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1 posted on 12/17/2012 7:23:30 PM PST by blam
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“No taxation without representation,” was a popular slogan of the time.

New time needs a new slogan: "No representation without taxation". There are too many riding free in the wagon with too few pulling it. Bye bye progressive income tax, hello flat tax.

2 posted on 12/17/2012 7:39:22 PM PST by shove_it (the 0bama regime are the people Huxley, Orwell and Rand warned us about)
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Sobering.


3 posted on 12/17/2012 7:40:45 PM PST by skeeter
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All I know is that the progressive tax is designed to keep us peasants from building up on the hill.


4 posted on 12/17/2012 7:43:47 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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Well that was depressing.


6 posted on 12/17/2012 8:10:29 PM PST by Ciexyz
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Another reason to raise tariffs and bring factories back to the US. Is it better to pay $1.00 more for a toaster made in the US, thereby employing low skill labor, or to pay less for the toaster but $1.50 more in taxes so the government can provide benefits for the low skill laborer who cannot find a job in the US?

Not only does the low skill assembly job benefit people who would otherwise be sitting at home collecting the dole, the payment to the US factory builds the US economy while paying a Chinese factory for the same product benefits the Chinese worker, the Chinese factory owner, and the Chinese economy.

What our government, and most economists don’t seem to understand is the outsourcing of production of everyday consumer products to other countries has destroyed the government’s ability to jump start the economy out of recession. Forty years ago, the government putting more money in the hands of consumers through tax reductions or direct payments would result in increased demand for consumer products. That demand would translate into more orders for the US factories producing the product. Higher orders, results in more production which in turn increases demand for labor.

Fast forward to 2008. The government increased spending by $1 trillion annually to put more money into the economy. To the degree consumers bought toasters, bicycles, iPads, computers, clothing, and furniture with that money, they benefited Chinese factories, not American factories. The American factories producing those goods no longer exist. In essence the government borrowed money it didn’t have to increase demand for consumer goods produced by Chinese factories.

Bring the consumer goods assembly factories and the low skill jobs back to the USA. It is a matter of national security.


7 posted on 12/17/2012 8:23:23 PM PST by Soul of the South
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Another reason to raise tariffs and bring factories back to the US. Is it better to pay $1.00 more for a toaster made in the US, thereby employing low skill labor, or to pay less for the toaster but $1.50 more in taxes so the government can provide benefits for the low skill laborer who cannot find a job in the US?

Not only does the low skill assembly job benefit people who would otherwise be sitting at home collecting the dole, the payment to the US factory builds the US economy while paying a Chinese factory for the same product benefits the Chinese worker, the Chinese factory owner, and the Chinese economy.

What our government, and most economists don’t seem to understand is the outsourcing of production of everyday consumer products to other countries has destroyed the government’s ability to jump start the economy out of recession. Forty years ago, the government putting more money in the hands of consumers through tax reductions or direct payments would result in increased demand for consumer products. That demand would translate into more orders for the US factories producing the product. Higher orders, results in more production which in turn increases demand for labor.

Fast forward to 2008. The government increased spending by $1 trillion annually to put more money into the economy. To the degree consumers bought toasters, bicycles, iPads, computers, clothing, and furniture with that money, they benefited Chinese factories, not American factories. The American factories producing those goods no longer exist. In essence the government borrowed money it didn’t have to increase demand for consumer goods produced by Chinese factories.

Bring the consumer goods assembly factories and the low skill jobs back to the USA. It is a matter of national security and economic survival.


8 posted on 12/17/2012 8:23:52 PM PST by Soul of the South
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Interesting overview.

But I take exception to this:

But if the economy itself is not growing, a company can only grow by taking market share away from another company.

Even if the economy isn't growing, technical innovation can create entire new markets and demand without stealing market share from anyone.

9 posted on 12/17/2012 8:25:25 PM PST by MV=PY (The Magic Question: Who's paying for it)
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Great!


10 posted on 12/17/2012 8:41:44 PM PST by An Old Man
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