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House passes fiscal cliff deal, tamps down GOP revolt
Yahoo ^ | Dec 31, 2012 | Olivier Knox

Posted on 01/01/2013 7:47:58 PM PST by Vince Ferrer

Edited on 01/02/2013 5:27:03 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: Cubs Fan

But you won’t get to vote in the 2014 primaries in most states if you “leave” the party. Besides, it’s already left you.


151 posted on 01/02/2013 4:01:48 AM PST by Theodore R. ("Hey, the American people must all be crazy out there!")
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To: Theodore R.

I give NO credit to any of the Republican members who voted no. The fix was in. Enough Republicans in what is considered “safe” seats were asked to vote yes, so that the rest of the cowards could vote no purely for purposes of political cover. If this vote was genuine, the entire GOP leadership team would be tossed out by the majority of Republican members whose will they supposedly went against by pushing this sell-out. There are only a handful of true conservatives in the GOP caucus and I don’t include Michelle Bachmann in that number. She sold her political soul to curry favour with the GOP-e in the primaries and is a shell of her former self. The Tea Party Caucus is a farce.


152 posted on 01/02/2013 4:55:42 AM PST by littleharbour
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To: Vince Ferrer

John Sullivan (R-OK). That little lame-duck snake. That’s why we primaried him.


153 posted on 01/02/2013 5:00:45 AM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: Vince Ferrer

John Boehner, the new “Democrat” -voting Majority Speaker.

Time to get rid of this fool.


154 posted on 01/02/2013 5:53:12 AM PST by LibFreeUSA
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To: Vince Ferrer

Take down their names, and make sure their constituents remember how they voted in two years.


155 posted on 01/02/2013 6:04:04 AM PST by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
Take all this down to the wire...then deliver to the American people something like this.

These are supposed to be the best and the brightest we send to Warshington. Either they are dumb as an earth biscuit or they are doing this stuff on purpose.

I believe this is on purpose. To what end? Not sure, but one thing I am absolutely sure of, Uncle Sugar (republicans and democrats) are completely out of control!

156 posted on 01/02/2013 6:18:08 AM PST by servantboy777
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To: JimSEA

“Conservatives in government are officially a small and insignificant minority.”

So what’s new about that?

I would be shocked to learn that there are actually 72 limited government R’s in Congress, per your comment about “no” votes.

Most self-styled “conservative” R’s in Congress are not very conservative at all. For one, most are attorneys, so it is very easy for them to vote as statists while seated in Congress and at the same time portraying themselves as conservatives or constitutionalists back in the district. Secondly, there are plenty of “conservative” voters who continue to vote for them and make excuses for them back home.

Even in this forum, there has traditionally been plenty of support for big government R candidates, and those of us who refuse to capitulate get attacked for sticking to principles, a trait we are told results in electing liberals??

If we really want to fix taxes and spending there are two fundamental problems which need to be addressed: the Federal Reserve, and the debt ceiling. Tax revenue does not seem to be an impediment to federal spending when the Fed has the ability to make up the difference simply by running the printing presses faster.


157 posted on 01/02/2013 6:18:45 AM PST by SecAmndmt (Arm yourselves!)
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To: Norm Lenhart
Oh there's a lot that think it doesn't matter.

Once they get their talking points together they will be trumpeting how strategically awesome this was.....already there's some on here talking about what a waste this fight is because the debt ceiling fight is where it's at. The Monty Pythons of conservatism.......'tis merely a flesh wound.'

158 posted on 01/02/2013 7:15:53 AM PST by Repeat Offender (What good are conservative principles if we don't stand by them?)
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To: My Favorite Headache

The big mistake the Repubs made was not in this sorry piece of cr*p legislation, but in originally doing the fiscal cliff legislation. It set up a lose-lose situation for the Repubs and a win-win for the Dems if for no other reason than that the USSA One Party Press would paint the Repubs as the bad ones no matter what. Thus no reason for the Dems to be reasonable.

How are we any different with the USA mass media than that of the old USSR where Pravda/Tass was a One Party Media. Dittos here too.


159 posted on 01/02/2013 7:29:46 AM PST by OldArmy52 (The question is not whether Obama ever lies, but whether he ever tells the truth.)
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To: servantboy777
These are supposed to be the best and the brightest we send to Warshington. Either they are dumb as an earth biscuit or they are doing this stuff on purpose.
I believe this is on purpose. To what end? Not sure, but one thing I am absolutely sure of, Uncle Sugar (republicans and democrats) are completely out of control!

Good Cop/Bad Cop.
Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

160 posted on 01/02/2013 7:44:52 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: Vince Ferrer
Sadly, it needed to happen. The GOP had no bargaining room.

They are looking at the next election cycle. I just hope they have some stones for the fight for the 2nd amendment.

161 posted on 01/02/2013 8:15:18 AM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

No animosity for the RATS that constructed this trap under the direction of the head snake Idi Obama and his media toadies. 151 repubs in house voted nay. The RAT party holds a stacked deck. What can repubs or anyone do with the kenyan maggot as the head of the snake? The only way this could have been averted was to forcibly remove the kenyan vulture and the rest of his criminal gang.


162 posted on 01/02/2013 8:18:12 AM PST by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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To: Vince Ferrer
The deal was made long before now, the dog and pony show was simply for the ignorant American people who would tune in to watch how “hard Congress was working to avert the [fiscal cliff]” a complete lie and manufactured crises! Notice another year of unemployment in this so called “fixed economy,” just another hand out to the moochers!

Next, will be the sell out of the American people's firearms and another increase in the debt limit to three (3) trillion dollars for the rats to spend to keep themselves in power by brackaclause giving to the moochers!

Democrat party = neo moochers party!

Will the last white American leaving America bring the flag and the Constitution with them.

163 posted on 01/02/2013 8:18:59 AM PST by paratrooper82 (We have been deserted by this WH and left to fend for ourselves in Afghanistan! Both hands tied!)
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To: Vince Ferrer

No animosity for the RATS that constructed this trap under the direction of the head snake Idi Obama and his media toadies. 151 repubs in house voted nay. The RAT party holds a stacked deck. What can repubs or anyone do with the kenyan maggot as the head of the snake? The only way this could have been averted was to forcibly remove the kenyan vulture and the rest of his criminal gang from power.


164 posted on 01/02/2013 8:19:19 AM PST by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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To: Neoliberalnot
“What can repubs or anyone do with the kenyan maggot as the head of the snake?”

The Republicans could have simply walked out and said no more spending period! If the demorats want to spend more of America’s hard earned tax dollars, they will have to cut the size of this out of control government!

There is a reason why ALL spending bills must originate in the House of Representatives! The Republican (RINO’s) have more power in there hands then they want to recognize, but, because they can't set aside there [pride] and make the hard decisions, America ends up with these kinds of dog and pony shows!

Watch the next one coming, already being called the “next crises” by the old media, ginning up the electorate to pressure the RINO’s into giving Brakaclause another three (3) trillion dollars to give to the moochers instead of the Republicans just saying “NO!”

165 posted on 01/02/2013 8:26:05 AM PST by paratrooper82 (We have been deserted by this WH and left to fend for ourselves in Afghanistan! Both hands tied!)
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To: paratrooper82

THEIR pride . . . my bad!


166 posted on 01/02/2013 8:27:15 AM PST by paratrooper82 (We have been deserted by this WH and left to fend for ourselves in Afghanistan! Both hands tied!)
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To: Sporke
I left the GOP when Bush Sr. was President. I’m a strict Constitution guy. I’m also part of the Texas Nationalist movement. I’m ready for a new Republic

Absolutely....I stopped voting Republican years ago, when it was inordinately obvious that party no longer represented what was in America's best interest. Be very aware of those suggesting that fraudulent corrupt party can somehow be fixed or salvaged.. Never going to happen.

167 posted on 01/02/2013 8:40:40 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: paratrooper82

If the repubs walked out try to fathom the media dogs and what they could do to further destroy all opposition to the RAT party/ aka socialist/communist/fascist. I believe that the Rats hoped that something like a walkout was considered and some even hoped for.


168 posted on 01/02/2013 8:46:24 AM PST by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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To: demshateGod

Ah, no surprise there. Guess he can go back to drinking full-time now and hanging out with his buddy, Boone Pickens.


169 posted on 01/02/2013 9:58:32 AM PST by Pining_4_TX (All those who were appointed to eternal life believed. Acts 13:48)
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To: Neoliberalnot
Did not matter what the Republicans did, they just agreed to exactly what the Rats wanted an still they are being vilified in the old media.

The Republicans need to set their “pride” aside and do the right thing here, stop the spending! Stop the spending! There is NOT a revenue problem in this Government, it is a S-P-E-N-D-I-N-G problem!

Walk out and stop the spending! Who cares what the old media says, they hate Republicans anyway, so no matter what the Republicans do, the old media will never like them!

STOP the damn spending, walk out and leave the Rats to rub their wooden heads on how they intend to get more money to give tot he moochers!

170 posted on 01/02/2013 10:22:48 AM PST by paratrooper82 (We have been deserted by this WH and left to fend for ourselves in Afghanistan! Both hands tied!)
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To: paratrooper82

every curb looks like a cliff to a drunken spender with a pocket full of someone elses money


171 posted on 01/02/2013 10:37:49 AM PST by KTM rider ( , you'd be lucky to get= $7....LOL !)
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To: littleharbour

“I give NO credit to any of the Republican members who voted no.”

“The Tea Party Caucus is a farce.”

Well, actually, that isn’t true. I know my Rep really well. He did a Town Hall meeting on the phone and several thousand people were allowed to vote on the fiscal issues. Well over 40,000 people were on line at any one time.

Almost 70% of those votes are reflected in his NO vote. He did exactly as his constituents voted. I don’t consider myself a republican any longer. But, I am not going to abandon the conservative republicans that have stood with us.

My Rep isn’t afraid to go against the leadership. He has done it in the past. I consider him a statesman and he follows the Constitution. It is very important to him. Most importantly, he votes with his constituents.


172 posted on 01/02/2013 11:18:31 AM PST by BlessingsofLiberty (Remember Brian Terry...)
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To: LibFreeUSA

Many who voted “No” on the sellout still favor Boehner. So their “No” votes were in many cases not sincere at all. I doubt thought that the Republican primary voters will ever figure things out, as they are too busy working to pay the popular taxes.


173 posted on 01/02/2013 11:54:44 AM PST by Theodore R. ("Hey, the American people must all be crazy out there!")
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To: dragnet2

Well, John Cornyn will be renominated by default if you and yours aren’t voting in the primary in 2014.


174 posted on 01/02/2013 11:56:19 AM PST by Theodore R. ("Hey, the American people must all be crazy out there!")
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To: OldArmy52

Nikita S. Khrushchev would be shocked at the growing socialism of the “American people.” They aren’t much “American” at all any more.


175 posted on 01/02/2013 11:58:31 AM PST by Theodore R. ("Hey, the American people must all be crazy out there!")
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To: BenLurkin

No point in that. The autopsy will reveal the cause of death as stupidity and cowardice.


176 posted on 01/02/2013 11:59:24 AM PST by L,TOWM (No one in the US is free of the spirit of entitlement)
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To: Vince Ferrer

Folder all right and FICA is going back up 2%..so everyone, not just the rich, are going to be paying more in taxes.


177 posted on 01/02/2013 1:09:07 PM PST by DouglasKC
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To: Theodore R.

I’m way done voting for frauds, the better of two evils etc.

I came to the conclusion years ago, this is all a conjob and both parties are riding in the same limo. They clearly represent themselves.

By now, it should be pretty damn obvious.

It’s no different than the masked wrestlers, as they perform choreographed and rehearsed tricks for their audience of applauding fools, who think it’s all legitimate and above board.

Among other things, we should have never allowed the same people to hold power and run for offices over and over and over and over....making life long careers in government....It was a perfect recipe for utter corruption.


178 posted on 01/02/2013 1:34:54 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: paratrooper82

STOP the damn spending, walk out and leave the Rats to rub their wooden heads on how they intend to get more money to give tot he moochers!””

I am in Complete partisan agreement. Much of this nightmare would never have occurred if all federal employees and politicians were forced to live by precisely the same laws, rules, and regulations forced on the rest of us.


179 posted on 01/02/2013 1:56:37 PM PST by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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To: whitedog57

So much for the GOP being able to claim obama now has full responsibility for the economy. The left can just point to the GOP and say “you voted for it,,,it’s your fault!” Then again, they would have blamed the GOP anyway.


180 posted on 01/02/2013 6:00:49 PM PST by chessplayer
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To: Vince Ferrer

I am done voting GOP.


181 posted on 01/03/2013 12:10:03 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: BlessingsofLiberty

If your member is one of the 16 who voted against Boehner’s leadership then I agree with your assessment. If he voted for Boehner he’s just another hack politician.


182 posted on 01/04/2013 3:18:21 AM PST by littleharbour
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To: littleharbour

“If your member is one of the 16 who voted against Boehner’s leadership then I agree with your assessment. If he voted for Boehner he’s just another hack politician.”

Sorry for the late response.

My Republican Representative voted against Boehner. One of the group who wanted “a different direction”. Good man...


183 posted on 01/10/2013 4:36:08 PM PST by BlessingsofLiberty (Remember Brian Terry...)
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