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THE AR-15: THE GUN LIBERALS LOVE TO HATE
Human Events ^ | 1/2/2013 | David Keene

Posted on 01/02/2013 3:29:20 PM PST by neverdem

The AR-15: The gun liberals love to hate

Politician after politician have joined the television talking heads in calling for a new “assault weapons ban” patterned after the ten-year Clinton ban that was allowed to lapse in 2004 after Justice Department and private studies concluded it had no impact whatsoever on murder and violent crime rates and had become a symbol of wrong-headed governmental attempts to restrict firearms ownership in this country.

California Democratic Sen. Dianne Feinstein has called for reinstituting the old Clinton ban to outlaw the sale, transfer and possession of such guns in the future while grandfathering those already in the hands of private parties. Others, like New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo, have gone so far as to suggest “confiscation” or forced “buy back” programs “to get these weapons off the street.” In the last week dozens of commentators, reporters and politicians have said they support the 2nd Amendment, but would support an “assault weapons” ban because such weapons aren’t used for hunting and have no purpose other than to kill people.

While such suggestions reflect a simple minded and narrow understanding of why the founders included the Second Amendment in our Bill of Rights, they also suggest that those making them neither understand the nature of the firearms they would ban, their popularity or legitimate uses.

Those who would ban what they like to call assault weapons like to portray them as automatic weapons designed for use on the battlefield simply because they look cosmetically like their military counterparts. In fact, they are semi-automatic firearms that are designed and built not for the military, but for the civilian market and function differently than their military counterparts. Were our soldiers outfitted with ARs, they would be at the mercy of every army in the world.

The more than three million Americans who currently own AR-15s must wonder if any of these people know what they’re talking about. These guns are not cheap, but they have been the best-selling long arm in this country for some years. Those three million people didn’t buy have purchased them just to look at or because they are planning to use them to kill their fellow citizens.

The National Shooting Sports Foundation has surveyed the purchasers of AR-15s. The AR-15 is the most commonly used rifle for marksmanship training and competition. Nearly 90% of those who own an AR-15 use it for recreational target shooting; 51% of AR owners are members of shooting clubs and visit the range regularly. The typical AR owner is not a crazed teenage psychopath, but a 35+ year old, married and has some college education.

The popularity of the AR can be traced in part to the fact that it is a semi-automatic version of the rifle used by the men and women of the military. Nearly half of AR owners are veterans, law enforcement officers, or both. It is a configuration they are familiar with and enjoy shooting. My daughter, for example, served two tours in Iraq, one in Afghanistan, and only owns one gun — an AR.

AR 15s are good for hunting. Some buy an AR for home defense and about six percent of buyers are either collectors or varmint hunters. The standard AR is illegal in most states for deer and big game hunting because it is not considered powerful enough to reliably put down deer-sized or larger game, but is used for coyote, wolf and feral pig hunting in many states.

So the evidence tells us that although Sen. Feinstein and her friends may not know it, millions of Americans buy these guns because they like to shoot them and use them lawfully. The fact that a half dozen out of more than three million have been misused after illegally falling into the hands of crazed killers does not seem to be a reason to ban the popular gun according to most Americans asked in a recent USA Today poll.

These guns are not the weapon of choice for this nation’s criminals or killers. Indeed, the FBI found that in 2010, the last year for which data is available, more people were beaten to death than killed with all long guns including these so-called assault weapons.

It is true that the Supreme Court has left the door open for “reasonable” restrictions on firearms sales. There is good reason, for example, to keep guns out of the hands of felons, those who have been adjudicated as mentally incompetent, or unsupervised children. However there is no evidence whatever to suggest that a ban on the AR 15 or other semi-automatic firearms can be constitutionally justified just so politicians can say they have done something to satisfy the natural public desire act in the face of a tragedy like Newtown. A renewal of a juiced up version of the old Clinton “assault weapons” ban would no doubt make Sen. Feinstein and her friends feel good and deny millions of law abiding Americans the right to own and enjoy a gun protected by the Second Amendment,, but would do absolutely nothing to prevent future tragedies.


TOPICS: Editorial
KEYWORDS: ar15; banglist; democrats; feinstein; fufeinstein; guncontrol; secondamendment; youwillnotdisarmus
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1 posted on 01/02/2013 3:29:34 PM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem

Thank God I sold all my ARs to some guy in a bar.


2 posted on 01/02/2013 3:34:26 PM PST by ozzymandus
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To: ozzymandus

I sold mine to some Mexicans. (Just doing what my government does). They said they didn’t need a receipt.


3 posted on 01/02/2013 3:36:29 PM PST by clintonh8r (Happy to be represented by Lt. Col. Allen West)
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To: neverdem

I never much cared for them, prefer an M1 or M14.


4 posted on 01/02/2013 3:39:29 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: clintonh8r

LOL

That’s funny in any language.


5 posted on 01/02/2013 3:44:06 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: neverdem

The .223 is kind of an underpowered cartridge.


6 posted on 01/02/2013 3:44:51 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: neverdem
The standard AR is illegal in most states for deer and big game hunting because it is not considered powerful enough

Is that true, really? Seemed to be rather powerful in Sandy Hook. Would certainly depend on caliber and grain.

7 posted on 01/02/2013 3:45:13 PM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not NurtureĀ™)
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To: steve86

I don’t think any state allows a .223 for deer.

You can use them for coyote, hogs and varmints though.


8 posted on 01/02/2013 3:52:37 PM PST by Clint N. Suhks
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To: TigersEye

Here is an interesting article about the 5.56.
Not as underpowered as some think.

http://www.futurefirepower.com/myths-about-the-nato-556-cartridge


9 posted on 01/02/2013 3:55:59 PM PST by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters of Freedom, Committee of Correspondence)
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To: Clint N. Suhks

I’m thinking it is the small diameter of the projectile rather than the force behind it that is the problem?


10 posted on 01/02/2013 3:56:07 PM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not NurtureĀ™)
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To: TigersEye

That is why I stick to the 5.56mm and assault clips. Way more powerful.


11 posted on 01/02/2013 4:00:59 PM PST by eartick
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To: steve86

Mainly it’s the weight of the bullet. Heavier bullets are better, but there’s only so much you can do in a small caliber.


12 posted on 01/02/2013 4:04:54 PM PST by ozzymandus
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To: Clint N. Suhks
I don’t think any state allows a .223 for deer.

.30 caliber minimum in this state for big game. I tend toward the .45-70. That solves most problems, including unwanted motor vehicles.

13 posted on 01/02/2013 4:05:33 PM PST by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: steve86

Exactly correct. It will pass through any part of a deer but a .22 cal doesn’t make a very big hole.


14 posted on 01/02/2013 4:07:13 PM PST by Clint N. Suhks
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To: steve86

Normal 223 ammo uses a 55-grain bullet. They make 80-grain bullets for it but the rifle needs a faster twist barrel to stabilize it so as to have it shoot accurately, one in eight at least. M16 upper receivers with 1:8 twist barrels aren’t that had to come up with or at least they weren’t prior to a couple of months ago...


15 posted on 01/02/2013 4:07:52 PM PST by varmintman
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To: neverdem

I’m partial to my Mini-14, but I wouldn’t kick an AR out of the gun safe.


16 posted on 01/02/2013 4:08:29 PM PST by IamConservative (The soul of my lifes journey is Liberty!)
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To: neverdem


M4 carbine. Inscribed with "Molon Labe"
17 posted on 01/02/2013 4:08:57 PM PST by caveat emptor (!)
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To: 3Fingas

Interesting article. Thanks for the link.


18 posted on 01/02/2013 4:09:22 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: Clint N. Suhks

You don’t use the full metal jacket ammo for hunting, you use a ballistic or soft point bullet which expands to two or three times it’s original diameter.


19 posted on 01/02/2013 4:10:35 PM PST by varmintman
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To: Clint N. Suhks
"I don’t think any state allows a .223 for deer."

In Pennsylvania, the only requirement for deer and black bear in regular firearms season is that it is a centerfire round with a projectile designed to expand (i.e. no FMJ). If so inclined, you could use a .17 Remington for black bear. Muzzle loading long guns must be a minimum of .44 and muzzle loading handguns must be at least .50.

There is limited hunting of the PA elk herd, and IIRC, there is a .270/130gr. minimum for them.

20 posted on 01/02/2013 4:11:23 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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