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1 posted on 01/02/2013 9:13:51 AM PST by Kaslin
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“This is already happening in places like the United Kingdom, where the elderly as well as newborn babies deemed unworthy of hospital resources are being sentenced to death by dehydration.”

The younger Bushes’ “greatest” legacy in America.


2 posted on 01/02/2013 9:16:44 AM PST by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: Kaslin

If suicide of the infirm were a stand-alone question, without connection to issues such as the availability of medical care or involuntary “suicide” under pressure from medical personnel or family, it could be discussed simply as a liberty question. However, we know from the experience of other countries that the option of suicide quickly because the duty to die and the opportunity to kill.

This issue is similar to homosexual “marriage,” in that our discussion of both often proceeds in a philosophical vacuum, as if there is no real-world data about the practical outcomes. In both situations, there is a lot of data available, and very little of it supports the contention that suicide or homosexual “marriage” will add to the liberty and prosperity of the society.


4 posted on 01/02/2013 9:20:25 AM PST by Tax-chick (I'm not crazy ... I'm just not you.)
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To: Kaslin

That is a better question.

The Progressives want the "Right to Die" to become the "Duty to Die"

Taking care of Elderly and Newborns is expensive, gotta pay for those Freebies some how.

We are murdering our next generation. Our nation will be a trash pile, but as long as the Liberals are in charge of it they are OKAY.

5 posted on 01/02/2013 9:21:28 AM PST by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.-Sarah Palin)
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To: Kaslin

Despair is a great sin. Despair and suicide in effect are saying - there are human problems or concerns which are greater than God, and that are beyond his plans for us. How can that not be evil?


7 posted on 01/02/2013 9:25:01 AM PST by PGR88
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To: Kaslin

...and take a politician with you...


9 posted on 01/02/2013 9:27:24 AM PST by null and void (The world is full of Maple Streets.)
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To: Kaslin

my my my.....

Logan’s Run


10 posted on 01/02/2013 9:29:31 AM PST by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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to accept the fact of one’s “diminishing existence” and to take decisive action to end one’s suffering is an act of immense courage

HUM. Okay. If we accept “diminishing existence” as a legit idea then what about the following.
All inmates in prison that are serving “life” sentences with no chance of parole should be executed. Surely their life is a diminished existence.. What about the handi-capped? The autistic? A slipper slope this would seem to be..............


11 posted on 01/02/2013 9:30:21 AM PST by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I sign up for the American Revolution 2013 and the Crusades 2013?)
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To: Kaslin

It is as if every single plot of every single dystopian novel liberals have ever read, serve as a wonderful menu of opportunities to them.


13 posted on 01/02/2013 9:32:52 AM PST by Lazamataz (LAZ'S LAW: As an argument with liberals goes on, the probability of being called racist approaches 1)
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To: Kaslin
This is already happening in places like the United Kingdom, where the elderly as well as newborn babies deemed unworthy of hospital resources are being sentenced to death by dehydration.

Not just "some" but A LOT.

Almost half of dying patients placed on the controversial Liverpool Care Pathway are never told that life-saving treatment has been withdrawn, a national audit has found. The study suggests that in total, around 57,000 patients a year are dying in NHS hospitals without being told that efforts to keep them alive have been stopped.

It also reveals that thousands of dying patients have been left to suffer in pain, with no attempt to keep them comfortable while drugs were administered.

Jeremy Hunt, the Health Secretary, last night described the disclosures from records held by 178 NHS hospitals as "totally unacceptable".

He said the failure to consult patients would now be examined by an independent inquiry, which will also look at payments made to hospitals for meeting targets to place people on the pathway.

Each year around 130,000 patients are placed on the pathway. The national audit by the Marie Curie Palliative Care Institute Liverpool and the Royal College of Physicians examined a representative sample of 7,058 deaths which occurred between April and June last year, at 178 NHS hospitals.

The good news is that some doctors are prescribing water to prevent forced dehydration of patients.

And not juts the elderly...pre-mature babies....youngsters involved in car accidents etc.....The Liverpool Pathway is no Yellow Brick Road....but a gateway to the morgue.

17 posted on 01/02/2013 10:05:45 AM PST by spokeshave (The only people better off today than 4 years ago are the Prisoners at Guantanamo.)
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To: Kaslin

1- Your body is a Temple of the Holy Spirit.
2- The only unforgivable sins are those against the Holy Spirit.
3- I’d rather do all of my suffering on this side of the veil.
4- If you think you have no price to pay, you need further Wisdom.


21 posted on 01/02/2013 10:19:04 AM PST by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: Kaslin
Lord Moyne recounted the death of King George the Fifth of Gt Britain. The King had ascended the throne in 1910. Now it was 1935. The nurse was advised that she must inject the dying king. She knew what they were up to and she refused. A doctor injected the monarch.

It was said the family wished the death to be at a certain time, so that the morning papers would have the news. It was put out that the king's last words were "How stands the Empire now?". Another unofficial account claimed "the the old sailor, opened his eyes and said Damn you!" This as they were injecting him and his last words.

I remember talk even as far back as the 1940's about patients being elderly and with Parkinson's disease, being deprived of fluids. Common knowledge, but little if any proof.

I emigrated to Canada from England over fifty years ago and I am not sorry.

26 posted on 01/02/2013 10:49:28 AM PST by Peter Libra
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To: Kaslin

when life has no valuethen anything goes, welcome to humans becoming animals


28 posted on 01/02/2013 10:58:04 AM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Kaslin

Eugenics is all the rage. “Who wants to go first? No takers? Ok, we’ll select by committee”. - signed, B. H. Obama


30 posted on 01/02/2013 11:05:16 AM PST by TADSLOS (I took extra credit at the School of Hard Knocks)
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To: Kaslin

“Why Not Suicide?”

Because it’s a sin? Wait, do we still use that word?


31 posted on 01/02/2013 11:27:40 AM PST by Tublecane
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To: Kaslin

Her reasoning is “sound” only if you accept her presupposition that her life is of little to no value.

Take away that presupposition and she makes no sense.

The fact is, we are of value, to God of course, and also to many others. Some, we don’t even know how important we are to them.

What is better for a 50 year old man? To see his mother kill herself, or to see her loved and cared for and respected and enjoyed until the true end of her days?

Our deaths affect so many people. Her reasoning assumes the opposite.


32 posted on 01/02/2013 11:28:47 AM PST by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: wagglebee; narses; P-Marlowe

Suicide is wrong because life is sacred.

To underscore that ultimate value, we go to extraordinary lengths to prevent life from being cheapened. When life is cheapened, everyone’s life is in jeopardy.


37 posted on 01/02/2013 11:45:40 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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copingstrategiescd.com is why not!....


42 posted on 01/02/2013 12:51:32 PM PST by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo in laughter")
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To: Kaslin

Why not just create a Logans Run society?


60 posted on 01/02/2013 5:12:06 PM PST by Eye of Unk (A Civil Cold War in America is here, its already been declared.)
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