The Leftist elites on the coasts and in the urban areas will eat each other though.


3 posted on 01/07/2013 3:42:04 PM PST by Shadow44
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To: Shadow44
I think us “Red Staters” who aren’t in the major cities will be fine.

That's pretty much what my grandmother said about the depression when my niece asked her about it last week. Granny said that aside from the dust bowl region it didn't affect rural people all that much.
4 posted on 01/07/2013 3:47:23 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: GeronL
I'll keep living life. I just ordered seeds for spring, I'd like to get the tobacco started a month earlier this year, and the ground isn't going to till itself for the rest of the garden. Still have to finish the mud brick bread oven. I've got cured pork that needs to get smoked in the next couple of weeks.

Beer don't brew itself, I've got that chore, too.

Bread has to be made every few days, if I want to eat. That's with or without a functional government.

If it all goes south, I'll see it as a tax holiday until the next protection racket/shakedown mob... er... government comes along.

/johnny

5 posted on 01/07/2013 3:47:49 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: SeekAndFind
"What would Washington do if massive repression breaks out in Egypt with the massacre of Christians?"

Send more money and an attaboy while making sure that the MSM reporting is understated or absent? Oh wait, I think he already is.

6 posted on 01/07/2013 3:51:42 PM PST by Truth29
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To: JRandomFreeper

bump


7 posted on 01/07/2013 3:54:42 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: SeekAndFind

If Texeas secedes, I’m moving there.


8 posted on 01/07/2013 3:55:35 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: SeekAndFind

It is the Judgement of God, from a Nation that served God to a Godless nation, our cup will be filled with the poisonous swill we turned to and we will be made to drink deeply. The United States, once a free country where a man could serve God, is now a Totaliarian slave State where worship of anything but God is promoted. This country is the Titanic, and the media is playing music in the dining room.

Come out of Babylon my children...


9 posted on 01/07/2013 3:57:41 PM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Shadow44

“I think us “Red Staters” who aren’t in the major cities will be fine.”

Me too. Red states will be the place to be. Have to pull any money one might have before the collapse and convert to gold.


10 posted on 01/07/2013 4:06:55 PM PST by y6162
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To: SeekAndFind

I think your analysis and conclusion are well done. Personally, I believe America has been killed. The leadership vacuum will ultimately result in likely global conflict. The US will be especially vulnerable and suffer greatly. In other words, do not plan on growing old gracefully.


11 posted on 01/07/2013 4:10:44 PM PST by Wpin ("I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny...")
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To: SeekAndFind

Compared to “The Great Vacation” of the 30’s?


12 posted on 01/07/2013 4:17:07 PM PST by Morris70
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To: cripplecreek
Granny said that aside from the dust bowl region it didn't affect rural people all that much.

Back in the mid '50s-'60s I was a tramp printer, with a new job every few months. (Was trying to get a drivers license from every state in the Union. (Seemed like a good idea at the time)) Gave it up when Hawaii and Alaska came in.

I made it a point to talk with the Old Timers re: the Depression. The general theme was that while they didn't have any money, those on farms made out OK as far as food and shelter went. For the city folks, it was a different story.

13 posted on 01/07/2013 4:21:34 PM PST by Oatka (This is America. Assimilate or evaporate.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I highly recommend stocking up on beans and bullets. If you think you have enough buy somemore.


14 posted on 01/07/2013 4:28:21 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Oatka

As my grandmother pointed out, you can’t miss what you never had. All they had was a radio for the whole family anyway. People fixed things when they broke and didn’t spend a lot of time worrying about buying things they couldn’t afford.

My great grandmother used to say “There’ll be wind pudding if the crops don’t come in.” Meaning that she would feed me but only after I did the chores.


15 posted on 01/07/2013 4:31:20 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Oatka
The general theme was that while they didn't have any money, those on farms made out OK as far as food and shelter went. For the city folks, it was a different story.

Yep. Mom and dad were small but remembered it and told us stories about it
. Moms parents had a farm. They didn't have everything they wanted, but had everything they needed.
Dad lived in a city. Every day they stood in line for government beets and butter flavored lard. Every day they ate beets and lard. That's all the government had to offer them. That's all they had to eat.

16 posted on 01/07/2013 4:32:27 PM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: BenLurkin

I would suspect you wouldn’t be allowed, and many there now will be pushed out


17 posted on 01/07/2013 4:35:16 PM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: JRandomFreeper
Sounds like my fellow American life style I love! I too raise tobacco and I don't smoke, but, know many who do! We raise ducks for their eggs, and food. Cut our own firewood, and can produce our own electricity if needed!

Never have needed the government, don't need them now either! Any city slickers venturing out to look for food had better not come sneaking onto my private property! If someone is truly hungry and is in need of food and shelter, I can and will provide in return for some hard work! No honest American will be turned away, but, the help will come with hard work!

DO NOT EVEN THINK ABOUT ENTERING THE PROPERTY AFTER O DARK THIRTY!

18 posted on 01/07/2013 4:36:08 PM PST by paratrooper82 (82nd ABN Div. 1/508th BN "Fiery From the Sky")
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To: JRandomFreeper

That’s a great post right there.
I’m not nearly as far along as you, but I am slowly but surely moving in a similar direction. Got gardens and chickens, guns and ammo, a big dog, a stream and a well, oil lamps and oil, a nice big cast-iron wood stove with cooktop, plenty of parks and woods loaded with deer, turkey, and critters, some supplies...

It’s a lot of work, but it’s a labor of love.


19 posted on 01/07/2013 4:42:15 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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I've been living like I live for years. It's not prepping so much as normal life that my great grandmother would have understood.

Except for the laptops and ZZ Top music.

/johnny

20 posted on 01/07/2013 4:50:00 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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