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10 surprising quotes from abortionists
liveactionnews ^ | January 5, 2013 | Lauren Enriquez

Posted on 01/06/2013 1:32:20 PM PST by NYer

They’re threatened by informed consent. They’re traumatized by the limp body parts they look at every day. They’re torn by the contradiction that they became doctors to preserve life but use their profession to end it. Here are some eye-opening confessions from current and former abortionists.


They [the women] are never allowed to look at the ultrasound because we knew that if they so much as heard the heart beat, they wouldn’t want to have an abortion. –Dr. Randall, former abortionist

Even now I feel a little peculiar about it, because as a physician I was trained to conserve life, and here I am destroying it. -Dr. Benjamin Kalish, abortionist

You have to become a bit schizophrenic. In one room, you encourage the patient that the slight irregularity in the fetal heart is not important, that she is going to have a fine, healthy baby. Then, in the next room you assure another woman, on whom you just did a saline abortion, that it is a good thing that the heartbeat is already irregular… she has nothing to worry about, she will NOT have a live baby… All of a sudden one noticed that at the time of the saline infusion there was a lot of activity in the uterus. That’s not fluid currents. That’s obviously the fetus being distressed by swallowing the concentrated salt solution and kicking violently and that’s to all intents and purposes, the death trauma… somebody has to do it, and unfortunately we are the executioners in this instance[.] -Dr. Szenes, abortionist

Telling those women their fetuses feel pain is heaping torment upon torment. These women have real pain. They did not come to this decision easily. Creating another barrier for them to get the medical care they need is really unfair. –Abortionist Dave Turok

forecepts

Foreceps.

This is why I hate overuse of forceps – things tear. There are only two kinds of doctors who have never perforated a uterus, those that lie and those who don’t do abortions. Anonymous Abortionist

I got to where I couldn’t stand to look at the little bodies anymore. -Dr. Beverly McMillan, former abortionist

I think in many ways I’ve been lucky to have been part of this. If I hadn’t gotten involved, I would have gone through life probably being perfectly satisfied to go to the medical society parties and it would have been very, very dull. I would have been bored silly. -Dr. Jane Hodgson, late abortionist

Sorrow, quite apart from the sense of shame, is exhibited in some way by virtually every woman for whom I performed an abortion, and that’s 20,000 as of 1995. The sorrow is revealed by the fact that most women cry at some point during the experience… The grieving process may last from several days to several years… Grief is sometimes delayed… The grief may lie sublimated and dormant for years. -Dr. Susan Poppema, abortionist

If I see a case…after twenty weeks, where it frankly is a child to me, I really agonize over it because the potential is so imminently there…On the other hand, I have another position, which I think is superior in the hierarchy of questions, and that is “who owns this child?” It’s got to be the mother. -Dr. James MacMahon, abortionist

We know that it’s killing, but the state permits killing under certain circumstances. -Dr. Neville Sender, abortionist


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: abortion; abortionists; medicine; prolife
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1 posted on 01/06/2013 1:32:24 PM PST by NYer
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To: wagglebee; little jeremiah; narses
somebody has to do it, and unfortunately we are the executioners in this instance.

And there it is ... recognition of their actual role.

2 posted on 01/06/2013 1:34:31 PM PST by NYer ("Before I formed you in the womb I knew you." --Jeremiah 1:5)
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To: NYer

I can barely read this monstrous crap.

Who owns this child? GOD!

Shame on all.


3 posted on 01/06/2013 1:34:43 PM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: NYer

Abortions pay so very well, for a so short period of time.

Then there is Hell to pay.

The woman starts her hell on earth.


4 posted on 01/06/2013 1:37:35 PM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: NYer

This is exactly what the Nazi death camp operators said.


5 posted on 01/06/2013 1:40:49 PM PST by jimbobfoster
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To: NYer
If I remember correctly McMahon was one of the abortionists who came up with the partial birth abortion technique. I believe he is dead.

His colleague Martin Haskill was the other butcher.

6 posted on 01/06/2013 1:44:03 PM PST by willibeaux (de ole Korean War vet age 83)
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To: NYer

Monsters.... May God have mercy on their souls...

Remember most democrats support this and enable mass murder of the innocents


8 posted on 01/06/2013 1:49:04 PM PST by JZoback
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To: NYer; Reaganite Republican; Clintons Are White Trash; HerrBlucher; mgist; raptor22; victim soul; ...
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9 posted on 01/06/2013 1:49:52 PM PST by narses
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10 posted on 01/06/2013 1:50:38 PM PST by narses
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To: NYer

The is an old saying that goes something like this: The Devil has not yet come up with a punishment suitable for someone that willingly harms a child. We all will stand in front of that Great White Throne.


11 posted on 01/06/2013 1:54:00 PM PST by Citizen Tom Paine (An old sailor sends)
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To: willibeaux

The irony of abortions in the US is that most are black. The other irony is that world wide women are aborting GIRLS.


12 posted on 01/06/2013 1:56:53 PM PST by Citizen Tom Paine (An old sailor sends)
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To: NYer

I remember speaking to one father outside the abortion mill who said, “Yeah, I know it’s murder. Everybody knows it’s murder.” He and the mother went ahead with the abortion.


13 posted on 01/06/2013 1:57:02 PM PST by Faith
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To: NYer

...we are the executioners in this instance.

In this instance.

How soon before they expand their “instances” to include others besides the Innocents?


14 posted on 01/06/2013 1:58:43 PM PST by Paisan
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To: JZoback
Monsters.... May Satan get to TORTURE their souls for all eternity...

Remember, Progressives and most DemocRATS support this and enable mass murder of the innocents, surpassing the murder scale of Nazi's during the Holocaust.

15 posted on 01/06/2013 2:00:32 PM PST by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: Citizen Tom Paine
The irony of abortions in the US is that most are black.

That's not accurate. The percentage of abortions performed for black women is greater than their percentage in the population, but in basic numbers, most abortions are for white women, because there are vastly more white women in the population.

In a similar way, although a larger percentage of black women than of white women are welfare recipients, "most" in simple numbers are white, because whites are make up a much larger share of the population.

16 posted on 01/06/2013 2:03:01 PM PST by Tax-chick (The paint is in the basket with the skulls in there. Don't tell me you can't find it!)
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To: JZoback

That is why you can never ever trust a Democrat. If a person can mold their conscience to accept and acquiesce to this wanton killing of human life, then they are quite capable of any transgression. Also will minorities ever catch on to the fact that liberals situate most abortion clinics in minority neighborhoods.


17 posted on 01/06/2013 2:04:13 PM PST by allendale
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To: American in Israel

So very well put, in just a few sentences.


18 posted on 01/06/2013 2:10:24 PM PST by supremedoctrine
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To: allendale

That is why you can never ever trust a Democrat.
That is why you can never ever trust a Democrat.
That is why you can never ever trust a Democrat.

Worth repeating. Again and again.

That is why you can never ever trust a Democrat.
That is why you can never ever trust a Democrat.
That is why you can never ever trust a Democrat.

That is why you can never ever trust a Democrat.
That is why you can never ever trust a Democrat.
That is why you can never ever trust a Democrat.


19 posted on 01/06/2013 2:11:01 PM PST by narses
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To: Faith
I remember speaking to one father outside the abortion mill who said, “Yeah, I know it’s murder. Everybody knows it’s murder.” He and the mother went ahead with the abortion.

Abortion is immediately a 'quick & convenient' solution. It haunts them, though, for the rest of their lives. Far easier to put on a smiley face and justify their actions as being sanctioned by the state. They will rarely admit it but the guilt and shame of what they have done burns within. Worse yet, it hardens their hearts, because they cannot forgive themselves.

20 posted on 01/06/2013 2:13:37 PM PST by NYer ("Before I formed you in the womb I knew you." --Jeremiah 1:5)
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To: NYer
Long story short...during my tenure as an assistant in the Pathology Department of a major hospital I once saw a container with four of five fetuses inside.It was before Roe v Wade so I assume they were stillborn.What I saw in that container is seared into my memory 40+ years later.Images of what I saw should be displayed in front of every abortion mill and if they were about 95% of this nation's abortionists would be forced to switch to doing liposuctions within weeks.
21 posted on 01/06/2013 2:23:51 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (When Robbing Peter To Pay Paul,One Can Always Count On Paul's Cooperation)
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To: NYer

WoW!


22 posted on 01/06/2013 2:25:18 PM PST by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
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To: allendale

-——That is why you can never ever trust a Democrat. If a person can mold their conscience to accept and acquiesce to this wanton killing of human life, then they are quite capable of any transgression———

Could not have said it better...


23 posted on 01/06/2013 2:32:27 PM PST by JZoback
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To: Gay State Conservative
IMHO, abortion was legalized and sanctioned, not to address unwanted pregnancies but, as a government solution to population growth. Did they consider the ramifications that would result from a reduced population like, fewer taxpayers to support the growing demand for social benefits? No. If anything, the government factored in the increased use of automation to justify the reduction in manual labor. It also reduced the demand on farming solutions, et al.

What you saw in that container that day, was the government's solution to worldwide hunger. Abortion is now used, worldwide, to reduce the demands on government food programs. In their view, they only need to get past the baby boomer generation before they can declare themselves free and clear of future interlopers.

We, as christians, know better.

24 posted on 01/06/2013 3:22:12 PM PST by NYer ("Before I formed you in the womb I knew you." --Jeremiah 1:5)
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To: NYer

I’ve seen websites where abortionists talk about abortion. They acknowledge that they are murderers; they know that they aren’t helping the women whose babies they are killing, yet they continue to kill. They know perfectly well that their clients are using abortion as a primary method of birth control, and some abortionists have even expressed their anger at these women for getting pregnant and putting the abortionists in the position of committing abortions, yet they do nothing to educate these women. With their understanding of the issue of abortion, they could do so much to decrease its occurrence, but they don’t. I guess, in the long run, the lure of easy money is more compelling than their consciences.


25 posted on 01/06/2013 3:31:28 PM PST by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: Citizen Tom Paine

The real War On Women.


26 posted on 01/06/2013 4:03:25 PM PST by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: exDemMom

I’m confused by your post. What EXACTLY do you want the abortioniststo do to educate patients & reduce the number of abortions?

I assume you are aware the majority of women seeking abortions were contracepting at the time they got pregnant? Contraception is a lie, so don’t even try to run that jive by me.


27 posted on 01/06/2013 4:29:50 PM PST by surroundedbyblue (I once saw a movie where only the police & military had guns. It was called "Schindler's List")
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To: NYer
You may well be correct in your assumptions when speaking of Third World nations.And yes,for the record I most certainly consider China to be Third World.However,in prosperous Western countries abortion is all about hedonism,narcissism,amorality and a breathtaking selfishness.”My goodness,I got high that night and woke up next to this guy whose name I still don't know.And now I'm pregnant.I can't *possibly* have a child right now because finals are coming up and I've dreamed of being a personal injury lawyer since I was nine”.
28 posted on 01/06/2013 4:32:20 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (When Robbing Peter To Pay Paul,One Can Always Count On Paul's Cooperation)
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To: JZoback

When a supposed ‘’civilized’’ society can sanction killing it’s children in the womb then that society is on the fast track to it’s own extermination.


29 posted on 01/06/2013 4:32:56 PM PST by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: NYer
They will rarely admit it but the guilt and shame of what they have done burns within.

Jesus Christ is their only Answer. We have a few women who have had abortions and they come to the mill to try to convince others to avoid the heartache and suffering they have endured. Some of these ladies have suffered for nearly 40 years with the "choice" they made. It truly is a decision that lasts a lifetime. 81% of post-abortive women have mental problems. Many attempt suicide when they realize they cannot drown the memory of what they have done. Only through Jesus can they be forgiven and also learn to forgive themselves.

30 posted on 01/06/2013 5:47:47 PM PST by Faith
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To: NYer
Second Trimester Survivor...



Life Scout, Black Belt, Violist, Honor Student, Loved Child
31 posted on 01/06/2013 7:01:51 PM PST by wizwor
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To: NYer

Out of sight. Out of mind.


32 posted on 01/06/2013 7:07:47 PM PST by Darren McCarty (If most people were more than keyboard warriors, we might have won the election)
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To: wizwor

I’m either a late 2nd or early 3rd survivor.


33 posted on 01/06/2013 7:11:32 PM PST by Darren McCarty (If most people were more than keyboard warriors, we might have won the election)
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To: Darren McCarty

Thank your mother. They give you a thousand reasons to let nature run its course. When my wife would not consent to putting the baby on a morphine drip after birth (let it starve to death), a doctor took me to a private room to reason. He said she was irrational and that the baby would be a burden for the family — especially his older brother. I was irrational too. Now they are playing violent video games in the next room.


34 posted on 01/06/2013 7:15:40 PM PST by wizwor
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To: wizwor

That was 35 years ago at a Catholic hospital. My mom is extremely pro-life. I was lucky. No major problems. I’m short for my family of 6’5 giants, but that was it.


35 posted on 01/06/2013 7:30:57 PM PST by Darren McCarty (If most people were more than keyboard warriors, we might have won the election)
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To: surroundedbyblue
I’m confused by your post. What EXACTLY do you want the abortioniststo do to educate patients & reduce the number of abortions?

They can stop lying to their clients (NOT patients), for one thing. Instead of telling them that the baby is a mass of formless tissue (or whatever the exact lie they say), they can simply tell the truth. Why do you think there are efforts to force abortionists to show their clients the pre-abortion ultrasounds? Simply educating women would do a LOT to help to decrease the number of abortions. The number of women using abortion as their primary method of birth control would probably drop drastically.

I assume you are aware the majority of women seeking abortions were contracepting at the time they got pregnant? Contraception is a lie, so don’t even try to run that jive by me.

I understand very well why the abortion industry spreads the untruth that contraceptives don't work--anything they can do to discourage the use of contraceptives increases their profits. I have never understood why people who call themselves pro-life want to spread the same untruth.

I once saw where The Alan Guttmacher institute--which has a strong profit motive in promoting abortion--estimated that ~75% of those who abort were not using contraceptives. And that number is probably low, because it is counterproductive when promoting abortion to admit that the majority of pregnancies that end in abortion result from irresponsible behavior. That's because people are a lot more tolerant of someone having an abortion if they think she did everything possible to avoid pregnancy. Out of the many abortions I personally know of or have read about, I have *never* seen one that was committed because contraceptives failed.

36 posted on 01/06/2013 7:51:39 PM PST by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: exDemMom

You only abort unwanted children - if you’re using contraception anytime it fails, all children are unwanted. Ergo - contraception changes the mentality.


37 posted on 01/06/2013 11:37:15 PM PST by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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To: exDemMom

You only abort unwanted children - if you’re using contraception anytime it fails, all children are unwanted. Ergo - contraception changes the mentality.


38 posted on 01/07/2013 12:04:05 AM PST by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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To: JCBreckenridge
You only abort unwanted children - if you’re using contraception anytime it fails, all children are unwanted. Ergo - contraception changes the mentality.

Most abortion clients were not using contraceptives at the time they got pregnant. Thus, even though they may not have wanted the child, it was still a planned pregnancy.

A little bit of education about pregnancy would go a long ways towards combatting the attitude that it's okay to be irresponsible because everything can be "taken care of" via abortion.

39 posted on 01/07/2013 4:40:15 AM PST by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: exDemMom

I don’t know where you got your stat on the 75%, but from Guttmacher’s own website, 54% of women obtaining abortion services were contraception when they got pregnant. As far as the abortion industry discouraging contraceptive use, I have never, ever witnessed that. All abortion clinics in my local phone book offer free conforms, prescriptions for birth control pills, and the morning after pill.

Your thoughts on this are way off. How do you explain widespread use of BCPs and IUDs yet we still abort over 1 million children in this country every year?? Contraception is not fail-safe and it is a lie. It’s the real war on women. Wake up.


40 posted on 01/07/2013 6:55:45 AM PST by surroundedbyblue (I once saw a movie where only the police & military had guns. It was called "Schindler's List")
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To: exDemMom
and some abortionists have even expressed their anger at these women for getting pregnant and putting the abortionists in the position of committing abortions

That's absurd and demonic. "Putting the abortionist in the position of committing abortions"??? Really? That's straight out of Genesis. "It's her fault!"

How 'bout the recipient of a Medical Doctor degree tell the woman "No. Abortion is murder. I DON'T DO THAT!"

41 posted on 01/07/2013 7:03:18 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: exDemMom

“Thus, even though they may not have wanted the child, it was still a planned pregnancy.”

Which is why Roe only came about after the Lambeth conference, and not before.

May I ask how do you define contraception? What things count?


42 posted on 01/07/2013 8:05:04 AM PST by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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To: ArrogantBustard
and some abortionists have even expressed their anger at these women for getting pregnant and putting the abortionists in the position of committing abortions

That's absurd and demonic. "Putting the abortionist in the position of committing abortions"??? Really? That's straight out of Genesis. "It's her fault!"

How 'bout the recipient of a Medical Doctor degree tell the woman "No. Abortion is murder. I DON'T DO THAT!"

Perhaps I wasn't clear, so I will clarify: the bit about being put into the position of having to commit abortions was paraphrased from an abortionist's own words. Other abortionists expressed the sentiment that they didn't like what they were doing, but since women keep getting pregnant with "unwanted" children, if they didn't do the abortions, someone else would.

I see quite a bit of cognitive dissonance there. On the one hand, a number of abortionists seemed filled with self-loathing and disgust for their clients, but on the other hand, they aggressively market abortion. I honestly do not think they are sane. Any ethical physician, of course, stays far away from the sordid abortion industry.

43 posted on 01/07/2013 5:29:58 PM PST by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: surroundedbyblue
I don’t know where you got your stat on the 75%, but from Guttmacher’s own website, 54% of women obtaining abortion services were contraception when they got pregnant. As far as the abortion industry discouraging contraceptive use, I have never, ever witnessed that. All abortion clinics in my local phone book offer free conforms, prescriptions for birth control pills, and the morning after pill.

The stat was from Guttmacher institute. They used to have their own "medical journal" where they would publish results of their "research." If the number is now 54% claim to have been using contraception, I doubt that it reflects a real change in contraceptive use. Most likely, it represents a higher number making that claim.

Abortion mills do not openly discourage contraceptive use; their discouragement is far more subtle. I'll use the example of a Planned Parenthood representative who came to my high school--this took place in the 1970s, but I have no reason to think the advertising pitch has significantly changed. It was a four-part approach.

One part is to scoff at the idea that a growing fetus is alive, to give the impression that believing life exists in the womb is equivalent to believing in the Easter bunny. The purpose of this part is clear: selling abortion becomes significantly more difficult if actual facts about the unborn child were discussed.

The next two parts go hand-in-hand. First, the unreliability of contraceptives is stressed. That is meant to give the impression that it's not worth bothering with them. Second, the danger of contraceptives is discussed in great detail, effectively exaggerating the perception of risk involved. So the recipients of this contraceptive "information" walk away believing that contraceptives don't prevent pregnancy, and they could kill you.

The last part was to stress how safe abortion is, and even claim health benefits from having late-term abortions.

A few other lies were tied in with this discouragement of contraceptive use. What was clear was that this woman was hard-selling abortion. Well, it wasn't clear at the time, but with maturity came insight into what was really going on there.

Your thoughts on this are way off. How do you explain widespread use of BCPs and IUDs yet we still abort over 1 million children in this country every year?? Contraception is not fail-safe and it is a lie. It’s the real war on women. Wake up.

I'm awake. The numbers of children being aborted have been dropping since the 90s. During the Obama administration, they've dropped even faster. The CDC attributed that to the bad economy: women can't afford to get pregnant, so they are actually using contraceptives more.

Also, another strong indication that abortion is a result of lack of contraceptive use is the wide disparity in abortion rates between different races. If these pregnancies were resulting from contraceptive failure, then the abortion rates would be the same regardless of race.

I genuinely do not understand why a self-proclaimed pro-lifer would want to discourage contraceptive use. Do you really expect women to remain virgins, or to only have physical relations with their husbands only when they actively want a baby? Doesn't that seem a bit unrealistic?

44 posted on 01/07/2013 6:16:46 PM PST by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: JCBreckenridge
May I ask how do you define contraception? What things count?

Just about any clinically tested method: the pill, IUD, condoms/spermicide foam, diaphragm/spermicide foam, the implants... I may be missing a couple of methods here, but there are a number to choose from. Of course, there are also the permanent methods.

I specifically do NOT include folk methods. I hate to say it, but the rhythm method is hardly any more effective than using nothing.

45 posted on 01/07/2013 6:22:13 PM PST by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: onyx

Years ago I had a discussion with my Dad about women not being property of their husbands (a man had killed another man having an affair with his wife, and then proceeded to beat the woman pretty severely). The discussion went along the lines of humans don’t own other humans.

Can you imagine, in today’s enlightened age, if a husband were allowed to kill his wife, as he owns her? Or parents allowed to kill their living children, as they own them? Seriously. But we justify aborting unborn children because the woman “owns” the child? Wow.


46 posted on 01/07/2013 6:35:57 PM PST by ican'tbelieveit (School is prison for children who have commited the crime of being born. (attr: St_Thomas_Aquinas))
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To: exDemMom
Perhaps I wasn't clear, so I will clarify: the bit about being put into the position of having to commit abortions was paraphrased from an abortionist's own words.

Oh, no, you were quite clear ... the abortionists you quoted/paraphrased are blaming the 'client' for 'forcing' them to commit the abortion. It's appalling.

I see quite a bit of cognitive dissonance there.

Yes, quite, and well put. The abortion industry seems to be filled with every possible species of hate.

47 posted on 01/07/2013 6:58:56 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: exDemMom

Then you support abortifacients. Abortifacients aren’t contraceptives at all, because they don’t prevent conception - they cause an early term abortion.


48 posted on 01/08/2013 1:49:28 AM PST by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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To: JCBreckenridge
Then you support abortifacients. Abortifacients aren’t contraceptives at all, because they don’t prevent conception - they cause an early term abortion.

Every method I mentioned prevents pregnancy. All but one prevent fertilization. The exception is the IUD, which prevents implantation. I think there is a *huge* difference between preventing implantation (of a blastocyst consisting of a few formless cells) and abortion (of an embryo containing all of its body parts, who can feel and maybe move, depending on how far developed it is).

49 posted on 01/08/2013 4:57:07 AM PST by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: exDemMom
The pill often acts as an abotifacient, since it causes thinning of the uterine lining, thus preventing implantation of fertilized eggs. This is why, in 1973, the AMA changed the definition of conception from fertilization to implantation, so that the pill wouldn't be classified as an abortifacient.

They Never Told Us That Our Birth Control May be Killing Our Pre-Born Children

50 posted on 01/08/2013 10:24:29 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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