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To: SE Mom
So, let's see here...

What is the link in the chain of events that actually broke? The mother was by all accounts a good gun owner. She feared her son was nuts and dangerous. She may have tried to have him committed. Son got mad, went to the school he once attended, where Mom's friends worked, where she may have worked at one time and had some altercation. About his mother's plans? Don't know at this time. So he kills her, steals her guns, kills her friends, and kills as many of those kids she loved as he could.

Now, was it the mother's access to guns that are to blame? Note: He had to kill his own mother to get them.

No. The mother wanted to have him committed. But, wouldn't you know it? It's damn near impossible to have a person committed when they haven't tried to kill anyone yet. And who is trying to blame everything on guns?


The very people who made certain that crazy people are free to do as they please!
34 posted on 12/18/2012 2:55:28 PM PST by servo1969
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To: servo1969

That pretty much sums it up given what we know at this time.


45 posted on 12/18/2012 3:03:21 PM PST by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: servo1969
The very people who made certain that crazy people are free to do as they please!

Exactly.The very people,those fine,compassionate "progressives" who,30 or 40 years ago,saw to it that 75% of this nations public psych hospitals were shut down and who made it next to impossible for a well meaning relative to be granted "legal guardianship" over a disturbed person are at least partially responsible here.My 20 years in health care feature hundreds of stories along those very lines.Disgusting stories...some of which literally end in death and many others that featured incredible,unnecessary suffering.

57 posted on 12/18/2012 3:13:44 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (When Robbing Peter To Pay Paul,One Can Always Count On Paul's Cooperation)
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To: servo1969
One of the strangest most scary days of my life went like this:

Looking for a room as I was going to nursing school( my second degree back a long time ago). We( was with a friend) go to this home and it's dark, shaded weird windows) some broken, and smells of urine) and hear a television turned up and all way.It was the fuzzy sound when the TV is not on a channel but she insists the TV is on the right channel when my friend attempts to touch the TV.

She had six kids and was scared thinking we were"the fuzz or the social workers." Thus the reason it took her five minutes to answer the door.( Oh I looked in the home, and I won't go into detail of the ,"home," It was spooky weird)

It's dark inside, all windows are blacked out because she's telling us there's demons. I didn't notice at first but my friend has me back away from her. She's( the lady) slamming something into the couch over and over again.

My eyes adjust to the darkness and we both realize she's stabbing the couch over and over with a kitchen knife, a big kitchen knife

We skeedaddle but not before I call the social workers. After all she has six kids right? So I get phone calls from her for over a week threatening my life as she knows I'm the one who called the social workers. I record the messages of course and give them to the social workers but for some odd reason they can do nothing. See, she's a black woman with six kids, HUD housing and just needs her anti psychotic meds and I'm just over reacting( pretty much told me I was racist in so many words).

About three weeks later she was being evicted from the apartments because she held the manager at knife point because he called the cops on her as she was threatening the neighbors with the knife in front of her six kids.

The social workers found her a better home with three bedrooms for her kids and all charges dropped. I had asked why, and again I was over reacting; "the woman just needed her medications and a better home to raise her kids right.

Yes, still shaking my head but this happened, and this lame excuse for this Lanza episode is probably the truth. Sad thing is this probably happens more often but of course 26 children and elementary school teachers aren't murdered, just one at a time. I have no idea of stats, probably buried in reports somewhere. Best place to be in America is broke, on welfare with a dozen kids, a minority and a knife in your hand while not taking the meds so the demons can talk to them easier without that"fuzzy" TV interference.

The end

115 posted on 12/18/2012 4:37:08 PM PST by Karliner ( Jeremiah 29:11, Romans 8:28, Romans 8:38"...this is the end of the beginning."WC)
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To: servo1969

I’m thinking the mom had a friend at the school who was the counselor and may have been helping her (or giving advice) about Adam. Thus, the ‘altercation’. I think I read, somewhere, someone thought the counselor at that particular school may have been ‘treating’ him....but I could be wrong. So much misinformation.


155 posted on 12/18/2012 7:01:36 PM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Great vid by ShorelineMike! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOZjJk6nbD4&feature=plcp)
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