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Newspaper Publishes Gun Owners’ Names and Addresses
abc news ^ | Dec 24, 2012 | By Colleen Curry

Posted on 12/25/2012 6:07:09 AM PST by Not gonna take it anymore

A newspaper in New York has received a wave of criticism from its readers after publishing the names and addresses of all of the individuals with handgun or pistol permits in its coverage area.

Hundreds of residents in New York’s Westchester and Rockland counties were surprised to find their names and addresses listed on a map posted by The Journal News on Sunday. Users can click any dot on the map to see which of their neighbors has a permit for a gun.

The map sparked more than 500 comments from readers within a day of its appearance on the website, many of them voicing outrage at the paper’s decision to make the information public.

“This is CRAZY!! why in the world would you post every licensed gun owner information?? What do you hope to accomplish by doing this. This is the type of thing you do for sex offenders not law abiding gun owners. What next? should i hang a flag outside my house that says I own a gun? I am canceling my subscription with your paper today!!!” said commenter Curtis Maenza.

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KEYWORDS: banglist; guncontrol; gunrights; secondamendment; yellowjournalism
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http://www.lohud.com/interactive/article/20121223/NEWS01/121221011/Map-Where-gun-permits-your-neighborhood-

link to The Journal News article which published the names and addresses with an interactive map of some carry permits which are outdated.

Quite the uproar going on.

1 posted on 12/25/2012 6:07:19 AM PST by Not gonna take it anymore
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2 posted on 12/25/2012 6:08:39 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Not gonna take it anymore

link didn’t work. Try this.

http://www.lohud.com/interactive/article/20121223/NEWS01/121221011/Map-Where-gun-permits-your-neighborhood-


3 posted on 12/25/2012 6:10:36 AM PST by Not gonna take it anymore (If Obama were twice as smart as he is, he would be a wit)
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To: Travis McGee

One of the questions asked is why would a paper do this.

The answer is simple -—intimidation.

Another sentence stated that this is what is done for sex offenders. This newspaper equates gun owners with sex offenders. In their minds one is as bad as the other.

Evidently this paper feels it can survive without the business given them by gun owners and Conservatives. They feel they can make it with the liberal trade.

Maybe they can liberals seem to have the momentum these days.


4 posted on 12/25/2012 6:13:58 AM PST by Venturer
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To: Not gonna take it anymore
Reason #5000 why none of my guns are registered. Not needed in Texas when I bought them and most were sold to other individuals years ago.
5 posted on 12/25/2012 6:14:15 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (0 bummer inherited a worse economy in 2012 than he did in 2008.)
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To: Not gonna take it anymore

I haven’t really thought it through, bu my initial impression is, I don’t think I’d care. In fact, I might be inclined to apply for a permit just to have it published, i.e., “Don’t mess with this guy!”


6 posted on 12/25/2012 6:14:43 AM PST by Nevermore (...just a typical cracker, clinging to my Constitutional rights...)
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To: Not gonna take it anymore
The Journal News said its readers “are understandably interested to know about guns in their neighborhoods,” because of the conversation about gun control on its website after the shooting in Newtown, Conn., last week.

What progressive "smarm".

7 posted on 12/25/2012 6:15:24 AM PST by MissMagnolia
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To: MissMagnolia

A map of the safest houses in the area


8 posted on 12/25/2012 6:16:25 AM PST by scooby321 (AMS)
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To: MissMagnolia

A map of the safest houses in the area


9 posted on 12/25/2012 6:16:36 AM PST by scooby321 (AMS)
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To: Venturer
Maybe the papers are just trying to survive long enough until they are tax funded and government subsidized.
10 posted on 12/25/2012 6:17:06 AM PST by jdsteel (Give me freedom, not more government.)
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To: Venturer

The socialists might be doing a good job at stampeding the sheeple these days, but we still have the guns.

Molon labe!


11 posted on 12/25/2012 6:18:36 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Nevermore

If you are a criminal in need of a gun, now you know where to find one.


12 posted on 12/25/2012 6:19:19 AM PST by DaiHuy (May God save the country, for it is evident the people will not! Millard Fillmore)
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To: Travis McGee

Just 12 days ago, Jimmie Hoffa Jr. told us we’re going to have a civil war, and you can’t really have a proper war without assault weapons.


13 posted on 12/25/2012 6:20:09 AM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Arrowhead1952

Gun registration is a moot point today, in the era of data-mining.

If you ever bought a rifle mag or ammo with a credit card, they know what you have got. And me, and all of us.


14 posted on 12/25/2012 6:20:23 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Not gonna take it anymore

A road map for criminals of where NOT to go:

https://twitter.com/paige5paige/status/228861798701481985/photo/1


15 posted on 12/25/2012 6:20:23 AM PST by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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To: Not gonna take it anymore

All the people that work for this paper should have their address, phone number, stock holdings and such published. The first amendment people should have had their data published first, that is unless they publish with a quill pin.


16 posted on 12/25/2012 6:21:56 AM PST by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: MissMagnolia

So there is no doubt, I proudly fly my Gadsden flag every day in front of my home. No one in my neighborhood has complained to me or seems to care. Few of them own guns, some don’t but they know when the SHTF, they will be under the aegis of whatever protection I can provide.

One more point, with the exception of the doc who got his medical training paid for by joining the military, no one in eye sight of my home is a veteran, kind of annoys me but I go with the flow as long as that flow does not try to back up on me.


17 posted on 12/25/2012 6:22:40 AM PST by Mouton (108th MI Group.....68-71)
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To: Not gonna take it anymore

if there is ANY increase in home break-ins over the next month or so, and those homes just happen to NOT own a gun... I would sue that paper for giving the criminals a list of safe homes to hit


18 posted on 12/25/2012 6:23:05 AM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: Travis McGee

That is one reason I carry cash when I buy ammo. Never use a credit card for ammo these days. It’s probably been 20 years since I paid for ammo with a card, and that was most likely .22 or 12 gage bird shot.


19 posted on 12/25/2012 6:25:58 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (0 bummer inherited a worse economy in 2012 than he did in 2008.)
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To: MissMagnolia

One paper in Florida did this a few years ago with the Names and Addresses of licensed Concealed Carry people. Of course it is available from the state if you are so inclined. Try to get any ID of someone off their Driver’s License record and LOL with that though.

The only exception was for those who had requested confidentiality due to prior law enforcement experiance. Fortunately those did not get published.

The more I think about these activities, the more my blood boils.


20 posted on 12/25/2012 6:27:03 AM PST by Mouton (108th MI Group.....68-71)
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To: scooby321
A map of the safest houses in the area

A map of which homes can be defended by guns is also a map of which homes are defenseless. Thieves and rapists in the area applaud the newspaper's decision.

Stupid liberals inviting their obamaphone fellow voters to come burgle, rape and kill them.

21 posted on 12/25/2012 6:28:42 AM PST by Sirius Lee (Sarah Palin - "Republicans like Rove... are said to be concerned she will win.")
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To: Mouton

Ha! Half my street is retired or active duty Army.

Just a WAG based on observation, my entire neighborhood is pretty much the same.

Well, living just outside Ft Bragg, NC helps the statistics.


22 posted on 12/25/2012 6:29:14 AM PST by PeteB570 ( Islam is the sea in which the Terrorist Shark swims. The deeper the sea the larger the shark.)
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To: Travis McGee; All





23 posted on 12/25/2012 6:29:58 AM PST by MestaMachine (It's the !!!!TREASON!!!!, stupid!)
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To: Not gonna take it anymore

Good. They should be criminally charged and prosecuted. I hope they get their a$$es sued off into closure.


24 posted on 12/25/2012 6:30:48 AM PST by SueRae (It isn't over. In God We Trust.)
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To: Arrowhead1952

If I was a non gun owner in these areas I’d be suing the paper, they just became an easy mark for criminals.


25 posted on 12/25/2012 6:31:01 AM PST by DAC21
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To: MissMagnolia
The Journal News said its readers “are understandably interested to know about guns in their neighborhoods,” because of the conversation about gun control on its website after the shooting in Newtown, Conn., last week.

I can't tell you how bleeping tired I am of hearing this latest liberal buzz-word "conversation". There is no "conversation" with liberals; only propaganda. When this liberal rag of a paper can explain why it's ok for the Sidwell Friends to have 11 armed guards, but wrong for the great unwashed of America; then we can have a "conversation".

26 posted on 12/25/2012 6:34:42 AM PST by Flick Lives (We're going to be just like the old Soviet Union, but with free cell phones!)
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To: Travis McGee
"If you ever bought a rifle mag or ammo with a credit card, they know what you have got. And me, and all of us."

That's true for recent purchases -- but firearms are designed to be robust and withstand hard use. Pretty much everyone (except my dad!) who returned from WW2 came back with a Luger or K-98. My own state has required permits for pistol purchases since the 1960s, but the permits are still paper with multiple carbon copies. The amount of time and effort to track down everything would be astronomical. And guaranteed to be inaccurate -- the state can't even handle annual vehicle registration renewals without an incredibly high error rate.

27 posted on 12/25/2012 6:34:57 AM PST by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: DaiHuy
If you are a criminal in need of a gun, now you know where to find one.

Conversely, if you are a criminal and want to know where the safe places are, just go the other houses which are unprotected!

28 posted on 12/25/2012 6:37:18 AM PST by TexasRedeye (Eschew obfuscation.)
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Look at it this way, now criminals know which houses they can rape, plunder, and pilege.
29 posted on 12/25/2012 6:37:40 AM PST by CityCenter (Compromise is the welcome mat to deception.)
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To: DAC21

A va newspaper tried. One of the names on the list spied on the editor found him having an affair and sent the pics to his wife and competing newspapers. The list was taken down


30 posted on 12/25/2012 6:38:24 AM PST by GreaterSwiss
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To: Not gonna take it anymore

Very wrong thing to do. They literally put peoples’ lives in jeopardy by doing that. Should be prosecuted. What about publishing all owners of gold coins?


31 posted on 12/25/2012 6:38:39 AM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: Not gonna take it anymore

Comments don’t come up. Of course. I sure hope they don’t mind when their reporters, editors and publisher’s names and addresses are published with equal gusto.


32 posted on 12/25/2012 6:41:00 AM PST by SueRae (It isn't over. In God We Trust.)
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To: Not gonna take it anymore

This shows the true philosophy of the “Great Unifier” political party. Seems like all these people do is find ways to divide this nation.


33 posted on 12/25/2012 6:41:17 AM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: Sooth2222

They will wait for an amnesty period, and then conduct a number of splashy “mini-wacos” against bitter clingers who have expressed the idea that they will resist rather than submit to confiscation.

That will be the tactic of choice, to cow the rest into submission, but instead of submission, it will trigger CW2, if they go that way.


34 posted on 12/25/2012 6:41:47 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Mouton
One paper in Florida did this a few years ago with the Names and Addresses of licensed Concealed Carry people.

An Orlando TV station did this. And folks looked online and found the station manager and others information from the property appraisers website and promptly posted as much private information as possible about them on the web.

It was only a day or so later their gun owner list then came down.

35 posted on 12/25/2012 6:42:27 AM PST by VeniVidiVici (Bathhouse Barry wants YOU to bend over for another four years)
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To: Not gonna take it anymore

Simple and effective response:

As many permit holders as possible should go to each and very advertiser of the paper, stand in a conspicuous PUBLIC spot and tell each and every passerby, “I’ve got a gun...permit.”


36 posted on 12/25/2012 6:42:39 AM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (Bread and Circuses; Everyone to the Coliseum!)
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To: Travis McGee

PS: Imagine how many gun safes will be rigged to explode in the event of confiscation raids actually happening? They’ll need to send EOD along with every gun confiscation SWAT raid.


37 posted on 12/25/2012 6:42:59 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: DaiHuy

The odds of getting the bullets first are just too great. The occupational hazards of home invasion.


38 posted on 12/25/2012 6:43:47 AM PST by EandH Dad (sleeping giants wake up REALLY grumpy)
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To: GreaterSwiss

Publish/GoogleMap the names & addresses of the liberal creeps who work for that newspaper. Crooks can then assume that those homes are gun-free.

“What’s sauce for the goose........”


39 posted on 12/25/2012 6:44:06 AM PST by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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To: Not gonna take it anymore
This was posted yesterday afternoon with 129 comments: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2972034/posts

In that post there are two interesting replies:

I almost feel sorry for the newspaper publisher.

40 posted on 12/25/2012 6:45:29 AM PST by upchuck (America's at an awkward stage. Too late to work within the system, too early to shoot the bastards.)
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To: GreaterSwiss

That response made my day.


41 posted on 12/25/2012 6:46:10 AM PST by SueRae (It isn't over. In God We Trust.)
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To: elcid1970

See #40.


42 posted on 12/25/2012 6:46:18 AM PST by upchuck (America's at an awkward stage. Too late to work within the system, too early to shoot the bastards.)
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To: Travis McGee

or whole houses


43 posted on 12/25/2012 6:47:29 AM PST by riverrunner
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To: Nevermore
In fact, I might be inclined to apply for a permit just to have it published, i.e., “Don’t mess with this guy!”

Exactly. It is the criminal's equivalent of a "Do not call" list for home invasions.

44 posted on 12/25/2012 6:50:07 AM PST by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: Not gonna take it anymore

...the editor should have all his (or her) information made public...address, phone number, email,.....


45 posted on 12/25/2012 6:51:16 AM PST by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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The Democrat IL Attorney General last year wanted the names of Illinois gun owners published but was overruled by the Illinois Senate. Democrat Gov Quinn reluctantly signed the bill into law.

Illinois Governor Signs Bill Banning Release of Firearm Owners Names

Published July 03, 2011

Associated Press

CHICAGO — Gov. Pat Quinn on Saturday signed into law a measure barring the public from knowing who holds a firearm owner identification card in Illinois.

The bill, passed overwhelmingly by Illinois lawmakers in May, was a victory for gun owners who say they have a right to privacy over open-government advocates who say such records should not be secret.

Quinn, who has said he agreed that the information should remain confidential, offered no immediate public comment Saturday, quietly announcing the bill signing by email to news outlets.

In a 42-1 vote, the Senate passed a measure overturning a ruling by Attorney General Lisa Madigan’s office that said the names are public under the state’s open records law. Madigan’s office issued the decree earlier this year after the Illinois State Police refused to release to The Associated Press the names of 1.3 million people who are registered to own firearms.

The AP’s request set off howls of protests from gun owners and the state police, who said they feared criminals would use the information to steal guns or target those who weren’t armed.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/07/03/illinois-governor-signs-bill-banning-release-firearm-owners-names/#ixzz2G4i6r2hW


46 posted on 12/25/2012 6:51:42 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: mountainlion

Someone that lives there should create a database that lists the names and adresses/phone numbers of every lawmaker, and their families, in NY state.

Until such a time that they pass a law making gun information NOT open to public record searches, the information should be plastered everywhere.


47 posted on 12/25/2012 6:56:32 AM PST by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: Travis McGee
If you ever bought a rifle mag or ammo with a credit card, they know what you have got. And me, and all of us.

They may know WHAT we all have, but they have no way of knowing who has the resolve to use them.

48 posted on 12/25/2012 6:59:03 AM PST by DeepInTheHeartOfTexas
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To: Not gonna take it anymore

I guess I am a little torn about having the gun owners names and addresses published.
The invasion of privacy is a problem, but it also lets the local crooks, criminals and thieves* know which houses are not hostile work places for them.

* not counting the elected crooks, criminals and thieves.


49 posted on 12/25/2012 7:03:35 AM PST by Tupelo (I'm an old man and most people hate me, but I don't like them either so that makes it all even.)
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To: GreaterSwiss

Good for them.


50 posted on 12/25/2012 7:07:07 AM PST by sport
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