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To: Wyatt's Torch

Uh, what am I missing?

There is no other way for a Senate bill to pass the House unless a majority votes for it, and the Democrats are in the minority. Therefore, certain Republicans would have to be guaranteed to vote for it to go along with all the Democrats who would vote for it.

Oh great...here’s a massive Democrat vote in lockstep like the little Bolsheviks they are, but lookee here, there’s a few Republicans who vote with the Bolsheviks, thereby causing it to pass and be foisted on America. When we KNOW for a fact that it is wrong on so many levels.

I guess some people don’t have to PUT ON blinders, they just live with them on all the time...


237 posted on 12/21/2012 7:44:39 AM PST by txrangerette ("hold to the truth...speak without fear". (Glenn Beck))
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To: txrangerette

“There is no other way for a Senate bill to pass the House unless a majority votes for it, and the Democrats are in the minority. Therefore, certain Republicans would have to be guaranteed to vote for it to go along with all the Democrats who would vote for it.”

No that is exactly what is going to happen. Some GOP senators are going to cave after we go over the cliff and they will pass a bi-partisan deal in the Senate. that will cause enough republicans in the House to break and join the Dems to pass a plan.

Like it or not. The House GOP led by Boehner marginalized themselves out of a deal with that fiasco last night. Doesn’t mean it was wrong to “stand on principle”. It’s just a fact.


238 posted on 12/21/2012 7:49:55 AM PST by Wyatt's Torch (I can explain it to you. I can't understand it for you.)
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To: txrangerette

Plans C, D, E and F

Posted by Jennifer Rubin on December 21, 2012 at 9:00 am

The House Republicans have joined the White House and Senate Democrats in the “don’t know how to govern” department, none of them coming up with a plan that can pass either body, let alone both. GOP aides on Capitol Hill seem genuinely baffled as to what comes next. Here are some possible scenarios.

Plan C: The White House and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) cook up a putrid bill (from conservatives’ standpoint), including tax hikes (in excess of Clinton-era rate hikes for the rich) and phony cuts. Reid jams it through the Senate. House Democrats announce they will support it unanimously, and the House Republicans are forced to swallow it or allow everyone’s taxes to go up.

Plan D: Reid and Obama can’t come up with anything to pass the Senate. They agree to extend the tax rates and hold off on the sequestration for 90 days, continuing to torture the entire country.

Plan E: Obama and House Speaker John Boehner reach a deal that a minority of House and Senate Republicans could support but that will command near unanimity among House and Senate Democrats. By definition it is worse than anything a majority of Republicans could agree upon.

Plan F: Boehner and the president return to the bargaining table. But now Boehner is in a worse bargaining position since he can’t provide enough votes to pass the House. They therefore jointly craft a bill that is less acceptable to the Republicans than prior offers but can gain the support of Republicans. (The notion that the president after last night’s fiasco will be compelled to move closer to Boehner is, well, fanciful. He has his foot on Republicans’ necks and he is not about to let up.)

There are probably some other scenarios, but, truth be told, there are no good ones. And if this is bad, imagine how horrendous the debt-ceiling talks will be.


241 posted on 12/21/2012 8:05:13 AM PST by Wyatt's Torch (I can explain it to you. I can't understand it for you.)
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