Posted on 01/06/2013 8:14:00 AM PST by wintertime
Youtube video: 7:05
This video is well worth the time.
John Taylor Gatto-The Purpose of Schooling
So?....With the government schools becoming increasingly more prison-like,( and with children literally be arrested for behavior that was once seen as a learning opportunity and handled within the school), do John Gatto's comments ring true? I think they do.
If children attend the government's godless prison-like schools and are treated like state prisoners within the prison-like compounds, they risk learning to be comfortable with being state prisoners. The continuation of government schooling has, and will have, evil consequences for the child and for the future of our nation. What will be the consequences in the voting booth?
Please...Conservatives! Wake up! We must begin the process of privatizing universal K-12 education. It is **urgent**!!! We must work toward complete separation of school and state. NOW!
Finally....I consider government schooling to be so evil for the child and such a threat to our nation that I have made a decision. I will not have a government school worker for a friend. They are too evil, too stupid, or too much of a well meaning but very befuddled Useful Idiot to be a friend. This is my personal decision.
(Excerpt) Read more at youtube.com ...
This is the first time I have heard John Gatto’s voice. This video is **excellent**.
Once again - opinion being pawned off as “news” and not even a description of the purported video.
I don’t do you tube videos as they eat up far too much of my limited bandwidth - and I most especially do not look at them without any clue of the content ahead of time.
Government schooling can not be defended. It is a socialist, single-payer, compulsory-use, compulsory-funded, and godless socialist entitlement backed by the threat of armed police and court threat. It never has been,( nor is it now), religiously, culturally, or politically neutral. These tax-funded government prison-like and godless schools are a First Amendment and freedom of conscience abomination.
Treating children, whose only crime was to be born, like state prisoners can not be defended, It can not be reformed. I consider it to be evil for the child and a threat to the future of our nation.
So....Government school defenders, please feel free to comment on this thread. Please feel free to use my name freely, and to comment on my posts, but please do not ping me or send private mail. I'd rather not have that clutter up my ping and private mail lists.
If you choose to ping me or send private mail, you will receive a polite request from me not to do so.
I have made a decision. To engage those defending an abomination is to give the abomination a veneer of legitimacy.
Government schooling can not be defended.
nothing more than a personal opinion, which has been shown time after time, after time.
Treating children, whose only crime was to be born, like state prisoners can not be defended, It can not be reformed.
Hyperbolic personal opinion.
I consider it to be evil for the child and a threat to the future of our nation.
See above......
If you choose to ping me or send private mail, you will receive a polite request from me not to do so.
In other words she has nothing to back up nor defend her own hyperbole, rhetoric, and personal opinion.
I have made a decision.
So have the rest of us.
To engage those defending an abomination is to give the abomination a veneer of legitimacy.
To point out personal opinion that is nothing more than ad hom attacks, personal slurs, and often outright lies is something all conscientious folks must do.
Oh - and the misuse of the ""news" segment of FR for that which belongs in "personal/bloggers" will continue to be pointed out whenever necessary (which lately has been every new posting by the creator of this thread.)
I recommend you get Gatto’s book, “The Underground History of American Education” to get a full understanding of what American education was founded to do and why it’s going to continue to turn out Obama voters for the next generation.
All it took to elect FDR was one to three generations of voters indoctrinated to be comfortable with socialism in government schools that are socialist-funded, compulsory, single-payer, price-fixed cartel schools.
By my grandmother's day ( born 1894) government schooling was largely godlessly secular with perfunctory nods to God in the morning. Is it any wonder that she and my father learned to worship at the altar of the state and look to FDR as the nation's redeemer and savior?
Thank you for the links.
If they haven’t been posted before, in the coming weeks I will post them as threads.
The thread was posted to News/Activism.
Wintertime: "Please...Conservatives! Wake up! We must begin the process of privatizing universal K-12 education. It is **urgent**!!! We must work toward complete separation of school and state. NOW!"
Sounds like "Activism" to me.
The thread was started with the use of an undescribed youtube video and the poster stated her own opinion without any information about the content to back up such a “call.”
That is not “news” or even “activism” in so far as it is repetitive rhetoric from said poster. Thus it belongs in “personal/bloggers” or at least “chat” and not cluttering up the news feed.
P.S. I am not breaking FR protocol by not pinging the other poster - I have been repeatedly told by her not to do so.
Bravo!
wintertime: thanks for posting your continually provocative threads.
The public schools are the creators of the willing participants in American-style socialism, just as Soviet schools shaped their students to fit the requirements of Russian-style socialism.
Shutting down the public schools will be the first step towards the restoration of American Civilization.
I expect twelve year olds will have to lead this campaign, as the adult population is too morally compromised by the System to really object to it or "go Galt".
The Romans demanded their bread and circuses from all aspiring politicians - why would US citizens be any different?
Perhaps we humans can learn from history, and perhaps not.
This ping list is for the other articles of interest to homeschoolers about education and public school. This can occasionally be a fairly high volume list. Articles pinged to the Another Reason to Homeschool List will be given the keyword of ARTH. (If I remember. If I forget, please feel free to add it yourself)
The main Homeschool Ping List handles the homeschool-specific articles. I hold both the Homeschool Ping List and the Another Reason to Homeschool Ping list. Please freepmail me to let me know if you would like to be added to or removed from either list, or both.
Gatto is a former teacher who has written extensively on his experiences. I know you hate summertime, but Gatto is legit. His writings have made a difference in many families. Gatto’s stuff has been posted on FR for as long as I’ve been a member, this is where I learned of him.
If you can’t watch, at least look him up. Freepers used to research.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Taylor_Gatto
http://www.johntaylorgatto.com/underground/toc1.htm
I did not know he passed away! Thanks for posting that. His book cemented our decision to keep on the path, even when we were discouraged.
Gak! I read that in YouTube comments, but Wikipedia doesn’t indicate that. Sorry!
You know NOTHING about me, most especially about who I may or may not hate, nor about whether or not I know about a particular subject.
The fact there are people, who for whatever reason, are unable to watch videos - a brief synopsis of a video is just common courtesy.........which seems to be in short supply on FR of late.
I encourage people to read his writings. You may not agree with what he has to say, but he certainly makes you think.
I'm sad to hear that he has passed.
I can’t find anything online that says he has died, however. He had a couple of strokes in 2011, but it looks like he was still lecturing in 2012???
You know what, you’re right.
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