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White House Says It Has No New Fiscal Cliff Plan
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Posted on 12/27/2012 5:08:36 PM PST by Sub-Driver

White House Says It Has No New Fiscal Cliff Plan

By JON KARL, SUNLEN MILLER (@sunlenmiller) , JOHN PARKINSON (@jparkABC) and SARAH PARNASS (@wordsofsarah) Dec. 27, 2012

The White House said today it has no plans to offer new proposals to avoid the fiscal cliff which looms over the country's economy just five days from now, but will meet Friday with Congressional leaders in a last ditch effort to forge a deal.

Republicans and Democrats made no conciliatory gestures in public today, despite the urgency.

The White House said President Obama would meet Friday with Democratic and Republican leaders. But a spokesman for House Speaker John Boehner said the Republican "will continue to stress that the House has already passed legislation to avert the entire fiscal cliff and now the Senate must act."

The White House announced the meeting after Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., called the budget situation "a mess" and urged the president to present a fresh proposal.

"I told the president I would be happy to look at whatever he proposes, but the truth is we're coming up against a hard deadline here, and as I said, this is a conversation we should have had months ago," McConnell said of his phone call with Obama Wednesday night.

McConnell added, "Republicans aren't about to write a blank check for anything Senate Democrats put forward just because we find ourselves at the edge of the cliff."

"That having been said, we'll see what the president has to propose," the Republican Senate leader said.

(Excerpt) Read more at abcnews.go.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cliff; fail; noplan; zilch
Typical, no leadership. The usual FAIL.
1 posted on 12/27/2012 5:08:47 PM PST by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver
So Obama sat down at the table and smiled: Repeat after me he said "You won"

And then he said....I can't hear you....repeat that....

He's just one big Chicago style pr***....

2 posted on 12/27/2012 5:14:35 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Sub-Driver

Their plan is to pull the country over the “cliff” and blame it on the Pubs.


3 posted on 12/27/2012 5:15:25 PM PST by glorgau
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To: Sub-Driver

Obama offered a plan this AM and Scott Brown leaked the news and now the Kenyan and his winged monkey are backtracking and saying there wasn’t an offer.


4 posted on 12/27/2012 5:16:50 PM PST by jimbo123
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To: Sub-Driver

Who needs a NEW fiscal cliff plan. The old one seems to be getting us there just fine.


5 posted on 12/27/2012 5:17:02 PM PST by PapaNew
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To: Sub-Driver
No new plan? That means he's sticking with the old plan, huh? Intentionally pushing us over the cliff by rejecting any offer that is put to him?

Such a surprise.

6 posted on 12/27/2012 5:17:22 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (Republicans have made themselves useless, toothless, and clueless.)
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To: Sub-Driver; All

Everyone in the liberal media and many here on FR (sad to say) have been blaming John Boehner...whereas HE has been the only leader on Capitol Hill who has been putting proposals together....

The blame is 95 percent on Obama and the Senate Democrats. Obama budgets...ZERO VOTES...he couldn’t even get his own party to vote for it. Senate Democrats have not passed a budget in 3-plus YEARS.


7 posted on 12/27/2012 5:19:01 PM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: Sub-Driver

The White House is getting EXACTLY what it wants with sequestration.

- Taxes go up (more revenue)
- Massive Defense cuts (liberals dream)
- Entitlements continues to grow.
- Republicans get all the blame.

Boehner and McConnell are clowns. They couldn’t lead a boy scout troup out of a parking lot.


8 posted on 12/27/2012 5:19:15 PM PST by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: Sub-Driver

The only plan the administration has ever had, the only plan the democrats have ever had, is tax and spend. Tax the productive, buy the votes of the deadbeats. Lather, Rinse, Repeat. That’s all they know. They’re the National Socialist party of the United States after all.


9 posted on 12/27/2012 5:19:43 PM PST by meyer (Proud member of the 53%.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Boehner is one of the guys who agreed to sequestration. He is an idiot.

http://www.slate.com/articles/business/moneybox/2012/09/sequestration_both_parties_agree_it_ll_hurt_the_economy_so_they_should_agree_to_repeal_it_.html


10 posted on 12/27/2012 5:23:09 PM PST by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: Sub-Driver

On the news today I heard the following conversation:

Rep: Asks MSM Pimp girl who was House speaker when Herbert Hoover as president?

MSM pimp girl: I dunno.

Rep: Think about it.


11 posted on 12/27/2012 5:23:45 PM PST by RetiredTexasVet (Save the nation, have your family's progressives spayed or neutered.)
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To: Sub-Driver

This clown couldn’t run a sidewalk lemonade stand business. No planning. No organization. No directing. No control. Incompetent staffing.

Thug scum like him can only threaten, attack, and blame others when everything fails.


12 posted on 12/27/2012 5:29:52 PM PST by Proud2BeRight
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To: Sub-Driver

Evil always has a plan. Maybe not a “fiscal cliff” plan, but a plan, nonetheless.


13 posted on 12/27/2012 5:30:40 PM PST by RobinOfKingston (Democrats--the party of Evil. Republicans--the party of Stupid.)
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To: SoFloFreeper
I'll give Boehner credit for trying. In any event, Obama is overplaying his hand. If we go over the cliff and there is blame to go around, the President will have the most visibility. Boehner will be able to say he tried, and as much as the press will try to blame the conservatives / Tea Partiers in Congress, there is no single individual on whom they can focus.

In a worst-case scenario, the GOP can hold leadership elections in a year, and start with a mostly new slate. Meanwhile, Obama would be devoting all of his energy to these negotiations.

14 posted on 12/27/2012 5:32:04 PM PST by Cu Roi
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To: Sub-Driver

Kabuki theater at it’s best.


15 posted on 12/27/2012 5:33:48 PM PST by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: Sub-Driver

White House Says It Has No Plan

Fixed the title


16 posted on 12/27/2012 5:40:04 PM PST by wrench
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To: Cu Roi

If we go over the cliff and there is blame to go around, the President will have the most visibility.


If a couple hundred billion is cut from defense and taxes are raised the deficit will go down in the short term. The dims/presstitutes will focus on that and blame all the bad economic stuff on the GOP.


17 posted on 12/27/2012 5:42:05 PM PST by lodi90
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To: Sub-Driver
The White House said today it has no plans to offer new proposals to avoid the fiscal cliff which looms over the country's economy just five days from now, but will meet Friday with Congressional leaders in a last ditch effort to forge a deal.

How does one "forge a deal" when one goes to the negotiating table with NOTHING?

18 posted on 12/27/2012 5:48:30 PM PST by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: Sub-Driver

There is no downside for Obama when we go over the cliff...

He gets to raise revenue so not to crash against the debt ceiling

He gets to cut the military which he loathes....

He gets to blame republicans which might win him the house in 2014...

Even if there was a bill to sign.... Obama would not sign it.... Pick any pathetic reason you want....

We are going over...


19 posted on 12/27/2012 5:50:49 PM PST by JZoback
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To: Sub-Driver

Obama’s plan is the destruction of America.

Any path will do.

Sign nothing short of his full demands, or let Sequestration prevail?

He wins either way and will blame Republicans either way.

Jail is too good....


20 posted on 12/27/2012 5:54:54 PM PST by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: Sub-Driver

If Obama is not issuing new proposals, he might as well be on strike. He is not doing his job, which is to avert crises.

Obama is the one man in America at whose desk the buck stops — not John Boehner or Mitch McConnell, who are merely legislators representing a district and a state, jobs which they’re doing well by standing firm on taxes as they promised their constituents they would do if elected.

The problem is that Obama has no executive abilities, such as successfully resolving conflicts, because he has had no executive experience. He might as well be asked to perform brain surgery, which he also has no experience doing, as being asked now to successfully lead budget negotiations to a responsible conclusion — something he has not been able to do for the past three-plus years since we have not had a budget during that time.

The only realistic alternative to going over the cliff in four days would be for Obama to ask the leaders of his bi-partisan budget commission — Alan Simpson and Erskine Bowles — to come to Washington and present another iteration of their bi-partisan proposals. Which every Congressman and Senator should then support in order to save the country from financial collapse. But it’s a fantasy to think Obama would care enough about our country to do such a thing.


21 posted on 12/27/2012 5:55:24 PM PST by Bluestocking
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To: Sub-Driver
White House Says It Has No New Fiscal Cliff Plan

Other than destroying this nation, has this regime ever had a plan?!?

22 posted on 12/27/2012 5:59:56 PM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Bryan24
Boehner and McConnell are clowns. They couldn’t lead a boy scout troup out of a parking lot

Nobody could have resolved this problem. The two sides are diametrically opposed and the administration has most of the cards and the msm on their side. The republicans have demonstrated willingness to bend backwards and forwards and it hasn't been good enough.

The republicans now must play the only card they have. Shut the government down. Let's find out if the constitutional separation of powers actually works.

23 posted on 12/27/2012 6:09:39 PM PST by oldbrowser (They are marxists, don't call them democrats)
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To: Sub-Driver
Nonsense.

Obama offered a deal to the Senate today. He doesn't want to own it.

He'll pretend that the deal worked out Friday was the work of the Congress because it will likely offer concessions.

He doesn't want his base to know that he was the one offering the concessions.

24 posted on 12/27/2012 6:18:19 PM PST by what's up
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To: SoFloFreeper
The blame is 95 percent on Obama and the Senate Democrats. Obama budgets...ZERO VOTES...he couldn’t even get his own party to vote for it. Senate Democrats have not passed a budget in 3-plus YEARS.

Exactly right.

Whoever offers a deal first opens himself up to attacks from the other side.

This is why the Dems never offer one. It will be so obvious that they offer garbage.

This is also why Obama is lying today by saying he didn't offer a deal to the Senate. He doesn't want it examined and the blame put on him by either the left or right.

25 posted on 12/27/2012 6:21:54 PM PST by what's up
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To: Sub-Driver

One side or the other, is going to go to bat for American workers.

Or one party will be replaced by another which will.

What’s it going to be GOP?

Foreign sell-outs and eventual collapse?

Or start supporting American companies?

Which is it?


26 posted on 12/27/2012 6:25:02 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: what's up

ZerO’s plan is to demagogue and buy votes.


27 posted on 12/27/2012 6:38:04 PM PST by depressed in 06 (America conceived in liberty, dies in slavery.)
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To: Sub-Driver

“The White House said today it has no plans to offer new proposals”

Never did, never will.


28 posted on 12/27/2012 6:42:04 PM PST by jivin gene (Breakin' up is hard to do)
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To: Sub-Driver

The RNC should bomb the airwaves over the next few days (during the bowl games and on Daytime TV) with a couple of plain-spoken ads talking about what the problem is, its enormity, and the consequences to small business if the upper bracket threshold is too low.

Obama has the bully pulpit, and the average American does not ever hear the other side unless they are political junkies.


29 posted on 12/27/2012 6:48:00 PM PST by Andy from Chapel Hill
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To: Cu Roi
Obama is overplaying his hand. If we go over the cliff and there is blame to go around, the President will have the most visibility.

I fully agree with your thoughts. Once this pain becomes widespread and tangible--the rabble will begin to look around for a face to pin the blame on. So, far they have largely been shielded from Obama's policies. The best thing that can happen is they get to really feel the pain of what they've voted for.

30 posted on 12/27/2012 6:48:35 PM PST by riri (Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Boehner has called the House back in session for Sunday.

At that time we will find out the White House plan when Boehner agrees to it.


31 posted on 12/27/2012 6:56:09 PM PST by Venturer
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To: Bluestocking

Obama has a plan and Boehner will agree to it.

Why else would bath house barry have left Hawaii early-—unless it was to get away from the Wookie and have a week with a “friend”.


32 posted on 12/27/2012 6:59:42 PM PST by Venturer
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To: Sub-Driver

Well, it is time they developed a plan.


33 posted on 12/27/2012 7:02:10 PM PST by The_Media_never_lie (Actually, they lie when it suits them! The crooked MS media must be defeated any way it can be done!)
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To: Sub-Driver
Rest easy. All bullshit. They will find some pseudo-solution that will kick the can...
34 posted on 12/27/2012 7:24:37 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Sub-Driver

Does this mean the beloved Clinton tax rates were onerous?


35 posted on 12/27/2012 8:50:46 PM PST by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Fundamental motivating principle,to wit: Socialist Autocrat Obama cannot countenance any diminution in the rate of transfer of private wealth to the central government, nor in the rate of spending by the central government.


36 posted on 12/27/2012 9:13:23 PM PST by Elsiejay
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To: Sub-Driver
What do you expect from a community organizer that never even ran so much as a lemonade stand EVER.
With a LSM that never reports any thing negative about the scum.
I am mad as hell at Mittens especially after his son let the cat out of the bag. I hate his guts.
37 posted on 12/28/2012 4:36:21 AM PST by DeaconRed (How did Hitler accomplish what he did? He started with disarming the German people first.)
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To: Sub-Driver

The only plan Obama ever has is to blame someone else for his failures. It’s his Plan B — for blame.


38 posted on 12/28/2012 4:51:13 AM PST by jersey117
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To: Sub-Driver
The Mayan calendar predicted the fiscal cliff.
39 posted on 12/28/2012 7:19:11 AM PST by hummingbird
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To: Bluestocking
"If Obama is not issuing new proposals, he might as well be on strike. He is not doing his job, which is to avert crises."

Will he take the Executive Order scenario?

40 posted on 12/28/2012 7:31:17 AM PST by hummingbird
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To: oldbrowser
"The republicans now must play the only card they have. Shut the government down. Let's find out if the constitutional separation of powers actually works."

oldbrowser, do you think republicans will really do this?

Interesting.

41 posted on 12/28/2012 7:36:47 AM PST by hummingbird
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To: hummingbird
oldbrowser, do you think republicans will really do this?

I doubt it. They will let Obama drag them through the mud. Just as long as they don't lose their office.
I believe that Obama and many others sense that this is the time for the marxists to strike hard and make permanent changes to the country.

42 posted on 12/28/2012 7:44:52 AM PST by oldbrowser (They are marxists, don't call them democrats)
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To: Sub-Driver

Let me explain the politics here - since no one else is willing/able to do so.

The Republicans lost Congress in 2006 because Bush pushed Amnesty so hard and left the base demoralized. When the base in demoralized they don’t vote...that simple. In 2012, the Republicans ran a guy that would have only been somewhat better than Obama (at best). The base was demoralized, they didn’t vote...that simple.

Now we’re looking at 2014. Obama knows that a highly motivated Republican base will come out and vote, and hold the House. But if Obama can separate the Republican Leadership from the base (i.e., Tea Party), then the Dems get the House back.

Next question is how to do that. The easy way is to get the Republican Leadership to tell the Tea Party to take a hike - and the way to do that is a two-step process:

1) Install a bunch of Metrosexuals as advisers to the Republican Leadership. Check. That has already been done, obviously. Their job is to accomplish #2.

2) Get enough Republicans in the House to vote Obama’s way, by putting them in terror of the dreaded “Independents”. “We MUST not anger these Independents”, the Metrosexuals tell the leadership, “we must do as the president says, they say”.

But they know, FULL WELL, that if the Tea Party sees the Republicans cave now, they will simply stay home - and the permanent Democrat majority for the next generation, at the least, will be born.

So this is it. If we want our base to come out in 2014, we stand up to the president. If we want our base to stay home in 2014. to give the Democrats the House, then we do just as Obama wants.


43 posted on 12/28/2012 11:30:30 AM PST by BobL (Agenda 21...Agenda 21...Agenda 21...Agenda 21...Agenda 21... (whatever the hell that is))
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