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White House Says It Has No New Fiscal Cliff Plan
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Posted on 12/27/2012 5:08:36 PM PST by Sub-Driver

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"The republicans now must play the only card they have. Shut the government down. Let's find out if the constitutional separation of powers actually works."

oldbrowser, do you think republicans will really do this?

Interesting.

41 posted on 12/28/2012 7:36:47 AM PST by hummingbird
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oldbrowser, do you think republicans will really do this?

I doubt it. They will let Obama drag them through the mud. Just as long as they don't lose their office.
I believe that Obama and many others sense that this is the time for the marxists to strike hard and make permanent changes to the country.

42 posted on 12/28/2012 7:44:52 AM PST by oldbrowser (They are marxists, don't call them democrats)
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Let me explain the politics here - since no one else is willing/able to do so.

The Republicans lost Congress in 2006 because Bush pushed Amnesty so hard and left the base demoralized. When the base in demoralized they don’t vote...that simple. In 2012, the Republicans ran a guy that would have only been somewhat better than Obama (at best). The base was demoralized, they didn’t vote...that simple.

Now we’re looking at 2014. Obama knows that a highly motivated Republican base will come out and vote, and hold the House. But if Obama can separate the Republican Leadership from the base (i.e., Tea Party), then the Dems get the House back.

Next question is how to do that. The easy way is to get the Republican Leadership to tell the Tea Party to take a hike - and the way to do that is a two-step process:

1) Install a bunch of Metrosexuals as advisers to the Republican Leadership. Check. That has already been done, obviously. Their job is to accomplish #2.

2) Get enough Republicans in the House to vote Obama’s way, by putting them in terror of the dreaded “Independents”. “We MUST not anger these Independents”, the Metrosexuals tell the leadership, “we must do as the president says, they say”.

But they know, FULL WELL, that if the Tea Party sees the Republicans cave now, they will simply stay home - and the permanent Democrat majority for the next generation, at the least, will be born.

So this is it. If we want our base to come out in 2014, we stand up to the president. If we want our base to stay home in 2014. to give the Democrats the House, then we do just as Obama wants.


43 posted on 12/28/2012 11:30:30 AM PST by BobL (Agenda 21...Agenda 21...Agenda 21...Agenda 21...Agenda 21... (whatever the hell that is))
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