Skip to comments.You Know How This Ends Right? This Ends Through War.
Posted on 12/31/2012 9:07:36 PM PST by blam
You Know How This Ends Right? This Ends Through War.
December 31st, 2012
In 2006, when Americans were flying high on ever-expanding credit and double digit real estate growth, hedge fund manager Kyle Bass came to the conclusion that something was very wrong. He and his investors determined that a massive real estate bubble was forming in sub-prime mortgages. But rather than just making a prediction, they put their money where their mouth was, and took a $4 billion gamble that the real estate market was about to detonate.
At the time, many in the industry and within financial circles thought him crazy.
History, however, proves he was right.
When the real estate bubble did finally burst, stock markets plummeted and mortgage backed securities fell to pennies on the dollar. Bass and his hedge fund made billions in the process.
Bass foresight was 20/20, and now he has issued a warning so dire that it, like the real estate crisis and recession that followed, is unimaginable for most Americans.
In many of these situations the quantitative analysis is already done. Its just a question of when will this unravel and how will it unravel, which I think is the key when were thinking about the chronology of events and the likelihood of events going forward.
Something that I think is really important to pay attention to, in the last 10 years debts around the world this is total credit market debts, this is on balance sheets, sovereign obligations, corporate debt, household debt has grown from $80 trillion to just over $200 trillion.
We sit today at the worlds largest peacetime accumulation of debt in world history
You know how this ends right?
This ends through war
I dont know whos going to fight who, but Im fairly certain in the next few years you will see wars erupt, and not just small ones
Youre going to see more social unrest.
You saw HUGE riots in Greece, and youre seeing HUGE riots in other parts of the world over food (and lack of food) and those are actually derivatives of the financial problems that were seeing. Were exporting inflation to some other nations. Going forward its going to be a problem.
Theyre not going to tell you [that a collapse is coming]. Youre going to have to see it for yourself. [During the Tequila crisis], the Mexican government affirmed they would not default, that they would not devalue, almost daily. The day after they said we wont devalue, they devalued by 60%.
The governments never going to tell you that its going to happen.
Greeces Yunker said recently, When it becomes seriousyou have to lie. These guys are never going to tell you the truth, because they cant tell you the truth. Their job is to promote confidence, not to tell you the truth.
Watch Kyle Bass: Full Speech at the AmerCatalyst 2012 Conference (Approx 1 hour)
The United States, Europe and the rest of the world have created more debt than has ever existed in the history of the world. Debt is nothing more than a representation (and expectation) of future earnings future work. But, as many of us know, there has been so much money borrowed that we cant possible every expect to pay it back. In fact, the only thing we can expect is that we will continue to take on even more debt.
At some point in the (near) future, the plug is going to be pulled and no one is going to lend anyone any more money. We saw this on a small scale in 2008 when credit markets around the world froze up. No one was lending money. There was so much risk that banks not only refused to lend money to individuals and businesses, but they refused to even lend each other money.
Central banks around the world, namely the U.S. Federal Reserve, calmed financial markets by pumping out trillions of dollars in emergency lending. This gave many a perception that things were returning to normal, but as Kyle Bass points out, we are in anything but a normal situation.
Debt has sky rocketed and were not going to pay it back ever.
Like the mafia does when debts dont get paid, our creditors are eventually going to resort to breaking some legs.
But were talking about debts of entire sovereign nations here, so the tools used to take care of it wont be crowbars or baseball bats, but rather, soldiers, tanks and intercontinental ballistic missiles.
War is coming just as it has throughout history.
And the 99% of Americans who believe in a benevolent, all knowing, all caring government will be the last ones to get the memo.
Ignore the warnings at your peril.
and most Americans don’t think anything is wrong except those evil Republicans holding back more freebies
And Happy New Year Blam.
I correspond with someone in India on a regular basis. He tells me people there expect their food prices to skyrocket in 2013.
I like Kyle because he's Texan and also has 20 million nickels as a hedge against inflation...
Food prices will go up here too.Another drought like last year-we will be in serious trouble.
Given we had close to 60 million voters for the R candidate, it would probably be easier to mobilize on a peaceful footing with real results. Not sure how the war proposal will inspire those unwilling to take action now with obviously fewer deleterious consequences.
The thing is Red China needs us to keep buying what they make, if they nuke us, they lose a huge market. Still, if they try to take us down, we must be reads to take them with us. We are in uncharted waters but I believe there is no mathematical way to pay off the debt, unless we print a 20 trillion dollar bill or something (that might not work either but when all else looks bad, well?), we might just as well default and reboot.
The only part of the article I disagree with is that it was “peacetime” debt. We’ve been in a cold war with communism for many decades, while they put their pawns in the government, schools and the media; laying their legislative roadside bombs the whole while. Their “H-bomb” was getting Obama elected, and it may very well turn into a “hot” war.
Thanks for the link!
I have a way to go, but have many nickels.
I see a Civil War coming. We just can’t sustain this kind of spending! We’re already broke! Tax hikes without spending cuts in this new supposed “fiscal cliff” deal! Our rights being trampled, our guns being threatened. Not that I’m a big gun lover, but our Constitution protects our right to bear arms. Not for hunting, but as protection against an oppressive government. Obama has been the absolute best thing for gun sales which are through the roof as is ammunition sales.
First post for 2013
...and from SHTF....
Happy New Year blam.
The BBC did a story a few months ago noting that there is double digit food price inflation in the world (15 percent rate).
Food isn’t included in the inflation stats here in the US, but back in 2011 the story from Australia was that food price inflation was running at 15 percent.
I make up the grocery list every week and read the prices and packages when I shop.
Food prices are going up either by the same package costing more or a new smaller package costing the same or slightly less.
THE BIG CULPRIT IN THIS IS THE USE OF FOOD TO MAKE FUEL (EHTANOL).
I'm lookin for a way off this planet and I'm not thinkin about suicide, either because that's a sin IMO!!!
If he's right... true peace is only gonna come from one place... you figure it out... Happy New Years and years and years, everybody, may you live in peace that passeth understanding!!!
The debt can be paid back, but the debt owners would have settle on getting just the principle back and forego any, and all, interest.
Even then, it would take 500 years for all this debt to be paid back by everybody.
Yes. It is the inevitable fate of fascist states to have to invade their neighbors right after they have destroyed their own wealth.
They need their neighbor’s resources to keep the party going.
Canada has vast untapped natural resources.
Mexico has a vast underutilized labor force.
The leaders do have other options like the “botox Evita” of Argentina Kirchner did a few years back.
She seized all the private pension funds and combined them with the country’s Social Security system.
All that 401k and pension money in this country is still untapped to feed the monster.........
Yep. Inevitable doesn’t mean next. The USofA hasn’t yet had all its own wealth destroyed.
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