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Newt Gingrich: GOP Should Consider A Government Shutdown, It Works
RCP ^ | 01/07/2013

Posted on 01/07/2013 7:24:27 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: Hoodat; thatjoeguy

“When Noot was Speaker, he didn’t have the balls to shut the government down. After Clinton shut it down, Noot allowed Clinton to place all the blame on him. If Noot had been worth a damn, he would have told Clinton, “Damn right I shut it down. And everyone can see now that all that money you spend serves no critical purpose”. But no, instead Noot shows what a weak ass he is and immediately increases the debt ceiling for Slick while getting absolutely nothing in return.”

Good call. Big Media blamed Republicans for shutting down the government when the Great Clinton did it. Newtie takes responsibility when it’s politically expedient for him to do so.

Thatjoeguy: What do you have besides talking down to posters here to defend Newtie?


41 posted on 01/07/2013 10:16:36 AM PST by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: SeekAndFind
I'd shut it down to fight my principles is what he is saying. Can't take away the baby's bottle to find a better one. How can one improve the government if we can't stop the spending. Stop the spending and re organize. Our government up there needs rebuilding and starting over/cutting departments and waste/firing people that do nothing all day that 20 or 50 depts. are hired to do one job. It's a corrupt system and nothing is working as is. Keep programs that do work. We all balance our books, why can't they!

This is becoming too often from the same posters. Newt left the speakership because his lieutenants ( people that he help to bring on with the positive agenda) were worried that they would loose their jobs since the media went after Newt for impeaching their tool for their agenda Bill/the real woman chaser. More important, the big liar. It was pay back. He wrote a book. He taught a traditional history class. O My word! That was all it was. He was punished by some followers for his marriage problems. He has never blamed the standard of right and wrong for his sins. Why can't we get that settled.

He could have hidden in a room and not said to his lieutenants ( Like Santorium) don't pursue Clinton's lying under oath. He went after Clinton when they said..we must stop or we can suffer political damage. Who admires that. Clinton is a disgrace. Now, people build him up like he's all that. Clinton's appeasement and failures brought 9/11 and his hag wife, made sure her media and Bill's help to put the pressure on Newt to leave. You guys want change then complain someone speaks tough. Clinton did change due to Newt. Now, Obama has turned it all back around. Thanks in part to the weak republicans as he is saying. ( I will never forget Clinton what he did and did not do in Kosovo. He should be in prison IMO.) Now he's walking around like some freaking statesman. Same stupid/agenda driven people now build him up along with his corrupt wife.. and some are worried about Newt. Grow up and stop rewriting history. Let the government be helped for reforms.

42 posted on 01/07/2013 10:17:08 AM PST by Christie at the beach (I like Newt. Our nation's foundation is under attack.)
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To: SeekAndFind
What is it we want? To win politically, or what’s good for the country?

You are correct but you will be labeled an extremest ideologue that cannot compromise.

44 posted on 01/07/2013 10:19:16 AM PST by frogjerk (Obama Claus is coming to town!)
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To: PauldArco

Which clown SHOULD we listen to, in your opinion ?


45 posted on 01/07/2013 10:19:56 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: DManA

“It only blew up because the liberal faction of his own party set out to destroy him. He was being too effective.”

And they have kept conservatives excluded or ineffectual within the GOP ever since.

As intended.


46 posted on 01/07/2013 10:23:49 AM PST by Psalm 144 (Capitol to the districts: "May the odds be ever in your favor.")
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To: Hoodat
We haven't had a balanced budget since 1957. I don't think Noot was Speaker back then.

I'll take the budget "deficits" (note the quotes) under Clinton (which the Congress under Newt was responsible for) over any other.


47 posted on 01/07/2013 10:29:22 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: Hoodat

48 posted on 01/07/2013 10:30:19 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: Christie at the beach

Sorry for the double posts. Mod, you can remove one.

I wrote in to ask.


49 posted on 01/07/2013 10:34:59 AM PST by Christie at the beach (I like Newt. Our nation's foundation is under attack.)
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To: knarf

People can say what they want, Newt would have made a great President. He should have been our candidate.


50 posted on 01/07/2013 11:11:56 AM PST by jehardy (Bearing arms is not just my right, it's my duty.)
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To: jehardy

“People can say what they want, Newt would have made a great President. He should have been our candidate.”

I’m beginning to think FR has jumped the shark.

We seem to be about as politically divided as the country, with one substantial proportion virtually indistinguishable from most leftist Hussein Head Democrats.


51 posted on 01/07/2013 11:55:19 AM PST by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: SeekAndFind
This from the Treasury Department:

09/28/1990 3,233,313,451,777.25
09/30/1991 3,665,303,351,697.03
09/30/1992 4,064,620,655,521.66
09/30/1993 4,411,488,883,139.38
09/30/1994 4,692,749,910,013.32
09/29/1995 4,973,982,900,709.39
09/30/1996 5,224,810,939,135.73
09/30/1997 5,413,146,011,397.34
09/30/1998 5,526,193,008,897.62
09/30/1999 5,656,270,901,615.43

As you can see, our total debt increased every single year during the 90s. The budget was never in balance. There was never any surplus.

52 posted on 01/07/2013 12:06:54 PM PST by Hoodat ("As for God, His way is perfect" - Psalm 18:30)
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To: thatjoeguy
(why they hate him I don’t know)

You read why right here and yet you refuse to see it. That is a liberal trait that seems strange to FreePers.

Pointing out the faults in a person does not mean they hate them, just that they under stand their shortcomings.

53 posted on 01/07/2013 12:40:09 PM PST by itsahoot (Any enemy, that is allowed to have a King's X line, is undefeatable. (USS Taluga AO-62))
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To: SeekAndFind

Thanks for the input. Sad that we are broke. I still believe that if we attack and package it properly we can win the day.


54 posted on 01/07/2013 4:58:31 PM PST by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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To: apillar
The sad thing is that Clinton Whitehouse insiders have said that Clinton had decided to give Newt most of the cuts he was asking for and was drawing up the plan, when the Republican's blinked first. We might very well be in a much better financial situation today if Newt would have held out another week and got the serious cuts he wanted.

Ughh... I was not aware of that, but I do clearly remember smiling that we finally had Clinton on the ropes, and then feeling my jaw crash to the floor when Gingrich inexplicably caved.

The only people who care about "government shutdowns" are the moochers who vote Democrat anyway.
SHUT IT DOWN.

55 posted on 01/07/2013 5:09:07 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Vigilanteman
In 1998 Republicans lost five seats in the House . . . . . . which made a convenient excuse to ride Newt out of the speakership when zipper control was the real reason.

Yup. If losing five seats in the House was itself enough to cost Gingrich the Speaker's gavel, Boehner would be gone by now.

56 posted on 01/07/2013 5:27:27 PM PST by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: Buckeye McFrog
Republicans forced a balanced budget and the welfare reform act of 1996. They gained two Senate seats in the next election (1996) and retained control of the House with the loss of only a couple seats. Not exactly getting totally blown up.
57 posted on 01/07/2013 9:09:59 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: SeekAndFind

These so-called “balanced budgets” were complete illusions. If they had been real, our debt would have disappeared during the Bush years when we had both the Congress and the WH for 6 years. Newt did nothing to repeal the Clinton tax hikes, his budgets were very little different from Clinton’s, and included the kind of pork that allowed Clinton (to whom Repubs gave the line item veto) to score political points against selectively targetted Repub budget excesses (never, of course, Dem excesses).

We had real chance to kill the Clinton mythology and to get real balanced budgets. We blew it. Newt was on record attacking the Ryan plan, that should have told you everything about Newt.


58 posted on 01/08/2013 9:51:56 AM PST by PauldArco
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To: sickoflibs
I think he made some other good points on this...

He did indeed.

But you have those who hear only what they want to hear and nothing else.



59 posted on 01/09/2013 7:22:25 PM PST by rdb3 (We're all going to get what only some of us deserve...)
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To: rdb3

Newt comes up with plenty of bombs, like now he says the GOP should repeal DOMA, but sometimes he comes up with some good ideas like the ones here,

He knows first hand how easy it is to get trapped in one of these budget-shutdown fights and have public opinion turn against him and has had plenty of time, almost 20 years to consider this sproblem..


60 posted on 01/09/2013 10:16:52 PM PST by sickoflibs (Losing to O is NO principle!)
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