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Illinois clergy endorse gay marriage bill
Chicago Tribune ^ | December 24, 2012 | Manya A. Brachear

Posted on 12/28/2012 5:11:18 AM PST by 1010RD

Edited on 12/28/2012 5:14:39 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

More than 250 Illinois clergy — most of them in the Chicago area — have endorsed a gay marriage bill that could come up for a vote in Springfield before Jan. 9.

On Sunday, rabbis and pastors from denominations that support gay rights in varying degrees unveiled a declaration supporting equality for same-sex couples. Fostering faith, justice and compassion is a key component of their jobs, they said.


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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: celebraterperversity; celebratesin; chicago; cultureofcorruption; homosexualagenda; religiousleft; samesexmarriage
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At the heart of this is the question - is homosexuality normal or abnormal? If it is normal then same-gender attraction must be tolerated and given the same standing as historical man/woman marriage.

Normal is defined as: 1.usual: conforming to the usual standard, type, or custom 2.healthy: physically, mentally, and emotionally healthy 3.occurring naturally: maintained or occurring in a natural state

We know that homosexuality occurs naturally. There is no homosexual gene, but epigenetic changes affecting hormones and a child's environment seem to be the cause of homosexuality. It occurs in some animal species, but is an evolutionary dead end.

Is it usual? No, homosexuality is rare and unusual. Heterosexuality is common and usual. There are no successful civilizations built on homosexuality. The history of humankind is heterosexual. So in this case homosexuality is abnormal.

Is it healthy? No, homosexuality is not healthy from a physical standpoint and homosexuals suffer from a variety of diseases directly related to their sexual practices. Homosexuality is not mentally healthy. See the DSM prior to 1972. Also see WBEZ's This American Life for Ira Glass' excellent episode on how the APA changed homosexuality from a mental illness listed in the DSM based not on any science, but on emotion and politics: http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/204/81-words

It is also not emotionally healthy as seen in the suicide rate, drug and alcohol abuse rate and physical abuse rate in the homosexual community. Keep in mind that homosexuals are a very small subset of the human population, but a very large subset of the above groups. Even the term "gay" is an intentional misnomer created by those with same-gender attraction to describe their misery.

Given the above we should not be indulging those with same-sex attractions or encouraging more of it, but lovingly treating those with same-gender attraction. It remains a mental illness despite the politics and emotion surrounding the issue and is treatable as those who have left the lifestyle will attest.

1 posted on 12/28/2012 5:11:21 AM PST by 1010RD
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Also note that the bill endorses “gender identity” so that the mental illness of transvestitism or transexuality are also “normalized”.

Can you imagine the Pandora’s Box of problems that come with nomalizing a person who thinks they’re the wrong sex?


2 posted on 12/28/2012 5:14:20 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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but lovingly treating those with same-gender attraction. It remains a mental illness

BS! It is not a mental illness - you bought the lie! It is pure evil!

3 posted on 12/28/2012 5:16:25 AM PST by presently no screen name
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250 Leaders of Apostate Churches Endorse Gay Marriage Bill

Sorry, had to ACCURATELY correct the header!

4 posted on 12/28/2012 5:20:23 AM PST by ICE-FLYER (God bless and keep the United States of America)
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Glad you pointed that out....how many of the established church leaders follow this concept....zero.


5 posted on 12/28/2012 5:23:02 AM PST by Mouton (108th MI Group.....68-71)
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"Fostering faith, justice and compassion is a key component of their jobs, they said."

Really? Faith in what, precisely? Certainly not scripture. Sounds like those 250 people chose the wrong line of work.
6 posted on 12/28/2012 5:24:48 AM PST by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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I disagree with your assertion of homosexuality occurring “naturally!”

Hormones swings of high concentrations do not change your sex. They do not “cause” you to become homosexual, that is a choice. It may even be that “feelings” or “motivations” are strong. You may be “aroused” by seeing nakedness of the same sex and not of the opposite sex...it does NOT make you homosexual. It is an out of balance condition that when balanced changes everything you “feel.” Whether or not you act on it, when you go in that direction against what you later established firmly as abnormal then says you are homosexual or not. It is a choice, notwithstanding the feelings...you must act.


7 posted on 12/28/2012 5:25:20 AM PST by ICE-FLYER (God bless and keep the United States of America)
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presuming the epigenetic thesis is correct, homosexuality is correctable!
8 posted on 12/28/2012 5:25:44 AM PST by muawiyah
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It’s a CHOICE. JMHO.


9 posted on 12/28/2012 5:27:17 AM PST by FES0844
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mad cow disease occurs naturally. primal dwarfism involves no more than a single basepair for example, so absence of high frequency of occurrence does not make something non existent at the level of DNA.

We are near to having technology available to correct DNA problems ~ in fact, glucophage and glipizide appear to work by rewriting DNA in the cell nucleus ~ and they've been around a good 20 years.

When the CURE appears on the market in pill form we'll still have folks wandering about telling us that it's a choice ~ and they'll refuse to take their pills.

We will have to make the cure mandatory.

10 posted on 12/28/2012 5:31:28 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: PowderMonkey

and they in turn are misleading their congregations, too, so there will be a special place in hell for them.

God does reign supreme, and He will hold them accountable!


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