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Posted on 01/03/2013 10:31:45 AM PST by Perdogg

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To: presently no screen name

I had trouble stomaching MB on various Fox programs night after night during election


201 posted on 01/03/2013 8:39:56 PM PST by Friendofgeorge (SARAH PALIN 2016 OR BUST)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

I understand the republican party platform is being revised to a simple “B O H I C A”.

Maybe that is not painful to you. Some of us have objections.


202 posted on 01/03/2013 8:40:29 PM PST by Principle Over Politics (Is this a free country or what?)
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To: Principle Over Politics

OR howbout one of these

IF IT FEELS GOOD DO IT. or ANYTHING SOFT

I used to throw these out for Democrat platform themes, but maybe the GOP


203 posted on 01/03/2013 8:48:18 PM PST by Friendofgeorge (SARAH PALIN 2016 OR BUST)
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To: INVAR

You have made excellent points, ones that I had to consider for some time.

Thank you.


204 posted on 01/03/2013 8:51:33 PM PST by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: GeronL

Sometimes friendship taints good judgement???


205 posted on 01/03/2013 8:53:43 PM PST by The_Media_never_lie (Actually, they lie when it suits them! The crooked MS media must be defeated any way it can be done!)
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To: All

They can’t be so stupid as to believe they’ll actually get Hispanic votes. So that means they’re in on the scam with the democrats. They love their perks too much.

As for democrats winning because of a third party, if the conservative voters would have voted for the third party instead of rinos, the third party would have won. Why is it the third party always has to move to the republicans?


206 posted on 01/03/2013 10:31:17 PM PST by Terry Mross ( I post so people who hate me will know what I think. And they can't seem to stop reading. LOL)
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To: KevinDavis

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“We must be better than the democrats!”

“We must be purer Conservatives than Ronald Reagan!”

- Great how that has been working out so well!

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207 posted on 01/03/2013 10:37:53 PM PST by devolve ( ---- ---- ---- -CHEESEBURGER_CHEESEBURGER_CHEESEBURGER- ---- ---- ---- ---- John Belushi ---- ----)
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To: Norm Lenhart

Amen brother. AMEN.

And before anyone takes offense, for the record, I was out fighting well before most of you were born and I’m 1) running out of gas and 2) running out of hope. I don’t recognize America anymore.

I never thought I ‘d ever see this day.


208 posted on 01/04/2013 12:05:38 AM PST by Humidston (For the first time in my adult life I FEAR my government.)
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To: Terry Mross

How do you figure? 51% Obama 47% Romney. All third party 1.75. Your math seems off.


209 posted on 01/04/2013 12:41:21 AM PST by chopperjc
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To: chopperjc

I’ve been saying for weeks that Bachmann was on the tank. She and othe Tea Party members let Borhner punish the conservative committee members. Then they put no pressure on Boehner in the tax and spend showdown. This proves that the 151 GOP members who supposedly opposed the tax sell-out actually supported it. They were permitted to vote NO but they got their 30 pieces of silver behind closed doors.


210 posted on 01/04/2013 3:08:10 AM PST by littleharbour
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To: INVAR
If you are willing to surrender your core principles for political expedience.... [yadda yadda] .... you are compatriots with tyrants .. [etc etc] ...

If enough other fellow conservatives are like you, willing to declare that a vote against Boehner for Speaker (which by default == a vote for Pelosi) is one of their sacred Core Principles, central to their very existence, chiseled into the stone tablet over their fireplace, and furthermore that those who supported Boehner are supporting Tyranny (Boehner = Tyranny, Pelosi = Poster Child for Anti-Tyranny?), then God help us!!

211 posted on 01/04/2013 4:33:58 AM PST by CardCarryingMember.VastRightWC (If my kids make a mistake in the voting booth, I don't want them punished with a community organizer)
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To: napscoordinator

I see you haven’t changed - still the accuser when it shown what you really are with your liberal tactics and your posts.

It’s a new year - grow up and realize your mask if off.


212 posted on 01/04/2013 4:36:23 AM PST by presently no screen name
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To: littleharbour

Well I pretty much agree with what you say. Bachmann and Boehner have always been close though. I suggest you watch Boehner’s speech on Obamacare. She was right next to him. It is not recent. Of course members were released. Many voted after bill had passed, (cantor being one).

The whole party and yes even the tea party screwed this one up. Last year we could have had 8-1. This year one to one. What did we get? United we stand, dived........well you know the rest.


213 posted on 01/04/2013 4:45:01 AM PST by chopperjc
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To: CardCarryingMember.VastRightWC; INVAR
a vote against Boehner (which by default == a vote for Pelosi)

Can you mind stretch enough that the GOP should have supported someone other than Boehner? He has done nothing and the GOP seem content with that, like they were with Romney. You seemed so conditioned to vote against someone. Others have surpassed you. You have the AB..mindset. Turn in your card. You need to learn conservatism before you can claim it.

214 posted on 01/04/2013 4:50:38 AM PST by presently no screen name
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To: Friendofgeorge

Thank God I didn’t watch it to spare myself of her con job. She was hoping no one noticed her act of betrayal during the primaries. Her supporters are dazzled with her BS and unable to ‘watch’ her actions because they are blinded. They are not political savvy but useful fools. She’s fork tongue all the way - NOT solid.

It’s all about their ‘careers’ with no mindset of being a servant to us and for America. Ego before America. And we know pride comes before the fall that we are already witnessing.


215 posted on 01/04/2013 5:02:01 AM PST by presently no screen name
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To: Perdogg

So you split the vote and Nancy Pelosi wins the Speakership....

that is why they voted for Boner.

anything else is cutting off ones nose to spite ones face.

what the Republicans needed to do was to vote amongst themselves to pick a leader then stand by that in the whole house vote. perhaps that is what they did.


216 posted on 01/04/2013 5:02:01 AM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: KevinDavis

I think their perspective involved any candidate to replace Boehner. No one was willing to take the job. At least, they weren’t willing to go public.

Bachman, herself, would have been one of the possibilities. Others possibilities: Paul Ryan, Eric Cantor, and Darrell Issa.

None stepped forward.


217 posted on 01/04/2013 5:45:12 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: CardCarryingMember.VastRightWC
If enough other fellow conservatives are like you, willing to declare that a vote against Boehner for Speaker (which by default == a vote for Pelosi) is one of their sacred Core Principles, central to their very existence, chiseled into the stone tablet over their fireplace, and furthermore that those who supported Boehner are supporting Tyranny (Boehner = Tyranny, Pelosi = Poster Child for Anti-Tyranny?), then God help us!!

Yadda, yadda, yadda.....We heard the same illogical threats made by your kind to intimidate a vote for McLame and then again this year for Romney.

We will hear it again from your kind when the time comes to intimidate a vote for Lindsey Graham as the nominee in 2016. He will be touted as the only one who can beat Obama.

Also, God has no reason to help us. We sat on our hands while society threw Him out of it.

218 posted on 01/04/2013 5:57:45 AM PST by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: presently no screen name

Leave me the f alone you stalker!


219 posted on 01/04/2013 6:00:02 AM PST by napscoordinator (GOP Candidate 2020 - "Bloomberg 2020 - We vote for whatever crap the GOP puts in front of us.")
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To: presently no screen name

Exactly. She lied through her teeth about Perry and never went after Romney.


220 posted on 01/04/2013 6:09:12 AM PST by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind.)
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To: Colonel_Flagg

Bachmann is about Bachmann. Sure, she’s a “conservative”, as are all the ‘others’, but the ‘office’ is more important than the ‘principle’.


221 posted on 01/04/2013 6:13:16 AM PST by LibFreeUSA
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To: Norm Lenhart

Perry was and is not against border fencing. His position, which is correct IMO, is that it is impractical to try to fence the entire border between Texas and Mexico. The fence we have now does not stop the flow or even significantly slow down illegals crossing the border. Additionally, there are substantial issues with closing off Texas ranchers’ access to their water supply (the Rio) and effectively ceding the physical territory between the fence and the middle of the river to Mexico.


222 posted on 01/04/2013 6:30:41 AM PST by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind.)
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To: dfwgator

Who, historically, would have been acceptable to you? i’m curious...


223 posted on 01/04/2013 7:00:16 AM PST by bigdaddy45
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Sorry Buck, but that IS being against it.

We have all been through the argument over the fence and as always, fences are proven to work. Israel attests to that. It’s a matter of patrolling them. just as was the original plan when GWB approved it, congress funded it and the dems later cut it.

And I have spoken with a number of your fellow Texans that say Perry is far from the ideal conservative and like myself, question whether he’s a conservative at all. I admit he’s great on some issues like land and energy. but he is abysmal on personal rights (the HPV fiasco) and his delusion about ‘strategic fencing’.

And just to reiterate the fence thing and practicality, if the Chinese could do it three times longer over terrain that makes a mountain goat wet itself 3000 years ago... by hand no less...with ROCKS...and hold of the freaking Mongol Horde, I somehow think we could do it over mostly flat land with the help of Catepillar and John Deere, keeping the drug lords and illegal aliens at bay.

If we can land men on the moon and send 2 satellites to the edge of our solar system, we can overcome the technical challenges in hammering razor wire and chain link into dirt and rock, while allowing for irrigation and animal migration.

If we can make airplanes invisible to radar and live for months in orbit, we can figure out a way to stop liberals from stopping us from defending our country. Because as we already see the bodies pile up on the border, the day is quickly coming when people are going to demand that fence with no care to ‘practicality’ or who gets upset by it’s existence.

It’s simply a matter of will.


224 posted on 01/04/2013 9:21:05 AM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart

Yes, we’ve had the argument about fencing. In particular, you & I had a very productive, polite conversation about it during the primaries. In the end, we simply disagree about the feasibility of building a fence along the Texas-Mexico border, much of which is divided by water. Neither Israel nor China built walls that cut off a very large section of their land from a significant water source. Building a wall between Arizona-Mexico and New Mexico-Mexico makes some sense.


225 posted on 01/04/2013 10:32:19 AM PST by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind.)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Yup, I remember that now. It was a great conversation.

Honestly, I’d be perfectly satisfied with the military posted at regular (short) intervals and given the FULL authority to shoot on border violation. Solvs a lot of issues but raises others.

People always manage to convince the masses that grannies and dead babies will be the result. That and the government that authorizes it will quickly restrict it to uselessness as they did in putting the NG on desk duty.

So for me, the fence represents not only a physical barrier that would stop the vast majority, but is a permanent structure that cannot be easily made irrelevant by liberal whim. One it’s there, it’s there.

All a mental exercise at this point as Obama is building express lanes, not fences. And so we fall as a country.


226 posted on 01/04/2013 11:02:50 AM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart

Simple solution to the river issue. Annex 1/2 mile on the other side of the river and build the wall there. Tell Mexico to pound sand if they complain. Mexico’s biggest fear is that 20 million of their citizens would return home and end up unemployed. America’s leaky border is what prevents Mexico from having to make serious decisions about their own economy. Just imagine how nice it would be for you if America could export their millions of unemployed/welfare cases north of the border and make we Canadians pay for to support them. You’d solve your fiscal crisis in about 12 months. It would actually be cheaper for America if your border patrol picked up illegals and took them to the Canadian border, rather than sending them back home to sneak in again.


227 posted on 01/04/2013 12:24:59 PM PST by littleharbour
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To: littleharbour

That works for me as well.

But when we do water diversion projects every single day, it’s a simple matter to scale them up. Any grad student in hydroengineering could come up with the plan that is doable, cost effective and works.

But for whatever reason, people just can’t see it or think it’s too expensive.

The numbers have been run and posted on the web RE cost of illegals vs cost of fence. The fence pays for itself in a year or two. The rest of that cash henceforth is money saved and reinvested to the American worker/infrastructure.

But I ‘guess’ we are swimming in money and can afford to be the World Bank to Mexico.

It’s simply a matter of will. And most Americans simply do not have it. They have not yet personally felt the pain of the illegal invasion. Well they have via higher costs, but it’s just one of many costs they pay without thinking about them..just complaining.

When the body count rises to uncoverable levels, as it has been steadily doing; When families in more northern climes start losing children and family members at a faster rate than now via unlicensed drunk illegals, rapes and murders, we will see a change in attitude.

Bottom line - not enough liberals have died yet. Pathetic but true.


228 posted on 01/04/2013 12:39:19 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: GeronL

The only way to punish the GOP is to tell them that you will never donate to them again, and don’t. If there are enough conservatives on the GOP’s various mailing lists, who do this, it will make an impact, esp. at the local level.

Also, promise that you will no longer do their envelope stuffing, delivering political material door-to-door, put up signs in your yards, etc.

Hurt them in such a manner that it does hurt. The GOP is now going into the local/state level political arena rather than focusing solely on the national races. I know because me daughter is a rising local/state conservative activist and I help her with strategy.

Time to drop support for any RINO, the national GOP, and Boehner and throw your support to the Tea Party type groups (that are legit and sane).

This is going to hurt the GOP in the long run and help the true conservatives immediately. The Democrats fear the conservatives. One of our slogans should be “Fear the Tea Party”.


229 posted on 01/04/2013 8:04:20 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: Perdogg

I am personally VERY disappointed in Michele Bachmann.


230 posted on 01/04/2013 8:19:48 PM PST by Wisconsinlady (The only thing to stop a bad person with a gun, is a good person with a gun.)
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To: GeronL
I wonder what he offered her?

Exactly. Especially since she obviously squeaked back into office for her re-election this time. I'm not sure I would go so far to accuse her of being RINO based on this. She just understands the way power works on the Hill. I can still blame her, but the blame is not hers alone. Boehner should have been voted out in a landslide. That's one reason I submitted my paperwork to leave the Republican Party on the 2nd of January 2013. There are many more: Arrogance, stupidity, and mainly a distinct loss of conservative focus. I left after 37 years of being a Republican. My entire adult life. Actually, I see it as the party left me... a long time ago. Now I'm NPA.

231 posted on 01/04/2013 9:35:29 PM PST by ExSoldier (Stand up and be counted... OR LINE UP AND BE NUMBERED...)
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To: Perdogg

This is why we DON’T win.... we eat our own.... we never learn our lessons.... now everyone in this thread is in full blown panic mode. The reason why the dRATS survive every “bump in the carpet” is because no matter what goes wrong they act as though they expected it to go down exactly that way.


232 posted on 01/04/2013 9:58:55 PM PST by Heff
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To: deport

THANK YOU!


233 posted on 01/05/2013 12:45:30 AM PST by itssme
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To: Heff
republicans lose because rinos are in the power positions making dumbass decisions which stifles the conservative agenda from moving forward. So what, let republicans eat their own, good!! republicans deserve to implode! They have yet to understand rino/moderates positions are losers and are just destroying them. Or worse they DO understand and it's killing the conservative agenda!

Conservatives will only win when conservatives get politically active and fight. Conservatives just don't make gov't our religion like rinos and dems do.

I suggest telling the republican party to GFT, and let them crumble! It's one of the ways that has to happen to start over. Until rinos are removed from power positions, NOTHING gets done!

234 posted on 01/05/2013 4:35:01 AM PST by sirchtruth (Freedom is not free.)
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To: sirchtruth

Based upon the way we conservatives behave, between the name-calling and vitriolic comments we make about other Republicans, that easily becomes the narrative for the Democrats... so they never need to discuss the issues... they can just keep everyone (media) focused on how we Republicans are not unified, etc.... my point is, we don’t know how to effectively organize our strategy. Having petty in-fighting doesn’t make us stronger... it doesn’t mean that our concerns about our party are wrong, we just look petty in how we go about addressing them.


235 posted on 01/05/2013 6:08:17 AM PST by Heff
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To: sirchtruth

Based upon the way we conservatives behave, between the name-calling and vitriolic comments we make about other Republicans, that easily becomes the narrative for the Democrats... so they never need to discuss the issues... they can just keep everyone (media) focused on how we Republicans are not unified, etc.... my point is, we don’t know how to effectively organize our strategy. Having petty in-fighting doesn’t make us stronger... it doesn’t mean that our concerns about our party are wrong, we just look petty in how we go about addressing them.


236 posted on 01/05/2013 6:08:47 AM PST by Heff
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To: Heff
You mean based on REALITY and the TRUTH we should all just STFU and get along? Well, it's not gonna happen! I don't care about the way dems and the MSM perceive reality, they'll falsify it every time and until sorry SOS republicans are done playing this STUPID childish game the MSM and dems have created then republicans will always remain STUPID!

Just STFU, ignore the MSM/dems and do what's right. That's all that matters!

237 posted on 01/05/2013 7:36:11 AM PST by sirchtruth (Freedom is not free.)
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To: Perdogg

I wonder what they got in return. It should be interesting to watch.


238 posted on 01/05/2013 8:34:25 AM PST by ContraryMary
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To: ExSoldier

bump


239 posted on 01/05/2013 10:32:53 AM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: GeronL
6 posted on Thu Jan 03 2013 12:35:22 GMT-0600 (Central Standard Time) by GeronL: “I wonder what he offered her?”

Good question.

There may actually be a good answer. Clearly, Boehner did **SOMETHING** to convince some very angry conservative Republicans to vote for him, and we might actually like the terms of that deal.

Considering how much of a nuisance Bachmann has made herself to the Republican leadership, I'm guessing Boehner had to offer something pretty significant to get her to agree.

Time will tell. I'm not prepared to throw in the towel this early in the game.

240 posted on 01/05/2013 6:38:16 PM PST by darrellmaurina
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To: CardCarryingMember.VastRightWC
You pointed out the nine “no-Boehner” votes. They are Justin Amash (MICH), Jim Bridenstine (OK), Paul Broun (GA), Louie Gohmert (TX), Tim Huelskamp (KS), Walter B. Jones (NC), Thomas Massie (KY), Steve Pearce (NM), Ted Yoho (FL).

I can comment on only two of them.

I was once a reporter in New Mexico. I heard Rep. Pearce speak for some events. Hard-right unapologetic conservative. Seems like a good guy who won't be bullied, both from what I saw firsthand and from what I heard from others. But I haven't followed him recently and can't say more.

Rep. Amash is a different story.

I'm originally from Grand Rapids. My roots in Republican politics in that city go back many, many decades. Those who are supporters of Israel and those who have problems with Ron Paul need to stay away from Amash, at least for now. I may have a different view in a few years, because I cannot see how Amash can survive politically if he doesn't change.

On the positive side, Amash is very open about explaining his positions, he's quite internet-savvy, and part of his “problem” is that because he's open about what he believes, his enemies have more ammunition. I can respect him for being honest and upfront and I don't want to hold that against him.

Long-term, I can't see Amash being able to keep his seat in a socially conservative area like Grand Rapids unless he's able to cut a deal with Christian conservatives or with the Party establishment — which in West Michigan were once closely connected but not identical groups before the religious wars that badly damaged the social and political clout of the Dutch Reformed church world.

Amash won his seat after a badly-divided Republican primary in a district where it's extremely difficult for a Democrat to win. If the Democrats had been able to effectively promote a strong socially conservative candidate, I am not convinced that Amash would not have lost to the Democrat because a lot of Republicans were **REALLY** unhappy with him as the nominee. If Amash keeps up what he's doing now he's going to be in big trouble.

I'm guessing he won't be around much longer.

241 posted on 01/05/2013 8:07:31 PM PST by darrellmaurina
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To: who knows what evil?; KevinDavis; napscoordinator; PieterCasparzen; CedarDave; SoFloFreeper; ...
161 posted on Thu Jan 03 2013 16:22:56 GMT-0600 (Central Standard Time) by Georgia Girl 2: “I was watching the vote on CSPAN and it looked to me like the conservative GOP was sending Tammy Faye a warning. Waiting til the last minute to finally shift a couple more votes his way. I hope he got the picture.”

Bingo! We have a winner! Now lets see if Boehner gets the warning. I'm at least cautiously optimistic.

119 posted on Thu Jan 03 2013 14:24:09 GMT-0600 (Central Standard Time) by hummingbird: “Waiting Until the Last Minute is code... If it looked like there was going to be close to enough support to put someone else in, i.e., a last minute surprise, they held out so they could make the difference. That's kind of what I've been thinking. IMHO, too.”

Hummingbird is probably right. Some kind of deal took place. My guess is that Boehner was within a couple of votes of losing the speakership and several people got on board only after 1) it was clear he would win anyway, or 2) they were given some kind of promise that made them agree to vote for him.

That's fair. This is politics, after all. Now we need to demand that Bachmann and others hold Boehner’s feet to the fire.

242 posted on 01/05/2013 8:22:36 PM PST by darrellmaurina
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To: who knows what evil?; KevinDavis; napscoordinator; PieterCasparzen; CedarDave; Hildy; ...
34 posted on Thu Jan 03 2013 12:49:08 GMT-0600 (Central Standard Time) by who knows what evil?: “Time to switch registration to ‘Independent’...I’ll be voting for Constitution Party candidates from here on... I’ve read their platform, and it is as close to conservative as anything out there.”

“Who Knows,” I'm not really trying to pick on you here. You've actually made the best case yet for a third party and I'm going to say more about that at the end of this message.

But I seriously wonder if most of the people complaining about the Republican Party have actually tried to fix problems locally, where their firsthand personal actions could actually help, or if they're giving up without much effort.

Are people here aware that we have a Freeper from the Class of 1998 who got sworn in this week to a county with a $250 million budget, defeating a Republican incumbent during the primary and fighting against a county board of supervisors that likes insider financial deals and doesn't like public input?

I can't post the full text because it's an Associated Press article, but what appears to be a great profile piece on Hildy Angius and how she got active in politics appears here:
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/06/19/takes-action-tea-party-backers-explain-journey-enraged-engaged/#ixzz2H1CQ95ij

Scroll down past the initial section and you'll find gems like this:

“Her accent screams Long Island and she seems better suited for an episode of ‘The Real Housewives of New York City’ than the Chaparral Country Club in Bullhead City. Yet here she is, Hildy Angius, holding court with three older gentlemen who've just finished a round of golf in this retirement community in the far northwest corner of Arizona... Spotting an opening, Angius launches into the speech she delivers these days to friends and strangers alike, whether at tea party rallies, the local coffee shop or on Facebook. The upshot: Don't gripe, do something. Vote. Volunteer. Knock on doors. Do, in essence, what she's now doing: Whatever it takes to move the Republican Party, and the government, to the right... An avid Rush Limbaugh fan, she's called in to his show on any number of occasions.
Still, she acknowledges she did little more than complain until September 2008, when she realized Barack Obama was likely to win the presidency, bringing to office a far too liberal agenda that would mean the kind of changes Angius vehemently opposes. Never before a ‘joiner,’ she went online, learned about the Colorado River Republican Women, went to a meeting and found an outlet for her dismay.”

That, fellow Freepers, is a model in miniature of what we **ALL** need to be doing.

Here's the link to my post: http://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2974438/posts?page=133#133

Activism on the local level is what wins elections.

Words can change minds. Debating is not useless by any means.

But words without actions **ARE** worthless.

If you don't like your local Republican leaders, get involved in your local party and try to change their minds. If you can't, run for office yourself and try to get rid of them. If you can't do that, then go look at third party options.

But try the first steps first before jumping ship.

For those conservatives who are serious about trying to form an alternative party, the Constitution Party is the best option now out there. Missouri Right-to-Life endorsed their lieutenant governor candidate this year, a former Republican legislator.

I am not prepared to abandon the Republican Party, but for those who are, go out and get active on the local level in working for the Constitution Party or some other alternative party in deep-red districts where your vote actually can count and won't just elect a Democrat. CedarDave is dead right about how third party candidates can siphon away votes in close races.

243 posted on 01/05/2013 10:02:58 PM PST by darrellmaurina
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To: Mountain Mary

Rand Paul?!?! LOLOLOLOLOL.... :(

Sen. Rand Paul voted yes for the $650 billion 2013 NDAA, enough said there.

Senate Unanimously Passes 2013 NDAA; Power to Arrest Americans Remains

Just after 5:00 p.m. Tuesday, the Senate did it again. By a vote of 98-0 (two senators abstained) lawmakers in the upper chamber approved the Fiscal Year 2013 National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA). Not a single senator objected to the passage once again of a law that purports to permit the president, supported by nothing more substantial than his own belief that the suspect poses a threat to national security, to deploy the U.S. military to arrest an American living in America.

http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/item/13829-senate-unanimously-passes-2013-ndaa-power-to-arrest-americans-remains


244 posted on 01/06/2013 5:01:17 AM PST by Abiotic (The ship of democracy, which has weathered all storms, may sink through the mutiny of those on board)
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To: Perdogg

I’m NOT happy. But they MIGHT have gotten some kind of concession from the bastard. Let’s hope for the best and prepare for the worst and support the Tea Party.


245 posted on 01/06/2013 12:09:36 PM PST by ZULU (See video: http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2012/09/the-first-siege-of-vienna.html)
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To: Abiotic

Oh sorry. I didn’t mean to add Rand in there.


246 posted on 01/07/2013 7:39:24 PM PST by Mountain Mary (Pray for our Republic...)
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