Posted on 12/17/2012 10:07:19 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
Why have a debt ceiling if all we do is increase it? Do away with the debt ceiling all together ... nobody pays any attention to it anyhow.
I don’t agree with that at all.
The Fail is strong with these two. We are so Effed
I think I saw/heard something today about Obama going up to $400,000. Sounds like negotiating has begun.
Agreeing or disagreeing with me is no big thing ... giving a reason means much toward a civil discussion.
It does get Headlines and the Media can't ignore it.
And they are a BIG player....unfortunately ,...as the 2012 election showed us.
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Isn’t anyone interested in stopping these people?
no?
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And how do you stop the spending....most of it is Medicare and such....
What will the headlines be....that is the problem....No One seems to have noticed the problems in Europe and especially in Greece.
Does the house get any say in this? or are they elected to just follow the whips...
It’s pretty hard to grasp and embrace the concept of tipping point, especially for conservatives, but the story here is simply that there are some problems that cannot be solved.
We cannot cut taxes and cut the deficit. That raises the deficit — because we are past the tipping point. We can’t grow the economy anymore, regardless of tax rates. Taxes aren’t decisive anymore.
We cannot cut spending and cut the deficit for the extrapolated reason. Government spending is such a big part of GDP now that cutting spending would cut GDP and that would cut tax revenue and presto, bigger deficit.
This is what it means to be past the tipping point. There is no solution.
But a step past all that for a moment — these chained CPI adjustments to SS. Let’s make DAMN SURE it applies to ALL government retirement pensions, too, including Congress and Presidents and Judges and any other bureaucrat.
Won't be an easy vote either.
The media will be printing nasty headlines,....every chance they get.
Signing off here.
You’ll never stop any spending with these guys in charge.
Guys a majority of Americans (the “people” I referenced) voted for.
And Greece and the rest of Europe could fall into a crack in the Earth tomorrow from the weight of their debt and it still wouldn’t change what we’re doing over here.
The only hope is to replace all 535 plus 2 plus 9.
So the only hope is no hope?
ALL debt ceiling atrocities are for ONE YEAR. These people think we are stupid because 53% of those of us that voted ARE THAT STUPID!
LLS
Not a single person in congress right now is demanding the elimination of even one department. It doesn’t even get discussed here much anymore because we all know it won’t happen. But I would think at least one tea party member would be jumping up and down, demanding the department of education be eliminated.
Anything bipartisan moves left. Shame on Boehner and anyone who votes for increasing taxes and spending in ANY way.
The “deal” is that Obama will get the praise for raising taxes on the rich, while Republicans get the blame for “cutting” Social Security.
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