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Jindalís op-ed to sell contraceptives over-the-counter 'very troubling'
http://lifesitenews.com ^ | December 14, 2012 | Ben Johnson

Posted on 12/15/2012 9:27:45 AM PST by NKP_Vet

Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal has proposed that oral contraceptives should be available to all women without a prescription or doctor’s examination in an op-ed that has drawn praise from Planned Parenthood and condemnation from some in the pro-life movement.

He called a new report from the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists (ACOG), calling for oral contraceptives to be sold over-the-counter, “a common-sense call for reform.”

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: contraception; culturewar; moralabsolutes; nodebate; rino; sexpositiveagenda; teensex
Another republican sell-out on the life issue. Maybe Jidal wants to be a Spankie Christie's running mate.
1 posted on 12/15/2012 9:27:51 AM PST by NKP_Vet
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To: NKP_Vet

Let the circular firing squad begin.


2 posted on 12/15/2012 9:34:14 AM PST by norton
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To: NKP_Vet
Contraceptives are a medical issue as well as a societal one.If physicians qualified to make such determinations decide that a particular one is “safe” to use without a prescription (as is the case with aspirin,among other drugs) then they can make that recommendation.But such an announcement would address the societal aspects.
3 posted on 12/15/2012 9:34:25 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Benghazi: What Did Baraq Know And When Did He Know It?)
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To: NKP_Vet
Sorry...would *not* address societal issues.
4 posted on 12/15/2012 9:35:38 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Benghazi: What Did Baraq Know And When Did He Know It?)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Making contraceptives available over the counter takes off the table the forced prescription coverage which is such a big component of the libs so-called War on Women position.


5 posted on 12/15/2012 9:45:14 AM PST by angry elephant (Endangered species in Seattle)
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To: NKP_Vet

I’ve always said he is a strong support guy and a hapless leader. This is more proof. I wonder who he thinks he is pandering to in Louisiana, which is the most lovingly pro-family, pro-child state I have ever seen.


6 posted on 12/15/2012 9:52:05 AM PST by Psalm 144 (Capitol to the districts: "May the odds be ever in your favor.")
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To: NKP_Vet

It’s almost as if he’s saying, “If women want to take a potentially dangerous and usually unnecessary drug, let’s make it as easy as possible for them. Their bodies - their choices.” There’s a certain rational appeal to that, if it’s rational to think, “Let’s hasten the complete societal collapse in any way we can.”


7 posted on 12/15/2012 9:59:21 AM PST by Tax-chick (I'm a nightmare, not a dream.)
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To: NKP_Vet

Jindal is doing a pile on Allowing the media to drive the issue ( I don’t care what the polling is ...it’s a pseudo issue driven by the demo-coms)and is going down the same Romney/GOPE path. He above every one else who’s state has been affected by Obama’s socialist energy policy should be screaming about gas prices and the reason which affects the pocket book portion of the pill using “demographic” he wants to reach.
And forget about the pill pushers. It’s pockebook issue Bobby !


8 posted on 12/15/2012 10:12:21 AM PST by mosesdapoet ("A voice crying in the wilderness make streight for the way of the Lord")
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To: Gay State Conservative

Contraceptives are a medical issue as well as a societal one.If physicians qualified to make such determinations decide that a particular one is “safe” to use without a prescription (as is the case with aspirin,among other drugs) then they can make that recommendation.
Doctors deemed every one of the prescription drugs “safe” to prescribe that are now withdrawn from the market and subject to endless class action lawsuits.
Oral contraceptives have been linked to stroke, heart attack and an increased risk of blood clots.
We should just put them in bowls and hand them out free. /s


9 posted on 12/15/2012 10:14:17 AM PST by bitterohiogunclinger (Proudly casting a heavy carbon footprint as I clean my guns ---)
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To: NKP_Vet
The medical profession is corrupt. Pediatricians believe that girls under 18 should carry a prescription for “emergency” contraceptives (abortion pills) in their pockets at all times so that they could immediately seek “discrete” treatment without an appointment or parental influence.
10 posted on 12/15/2012 10:22:29 AM PST by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: Psalm 144
"I wonder who he thinks he is pandering to"

Perhaps to those who are conservatives, those who want to limit the role of government in our lives. Of course a big govenment statist would not recognize that as a good thing.

11 posted on 12/15/2012 10:28:24 AM PST by PatHimself
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To: NKP_Vet
It's not a life issue. It's a self-ownership issue. Who determines what you take into your body? The government or you?

Why would an adult American need a note from a doctor to buy something? We're free people or we're not.

12 posted on 12/15/2012 10:50:35 AM PST by Jabba the Nutt (.Are they stupid, malicious or evil?)
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To: NKP_Vet

It seems to me that society, and the future of this country, will probably be best served if the sort of women who want to avoid creating offspring while having lots of risky sex are allowed to easily accomplish this by taking a potentially risky medicine unsupervised.

Don’tcha think?

Darwin Awards, self-selection, culling the herd, cleansing the gene pool, and all that.


13 posted on 12/15/2012 10:52:00 AM PST by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: PatHimself

Some people yearn for good old days of Franco’s Spain or DeVelera’s Ireland. Impose Catholic dogma, Protestants are all probably Free Masons anyway so they do not count.(sarc) In all seriousness, the use or non-use of oral contraceptives, like birth control pills, is not a pillar of Conservative bonafides. Catholics are against it, most Protestants are not. Abortion is that line, not contraception itself.


14 posted on 12/15/2012 11:21:13 AM PST by gusty
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To: NKP_Vet

That one thing will cost him dearly politically. While the party is taking one stance against Obama, Jindel is opposing them. Nest time he runs, that will be remembered by conservatives.


15 posted on 12/15/2012 12:00:08 PM PST by maxwellsmart_agent
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To: gusty

And some people just don’t like Catholics, the merits of the issue be damned. Denounce a Catholic and it makes ya feel better.

If you actually stopped and thought about this, you might notice mountains of evidence that separating procreation from sex has led to every single social pathology that plagues us.

Read Mary Eberstadt, Adam and Eve after the Pill.

Increase in cohabitation outside marriage, which leads to mored ivorce, which leads to more fatherlessness

homosexual actvism (if sex is not about procreation, then why is it wrong for two men to masturbate each other?

a pornographic, selfish mentality about sex (which leads to relationships eventually breaking down), esp. by men toward women

and the list goes on and on.

Oh, and, by the way, lots more abortions.

Because, you see, easy contraception means that the sheer amount of sex acts going on increases immensely. And much of the increase is happening outside of marriage, including “hooking up” casually.

But no, it’s just a Catholic lunacy to be concerned about the affect of a contraceptive attitude on human sexuality. /s


16 posted on 12/15/2012 12:37:59 PM PST by Houghton M.
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To: NKP_Vet; Psalm 144; Tax-chick
You all have this wrong. Going OTC removes the problem for the Catholic Church and similar organizes created by ObamaCare requiring them to violate their consciences and teachings and offer coverage.

It places both moral choices and their costs in the hands of individuals.

I've only seen studies that debunk The Pill is an abortifacient claims pushed by some pro life activists.

The Pill also has other medicinal uses like hormone regulation.

The nanny state has already decided you'll foot the bill whether you disagree with contraceptive coverage or not, so why not take that power away from the nanny state and leave it to individuals to take personal responsibility?

17 posted on 12/15/2012 1:33:46 PM PST by newzjunkey (bah)
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To: a fool in paradise
You need to do some homework outside the echo chamber of the advocacy groups.

"Emergency contraceptives" are NOT abortion pills.

You're confusing RU-486, incontrovertibly an abortifacient, with high dose of the usual contraceptive pills to prevent ovulation in patients who may need care after a rape.

Dependable studies show there is no lower rate of pregnancy after conception has occurred; there was no difference at all with or without Emergency contraception.

Implantation is not prevented so there's no abortifacient effect; that was a theory that lacks evidence of representing reality yet is still pushed by some pro life types eager to oversell their position.

19 posted on 12/15/2012 1:50:37 PM PST by newzjunkey (bah)
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To: bitterohiogunclinger

Exactly. My personal doctor WILL NOT prescribe birth control for me because I’m a smoker. Now, I can find another doctor who deosn’t care about my risk of stroke, but the point is that BC pills are not harmless candy.


20 posted on 12/15/2012 3:03:24 PM PST by Amberdawn
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To: NKP_Vet

Jindal for president... Woo, Wooo.


21 posted on 12/15/2012 4:16:52 PM PST by itsahoot (Any enemy, that is allowed to have a King's X line, is undefeatable. (USS Taluga AO-62))
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To: norton

Next thing you know women will be running around buying up cases and cases of Today Sponges...


22 posted on 12/15/2012 4:21:39 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Houghton M.
separating procreation from sex has led to every single social pathology that plagues us.

Gee, I never thought of my marriage which separated procreation from sex from the get-go as contributing to "every single social pathology that plagues us." Interesting.

You see, I started out the marriage with a vasectomy, which certainly totally separated sex from procreation. And, you know, I am wondering what social pathology I contributed to. Please explain...it's beyond my understanding.

23 posted on 12/15/2012 7:59:17 PM PST by OldPossum
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To: OldPossum
...it's beyond my understanding.

That appears to be exactly right.

24 posted on 12/16/2012 1:28:01 AM PST by itsahoot (Any enemy, that is allowed to have a King's X line, is undefeatable. (USS Taluga AO-62))
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To: itsahoot

“it’s beyond my understanding” was a kind expression to denote that Houghton’s broad and preposterous generality makes no damn sense at all. I knew what he was getting at and I don’t like it.


25 posted on 12/16/2012 8:26:16 AM PST by OldPossum
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To: Jabba the Nutt

I agree. Although I don’t really have a problem with them being treated like anti-biotics.


26 posted on 12/16/2012 8:34:24 AM PST by GunRunner (***Not associated with any criminal actions by the ATF***)
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To: Houghton M.

All of that might be true with regard to societal breakdown, but do you really think that it is the state’s job to fix and regulate people’s lives to correct it? If so, how does that make you a conservative, and how are you different from Michelle Obama telling us what to eat?


27 posted on 12/16/2012 8:41:06 AM PST by GunRunner (***Not associated with any criminal actions by the ATF***)
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To: NKP_Vet

This will make it very difficult for Jindal to get any traction in the 2016 GOP primary. Unless, of course he is trying to be the establishment choice in case neither Jeb nor fatboy run.


28 posted on 12/16/2012 8:26:46 PM PST by rhinohunter
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To: GunRunner

Another possibility is to allowed the manufacturers to set the rules of their sale. They could stipulate that the sale is contiguent upon prescription by a doctor. You know, the freedom of owners to control their property. Works for me.


29 posted on 12/17/2012 6:43:40 AM PST by Jabba the Nutt (.Are they stupid, malicious or evil?)
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To: NKP_Vet

Weird how many alleged conservatives on FR become statists when it suits them.


30 posted on 12/17/2012 7:06:51 AM PST by Sloth (Rather than a lesser Evil, I voted for Goode.)
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To: Sloth

Maybe you should only be able to buy guns with a doctor’s permission, too, huh?


31 posted on 12/17/2012 7:07:45 AM PST by Sloth (Rather than a lesser Evil, I voted for Goode.)
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To: Psalm 144

I’m more than disappointed in him. I’m disgusted.


32 posted on 12/17/2012 7:10:48 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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