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Toomey: GOP should be willing to risk shutdown to get cuts in debt ceiling deal
Hot Air ^ | 3:31 pm on January 3, 2013 | by Mary Katharine Ham

Posted on 01/03/2013 2:27:57 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach

Sen. Pat Toomey is one of the great accomplishments of the Tea Party Movement, and after supporting him in ’04 back when Bush was backing Specter, it does my heart good to see him in our dysfunctional deliberate body. For that same reason, some are very angry at him for his vote on the fiscal cliff deal. But as we go into another debt-ceiling fight, he’s one of our better communicators on this issue. So, it also does my heart good to see him go on “Morning Joe,” up against five people who disagree with him, and direct the conversation, over and over, away from the fig leaf of revenue and back to the real issue of entitlements and $16 trillion in debt.

There are some, like Ben Domenech, who think the debt ceiling deal will look much like this one— a short-term get-out-of-jail solution that again doesn’t address our real problems because no one really wants to address them. There are some, like Jim Pethokoukis, who think it’ll end in another tax hike.

If it’s ever going to look any different, with the GOP demanding what’s best for the country— “getting us off the path to Greece,” as Toomey puts it by addressing entitlement reform and maybe tax reform—it’s going to take people like Toomey to explain that, on TV, every single day. Many Americans simply don’t understand the gravity of the debt problem. Democrats and some Republicans are more than happy to feed this misunderstanding by pretending these deals make some kind of progress because it helps them avoid stickier budget wickets.

Toomey’s Wednesday appearance is getting a lot of press because he said the GOP should be willing to risk a temporary government shut-down to get cuts,.....

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: economy

1 posted on 01/03/2013 2:28:04 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Dear God let it be so. This should be our fight. We should shout it everyday...all day. Please please shut it down if that is what it takes. Now is the time!


2 posted on 01/03/2013 2:32:33 PM PST by yellowdoghunter
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Haaaaaaaa! That’s a good one Pat! Do you have any more to tell me?! Just too funny.


3 posted on 01/03/2013 2:34:26 PM PST by brownsfan (Behold, the power of government cheese.)
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To: yellowdoghunter; Marine_Uncle; TigersEye; SunkenCiv; blam; SierraWasp
More from the Hill--- Video....

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/275155-sen-toomey-calls-for-a-government-shutdown

4 posted on 01/03/2013 2:35:11 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: brownsfan

Sen. Toomey wants to fight the good fight, but he’s one of the few.

After Obama and the MSM get done beating them to a bloody pulp for a few weeks the Pubbies will be a’ runnin’ for the tall grass as usual.


5 posted on 01/03/2013 2:35:50 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: brownsfan

They always “risk” a shutdown; it’s just that they refuse to ever actually have a shutdown. Easy prediction: they will not shutdown the govt. Did we elect a new Speaker of the House today? Of course not; therefore, it will be the same old, same old.


6 posted on 01/03/2013 2:36:36 PM PST by Windy City Conservative
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

This Pat Toomey?

Pat Toomey’s cliff vote upsets backers

http://articles.mcall.com/2013-01-02/news/mc-pa-fiscal-cliff-fallout-toomey-20130102_1_pat-toomey-fiscal-cliff-tea-party


7 posted on 01/03/2013 2:38:00 PM PST by jimbo123
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To: Buckeye McFrog
Sen. Toomey wants to fight the good fight

BS. He voted for the Reid-Obama-McConnell bill.
8 posted on 01/03/2013 2:39:47 PM PST by jimbo123
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Proud Toomey supporter from 2004. Fiscal common sense. A low key kind of guy. I just wished he had never been part of the supercommittee, the worst idea ever to come out of the Senate.

Keep going Pat!


9 posted on 01/03/2013 2:40:54 PM PST by SueRae (It isn't over. In God We Trust.)
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To: brownsfan
What.....you don't believe a Senator....?

Now that is nearly Heresy.

10 posted on 01/03/2013 2:41:38 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Toomey is doing comedic relief these days?

If not, who does he think he’s kidding?


11 posted on 01/03/2013 2:45:32 PM PST by SaxxonWoods (....Let It Burn....)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Toomey is doing comedic relief these days?

If not, who does he think he’s kidding?


12 posted on 01/03/2013 2:45:42 PM PST by SaxxonWoods (....Let It Burn....)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

YOU’RE A LIAR AND A FRAUD SEN TOOMEY.

YOU COULD HAVE DENIED UNANIMOUS CONSENT AND STOPPED THE FIDCAL CLIFF BILL BUT YOU DIDN’T.

aND YOU WON’T DENY UNANIMOUS CONSENT FOR ANY OF THE OTHER GARBAGE FROM REID INCLUDING THE DEBT RISE.

TOOMEY YOU’RE A P.O.S.


13 posted on 01/03/2013 2:45:57 PM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
I'm sure Pat would have liked to reach into the screen and grab them one at a time by the neck and ram their stupid heads against perhaps a hard surface such as a corner of say a concrete wall.
I know that is what I felt like doing. Bastard# are nothing more then morons when it comes to thinking.
14 posted on 01/03/2013 2:47:41 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (I'm going John Galt.... But. Honor must be earned.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Oh, NOW they’re willing to shut the government down, after being scared in 2011, when their power was at it’s height. Oh NOW they learn something from Gingrich, after their boy Romney got his ass whipped.

Toomey can begin to lead by not attending any more of McConnell’s meetings, not listening to a word he says, and denying every unanimous consent in the Senate.


15 posted on 01/03/2013 2:49:11 PM PST by cotton1706
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I’ve had to adjust my skepticism threshold so many times, I’m convinced any attempt at a spinal implant would be rejected by DC Repubs as an incompatible match. Anyone willing to go over the cliff shouldn’t have a problem with a government shutdown.


16 posted on 01/03/2013 2:49:39 PM PST by Tex-Con-Man (<-------currently working through post-election anger issues.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

GOP will just rollover to Obama again. They are wimps and will never be in charge of the country again.


17 posted on 01/03/2013 2:52:47 PM PST by moviefan8
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

These wimps couldn’t shut down a lemonade stand.

Oh wait, they let THAT happen all the time.

Spineless bastards. The whole lot of them.


18 posted on 01/03/2013 2:53:30 PM PST by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

IMHO, we should, still, have the federal government shut down RIGHT NOW, from the first “government shut down” circumstance many years ago!


19 posted on 01/03/2013 2:54:11 PM PST by johnthebaptistmoore (The world continues to be stuck in a "all leftist, all of the time" funk. BUNK THE FUNK!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

BS. Toomey will fold right along with the rest of them when the MSM says “Boo!”


20 posted on 01/03/2013 3:06:23 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

MK Ham just another Fox News Liberal masquerading as some “conservative”

Toomey sold out conservatives on the Fiscal Cliff bill

Its time for MK Ham to wake up....and the Liberals who still watch Fox News. Real Conservatives are gonna call you out


21 posted on 01/03/2013 3:07:20 PM PST by SeminoleCounty (Fiscal Conservatives are Neither)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

That’ll happen right after Boehner’s thrown out as Speaker. Wait, what?!?


22 posted on 01/03/2013 3:07:35 PM PST by mykroar (BAD-ANON: One Game At A Time)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

By the time the debt-ceiling issue comes up in two months, many more Americans will have adopted Conservative principles, particularly the importance of lowering taxes — after being mugged by the reality of the lower paychecks they will be receiving thanks to the Obama tax increases, both from his fiscal-cliff deal and ObamaCare.

Last year, workers went on strike at the Twinkie Company and in the Chicago school district because, even though their pay was increased, they were angry it wasn’t increased even more. Now, every worker in America will suffer at least a 2% reduction in their take-home pay when payroll taxes are increased by that amount.

Surely, American workers won’t be happy. If Pat Toomey and other Conservatives continue to speak out on the importance of cutting spending rather than raising taxes, they will win many hearts and minds across America for the Conservative cause.


23 posted on 01/03/2013 3:15:02 PM PST by Bluestocking
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Bohner and his company of RINO clowns should tell Bambi: The debt ceiling will not in any way shape or form be raised...

Harry Reid MUST pass a budget first before we even have a conversation...

You need money to fund programs ? Cut spending...duh...

BTW, we don't care if the bloated festering federal purulent government shuts down...

24 posted on 01/03/2013 3:24:57 PM PST by Popman
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Toomey can stick it in his big fat RINO nose!

Let him come begging for my vote again!

KISS MY BIG FAT HAIRY BUTT AND I STILL WON’T VOTE FOR YOU!


25 posted on 01/03/2013 3:44:44 PM PST by prisoner6 (Right Wing Nuts bolt the Constitution together as the loose screws of the Left fall out!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

With our brand new speaker with his spine of steel...

Pardon?

oh never mind.


26 posted on 01/03/2013 4:01:28 PM PST by cableguymn (The founding fathers would be shooting by now..)
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To: yellowdoghunter

Yea Right!

Drama till the 11th hour and then cave like the bunch of show babies you freakin’ RINOs are.


27 posted on 01/03/2013 4:22:47 PM PST by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Let’s see now. Toomey advocates that Congress refuse to pay for bills they approved? Wow, that’s another great GOP winner.


28 posted on 01/03/2013 4:26:37 PM PST by ex-snook (God is Love)
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To: Bluestocking
Surely, American workers won’t be happy. If Pat Toomey and other Conservatives continue to speak out on the importance of cutting spending rather than raising taxes, they will win many hearts and minds across America for the Conservative cause.

'gimme a break. These are stage actors, they don't care about the Constitution. They just want the rubes to vote them back in and claim to pick up the tough fight! They'll show 'em next time!

TIMES UP

29 posted on 01/03/2013 4:31:18 PM PST by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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To: Popman

Sounds good. Dream on.


30 posted on 01/03/2013 4:32:39 PM PST by TADSLOS (I took extra credit at the School of Hard Knocks)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

If they had any guts they’d refuse to raise it and demand passage of a Balanced Budget Amendment.


31 posted on 01/03/2013 4:35:34 PM PST by Windcatcher (Obama is a COMMUNIST and the MSM is his armband-wearing propaganda machine.)
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To: broken_arrow1

I know you r upset but please know that I am not a rino....I just worked extremely hard to get two tea party candidates elected to the house.


32 posted on 01/03/2013 4:41:21 PM PST by yellowdoghunter
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To: brownsfan

Pat. U voted for a bill two days ago that has 4 Trillion new spending
over 10 Years. And it passed the house. Quit talking out of both sides
of your mouth.


33 posted on 01/03/2013 4:54:06 PM PST by tennmountainman
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

The worse thing about politicians as him; once they get into the system, they forget about the promises that they made to the average citizen (who are more engaged in these political times). I have several relatives who work inside the government (as elected officials). They tell the family they do not want to stir up any hot topic issues so they do not lose a job basically. This is why term limits should be on the platform of a new upcoming presidential candidate.

Many of the political people seek careers and a life of prestigious benefits. This is reality. A reformer with the goods is made out to be an extremist so they lay low up there out of fear and job security. The liberal democrats are mostly mush. Notice many of them are truly ignorant people so they get the job to do what the top people say to do. That’s all that is. This explains why their agenda is advancing.

Many people on the other side are good people though they refuse to be determined for the good of the country so not to be labeled as a extremist. That’s how I feel about my own family that’s up there. I just want someone to fight for the basis of our nation because our country cannot last on the course it’s on. Term limits, we all should demand. Being called a extremist should be a rally cry because politicians as they are now; it’s not working! The current speaker should had been fired today so to begin a new direction. He gave away most everything on principles.


34 posted on 01/03/2013 4:58:01 PM PST by Christie at the beach (I like Newt. Our nation's foundation is under attack.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

That would require backbone... Boehner and the GOP don’t have a single whole spine among them all...


35 posted on 01/03/2013 5:35:47 PM PST by TheBattman (Isn't the lesser evil... still evil?)
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To: yellowdoghunter

Yeah cause the last time the GOP shut the government down, the Democrats really suffered as a consequence (rolls eyes).


36 posted on 01/03/2013 5:53:30 PM PST by KantianBurke (Where was the Tea Party when Dubya was spending like a drunken sailor?)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

9 people in the House voted for someone other than John Boehner (RINO) as Speaker of the House. The problem is not just John Boehner. The problem is the entire House of Representatives. These people are not capable of shutting down a coffee break.

House = Useless
Senate = Hopeless
President = Evil incarnate


37 posted on 01/03/2013 5:54:36 PM PST by plain talk
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Right . . . gutless and clueless Bonehead Boehner is going to grow a pair and a spine to go to the mat with Obama and the Donkeys over the debt limit? Really? No kidding? RINO "Vidkun Quisling" Boehner is going to fight? Excuse me while I laugh myself into hysterics.
38 posted on 01/03/2013 5:57:13 PM PST by MasterGunner01
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To: KantianBurke

Agreed. Republicans will get smashed in this fight if they choose to challenge the debt ceiling. Best to leave it alone. I hate to say it, but I believe it to be true.


39 posted on 01/03/2013 6:06:07 PM PST by cornfedcowboy (Trust in God, but empty the clip.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

He voted yea for the bill. Said that if he were in the senate at the time he would have voted to drop “don’t ask don’t tell “.


40 posted on 01/03/2013 6:31:53 PM PST by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Toomey might be, but that doesn’t mean “the GOP” is.


41 posted on 01/03/2013 7:15:53 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (Don't worry about the cliff. We're going to all land on some rich guy's wallet.)
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