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Dem. lawmaker: To get gun control, Obama must ‘exploit’ shooting
The Washington Times ^ | 14 December, 2012 | Ben Wolfgang

Posted on 12/15/2012 6:11:18 AM PST by marktwain

A veteran Democratic lawmaker believes the nation will go along with stronger gun control laws if President Obama “exploits” the Newtown, Conn., tragedy and nudges Congress to action.

Rep. Jerrold Nadler, who represents portions of New York City, said he was encouraged by Mr. Obama’s statement on Friday afternoon that the mass shooting, which claimed the lives of 20 young children, requires “meaningful action” by Congress, but hopes those words turn into concrete legislation.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: ban; banglist; ct; guncontrol; massacre; newtown; ny; sandyhook; secondamendment
We do not need the old failed policies of fascist gun "gun control". We need armed responsible adults capable of protecting the children, instead of keeping them in the a defenseless killing zone for their attackers.
1 posted on 12/15/2012 6:11:22 AM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Gun control is the cause of—not the solution to—these violent crimes. In every instance, the shooter chose an easily available venue where there was an existing publicized gun ban and concealed carry by patrons or employees was prohibited. How stupid, self-deluded, and suicidal are the American people and those they elect to public office?


2 posted on 12/15/2012 6:16:07 AM PST by 4Runner
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To: marktwain

Just like our allies in Israel.


3 posted on 12/15/2012 6:19:39 AM PST by exnavy (Got ammo, Godspeed!)
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To: marktwain

Three words - Fast and Furious.


4 posted on 12/15/2012 6:19:42 AM PST by bergmeid (FUBO)
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To: marktwain
Exploiting dead children for political gain. How very democrat of them.
5 posted on 12/15/2012 6:19:58 AM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: marktwain

Legislation is so old fashioned and messy. Who needs it? Certainly not Obama. He will just issue an Executive Order banning guns. Boehner will do nothing—he might even cry. And if it makes it to the Supreme Court, Justice Roberts will cave as Obama has found some lever to bend him to his will.

Its not that I don’t feel for the Victims, I do. Its that I am not about to give up my freedoms in response to every tragedy. Freedom is not free. Anytime you give people freedom, the nutcases will occasionally take advantage of it to cause mayhem. But giving up your freedom for “safety” has far worse consequences. How many people get killed each year in auto accidents? Funny, I don’t hear anyone proposing to ban cars.


6 posted on 12/15/2012 6:20:54 AM PST by rbg81
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To: 4Runner

There are a 1,000 pages of federal, state, and local laws that exist already over ‘gun control’. Adding another page, doesn’t really say much or do much.

Your mass shooters can be divided into two groups...either mentally unstable or significant drug users. The only connection between the two groups? All male. If you go back over twenty years....it’s almost impossible to find a female in the mass shooter category.

Fixing this? About every six months....I notice a major bridge failure that occurs. It’s been going on for decades. I haven’t noticed any effort to have ‘bridge failure control’ laws put into effect. That kind of says something.


7 posted on 12/15/2012 6:21:53 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: 4Runner

I will give up my guns when these people can 100% guarantee that they already have all the guns of the bad guys.


8 posted on 12/15/2012 6:22:08 AM PST by phormer phrog phlyer
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To: marktwain

A deranged man in China on Friday I think it was, used a knife to attack small children in a classroom.

Should we ban kitchen knives?

We already know what boxcutters can do.

I hate politicians. All of them.


9 posted on 12/15/2012 6:22:44 AM PST by SusaninOhio
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To: marktwain

Aren’t we going to need guns for that civil war Richard Trumka is going to start over Michigan’s Right-to-Work law?


10 posted on 12/15/2012 6:24:21 AM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: pepsionice

I notice other than Virgina Tech which doesn’t allow guns on campus that all these shootings do not occur in the South where people know that gun use is very high and these people know they may get shot before killing anyone


11 posted on 12/15/2012 6:26:31 AM PST by scooby321 (AMS)
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To: pepsionice

I notice other than Virgina Tech which doesn’t allow guns on campus that all these shootings do not occur in the South where people know that gun use is very high and these people know they may get shot before killing anyone


12 posted on 12/15/2012 6:26:46 AM PST by scooby321 (AMS)
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To: marktwain
Could it be that "they" need these killings.. we never had problems like these when guns -- including surplus WWII weapons were sold in magazine ads and IIRC comic book ads. I recall that DoD virtually gave away surplus ammo.

Was this and other massacres "arranged" in order to advance an agenda.

Maybe yes in the context that certain pharmaceuticals have effects on the mind that, there is strong evidence, cause these horrors.

Yet, and here's the "arranged" aspect, there appears to be a disregard and even a coverup of the connection -- it could be argued that some in the ruling class New Normal want the shootings to happen

and among them there was talk that it may be necessary to kill as many as 60 million Americans to get their desired transformation of America. They need to disarm those 60 million Americans.

13 posted on 12/15/2012 6:27:16 AM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: 4Runner

Sounds like it’s time to once again remind our own particular reps that we will not accept ANY tampering with our rights “regardless of politics”. (that’s what hussein said yesterday) The constitutional violaters that are calling for more mostly live in that rarified world above the “little people”, or, dunces as they think of us. With armed protection and little in common with their constituents they apparently have no concern for the constitution. I think some sort of EO or presidential directive will be tried as a place holder. Consider the other EO’s and PD’s that have been issued that are most likely un-constitutional and nobody seems to give a hoot. Just what we need more, gun-free zones where the bad guys will have ducks in a gallery. Possibly a voluntary “trusted teacher” program? Couple of weeks at FrontSight and then strap on and get back in the classroom. Wonder how the teachers unions would react to that. Probably too much liability involved.

Helping keep mankind warm for 65 years.


14 posted on 12/15/2012 6:32:39 AM PST by rktman
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To: marktwain

If our side wants to be relevant, they need to start taking sound bites like this and making sure a majority of Americans see them. We let the left act like complete imbeciles and get away with it. Hang it around them, and with purpose.


15 posted on 12/15/2012 6:49:25 AM PST by ilgipper (Obama supporters are comprised of the uninformed & the ill-informed)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael
and among them there was talk that it may be necessary to kill as many as 60 million Americans to get their desired transformation of America. They need to disarm those 60 million Americans.

Just about the number that votes R every election, huh?

16 posted on 12/15/2012 6:52:20 AM PST by Big Giant Head
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To: pepsionice

Do you remember Laurie Dan? That happened in the late 80s, but that’s the only case of a female shooter that I can think of. She was mentally disturbed.


17 posted on 12/15/2012 6:56:24 AM PST by virgil
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To: marktwain

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/12/14/who-really-killed-the-connecticut-children/


18 posted on 12/15/2012 6:56:48 AM PST by Wisconsinlady ("Never give the devil a ride; he will want to take over the driving.")
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To: marktwain

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/12/14/who-really-killed-the-connecticut-children/


19 posted on 12/15/2012 6:56:48 AM PST by Wisconsinlady ("Never give the devil a ride; he will want to take over the driving.")
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To: marktwain

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/12/14/who-really-killed-the-connecticut-children/


20 posted on 12/15/2012 6:56:53 AM PST by Wisconsinlady ("Never give the devil a ride; he will want to take over the driving.")
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To: marktwain
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21 posted on 12/15/2012 6:57:31 AM PST by baddog 219
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To: marktwain

Parading the corpses like democrats and muslims always do.

Using their logic, since most of these shootings are done by democrats and/or sons of obama then it follows that if we exploit this and the other shootings we can conclude that the democrat party should be outlawed because they murder people.

FUBO & FAD


22 posted on 12/15/2012 7:05:57 AM PST by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: bergmeid
Three words - Fast and Furious.

Two words///Molon Labe!

23 posted on 12/15/2012 7:10:24 AM PST by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: marktwain
We do not need the old failed policies of fascist gun "gun control". We need armed responsible adults capable of protecting the children, instead of keeping them in the a defenseless killing zone for their attackers.

Laws aren't about saving lives. Laws are about making people feel good. Arming teachers won't make people feel good. Banning assault rifles, high-cap magazines and closing gun shows will.

And when I say "people" I'm not talking about you or I posting here on Free Republic. I'm talking about all those other folks who actually won the election. The NRA went all out against Obama and lost. Nobody is afraid of the "Angry White Male" anymore. As last November clearly demonstrated, they can win without us. Gun control is coming. You can count on it. Better buy 'em now.

24 posted on 12/15/2012 7:17:02 AM PST by Drew68
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25 posted on 12/15/2012 7:27:47 AM PST by MtnMan101
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To: phormer phrog phlyer

I still wouldn’t and won’t give up my guns.


26 posted on 12/15/2012 7:30:08 AM PST by maddog55 (America Rising.... Civil War II)
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To: MtnMan101

BRAVO!


27 posted on 12/15/2012 7:38:40 AM PST by baddog 219
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To: marktwain
Rahm Emanuel Says Never Let A Good Crisis Go To Waste.

(13 sec video)
28 posted on 12/15/2012 7:54:13 AM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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29 posted on 12/15/2012 8:59:32 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: hinckley buzzard

They did the same thing when Oswald did his gig on JFK.One has to wonder how far the left will go or what they will set up to gain more power.


30 posted on 12/15/2012 9:15:57 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: marktwain

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31 posted on 12/15/2012 10:34:46 AM PST by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: rbg81
But giving up your freedom for “safety” has far worse consequences.

Ben Franklin (I think) said that he who gives up freedom for safety deserves neither.

32 posted on 12/15/2012 10:38:26 AM PST by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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