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Half the Facts You Know Are Probably Wrong
Reason ^ | January 2013 | Ronald Bailey

Posted on 01/03/2013 7:37:50 PM PST by neverdem

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To: Secret Agent Man

Romney fought to win the primary, but never did use those same tactics against President Obama or the Democrat leadership that tanked this nation beginning in 2007.


61 posted on 01/04/2013 11:10:29 AM PST by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: Tublecane
Fact: today I own a Honda Accord. Tomorrow, it is destroyed or repossessed. Now I no longer own a Honda Accord. Facts are circumstances that are changeable.

Fact: today I am alive on the earth. Tomorrow I die. Again, facts are circumstances that are changeable, etc. etc...

62 posted on 01/04/2013 1:10:26 PM PST by PapaNew
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To: PapaNew

Look at how you state the facts in example, though. You explicitly say you own a particular kind of car “today.” Whatever changes tomorrow, the fact of what you own today remains true forever. Facts are not changeable.

You go on to specify that you are alive “today.” Should you die tomorrow it will still be a fact that you were alive today. That can never change. (Unless, again, God’s omnipotence means he can reach into the past and change facts. I’ve never been clear on the extent of his supposed powers.)


63 posted on 01/04/2013 1:22:33 PM PST by Tublecane
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To: Tublecane

Well, this is getting a little far out, but I don’t think you would disagree that circumstances change. That’s the point.


64 posted on 01/04/2013 2:07:10 PM PST by PapaNew
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To: PapaNew

Circumstances do change, yes. But then I suppose what I most disagree with is your statement that “facts ate circumstances that are changeable.” Facts may be circumstances, or circumstances factual, and circumstances may be changeable, but facts are not.

Think of it as it is a fact that circumstances were so and so at such and such time and place. Should circumstances change there will be new facts. But the previous fact will remain the same.


65 posted on 01/04/2013 2:13:49 PM PST by Tublecane
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To: PapaNew

Circumstances do change, yes. But then I suppose what I most disagree with is your statement that “facts are circumstances that are changeable.” Facts may be circumstances, or circumstances factual, and circumstances may be changeable, but facts are not.

Think of it as it is a fact that circumstances were so and so at such and such time and place. Should circumstances change there will be new facts. But the previous fact will remain the same.


66 posted on 01/04/2013 2:14:05 PM PST by Tublecane
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To: neverdem
Other than the Bible, here are some "old" facts that are not only notable, but immutable. I won't post them all, but you get the idea..

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness...."

67 posted on 01/04/2013 4:22:42 PM PST by Gritty (The can no longer can be kicked down the road. We're all out of road, there's only an abyss-Mk Steyn)
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To: Vince Ferrer

Absolutely true and my knowledge is first hand.


68 posted on 01/04/2013 5:15:30 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Ditto

I remember it. We’re living through it now.


69 posted on 01/04/2013 5:17:18 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Tublecane
previous fact

OK but to put it in you vernacular, there's no such thing as previous truth. Truth is the same, past, present, and future. That's the point.

70 posted on 01/04/2013 5:18:10 PM PST by PapaNew
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To: Intolerant in NJ
Liberals and their associated fellow travelers perceive they have won the cultural wars and are simply in the process of rewriting history to their satisfaction.

Proving once again that winners always rewrite history in the absence of proof to the contrary, while at the same time omitting the essential essence of the history they are altering.

If you who are a scifi fan: the Babylon 5 episode “Sleeping in the Light” makes this point very dramatically.

71 posted on 01/05/2013 3:34:39 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: Morris70

Modern American thought: If it exists in 2012, then it always existed.

Islamic thought : if it is not mentioned in the koran, then it is anathema and must be destroyed.


72 posted on 01/05/2013 3:40:27 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: neverdem
More daringly, Arbesman suggests, “Stop memorizing things and just give up. Our individual memories can be outsourced to the cloud.” Through the Internet, we can “search for any fact we need any time.” Really? The Web is great for finding an up-to-date list of the 10 biggest cities in the United States, but if the scientific literature is littered with wrong facts, then cyberspace is an enticing quagmire of falsehoods, propaganda, and just plain bunkum. There simply is no substitute for skepticism.

All the leftists have to do -- err, have done -- is to gain control of the "snopes.com" so that their propaganda becomes the "trustworthy, TRUE truth."

This way to 1984, Winston Arbesman.

You stupid F*cktard.

(Incidentally, this may have some bearing on a certain COLB which has been in-and-out-of-controversy...)

Cheers!

73 posted on 01/05/2013 6:19:10 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: PA Engineer
Guess where Ancel Keys was from?

That's right, the People's Republic of Minnesota.

Uffda.

Cheers!

74 posted on 01/05/2013 6:21:19 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Kickass Conservative
No, the real tragedy is that Wilma dyed her hair red.

(My world just collapsed.)

Cheers!

75 posted on 01/05/2013 6:23:54 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: nathanbedford
It was Palin's fault for defeating Perry in the primaries.

/Eternal flame war>

(I know you supported Perry, just being mischievous today.)

Cheers!

76 posted on 01/05/2013 6:26:13 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Ditto
"Another factor in maintaining balance involves the element of time. As we peer into society's future, we -- you and I, and our government -- must avoid the impulse to live only for today, plundering, for our own ease and convenience, the precious resources of tomorrow. We cannot mortgage the material assets of our grandchildren without asking the loss also of their political and spiritual heritage. We want democracy to survive for all generations to come, not to become the insolvent phantom of tomorrow.

Let's start plastering this all over the web and beat Pelosi, Reid, Obama, and Weepy Boner over the head with it.

Cheers!

77 posted on 01/05/2013 6:28:23 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Secret Agent Man
The other realization is that the socialists mobilized the takers more than our side mobilized the makers. For a bunch of various reasons.

In essence, they created election day flash mobs out of single-information, low information parasitic voters.

("Obamaphone" "binders of women" "vote like your ladyparts depend on it.")

Cheers!

78 posted on 01/05/2013 6:32:51 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: neverdem

“A major problem with growing old is that at least half and perhaps three quarters of what you know is obsolete and no longer matters.” Bert .......on his profile page


79 posted on 01/05/2013 6:35:22 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....The fairest Deduction to be reduced is the Standard Deduction)
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To: a fool in paradise
That face is a perfect blend of Carrot Top, Jim Carrey, and Joe Piscopo.

Cheers!

80 posted on 01/05/2013 6:43:40 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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