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CAIR-Michigan Goes After the U.S. Constitution
radicalislam.org ^ | 13DEC12 | Clare M. Lopez

Posted on 12/13/2012 2:30:11 PM PST by bayouranger

There they go again. The Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) has just put out an Action Alert that takes direct aim at the Constitution of the United States.

At issue is the Michigan state legislature’s House Bill No. 4769, which looks likely to pass in coming days. Quite simply, that bill states that no foreign law may take precedence over American law or Michigan state law in a Michigan court room.

The key provision of the bill is Section 2, which says:

“A court, arbitrator, administrative agency, or other adjudicative, mediation, or enforcement authority shall not enforce a foreign law if doing so would violate a right guaranteed by the constitution of this state or of the United States.”

That’s it. Seems pretty straightforward and entirely in keeping with Article VI of the U.S. Constitution, which states:

“This Constitution and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby…”

So why would CAIR call on its members to oppose legislation that protects all American citizens, upholds the U.S. Constitution and in no way interferes with the right of any individual to freely exercise his or her religion as guaranteed by the First Amendment?

CAIR (a Muslim Brotherhood front group) points to the answer in its own words. Its Action Alert decries “discrimination on followers of a minority faith” and terms the legislation “anti-Islam,” even though there is no mention of Islam or any other faith in the bill.

There’s also no mention of any specific foreign law, just the general proviso that if ever there is a conflict between any foreign law – be it French law, Islamic law, Japanese law, Zambian law or any other – and U.S. and/or Michigan state law, it is the American law and the Michigan law that will prevail.

So, then, in what way is such legislation “anti-Islam”?

It would seem that CAIR is saying that Islam is not just a religion, but actually a legal system (hint: it’s called “sharia.”) This is quite forthcoming of them, because in fact, of course, Islam is not merely about diet/fasting, devotion, prayer, worship, pilgrimage, and proselytizing (Da’wa), which are completely 100% protected by the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. No, as CAIR is rightly pointing out, Islam is also a “complete way of life,” encompassing a legal, military, political, and social system. The name of that “complete way of life” is sharia (Islamic law), which governs every aspect of a Muslim’s life and actually forbids a separation between faith and governance. It is unlawful under sharia for a devout, practicing Muslim to “render unto Caesar what is Caesar’s and unto God what is God’s.”

The CAIR Action Alert against Michigan’s pending legislation perhaps unintentionally illustrates this in a most instructive way. The reason the Muslim Brotherhood and all other sharia-adherent Muslims cannot accept that sharia provisions that conflict with U.S. law be superseded by Constitutional law in American courts is precisely the notion that Islamic law must dominate all other laws on earth in every respect.

Of course, this sort of legal supremacism is not only in direct contravention of Article VI of the U.S. Constitution; if acted upon, it arguably also could be grounds for a charge of sedition, conspiracy to commit sedition, or misprision of sedition.

Aside from the obvious need to ensure that American law prevails in American courts, the specific nature of Islamic law is particularly problematic. Of course, CAIR does not mention this in its Action Alert, but although sharia indeed contains legal prescriptions about devotion and worship as well as many other aspects of life, there are also multiple elements of sharia that are utterly antithetical to the U.S. Constitution and Declaration of Independence.

Most important of all is that the Islam of sharia mandates legal inequality between Muslims and non-Muslims, and between men and women. Sharia also imposes barbaric, mutilating punishments for theft, flogging for “fornication” and the death penalty for adultery, apostasy, homosexuality and, in some cases, slander/blasphemy. For those who do not accept the rule of Islam, sharia is a supremacist, violently expansionist doctrine that requires every Muslim to participate in jihad, which is “warfare to spread the religion.”

Clearly, then, CAIR, which was named by the Department of Justice an unindicted co-conspirator in the 2008 Holy Land Foundation HAMAS terror funding trial, is presenting a misleading impression of Michigan’s “Restriction of Application of Foreign Laws Act” and also concealing its real reasons for opposing it.

This kind of deliberate dissimulation is called taqiyya and is often used by adherents of sharia to deceive the non-Muslim (infidel or kafir). Quite helpful for everyone, however, is the unintended way that CAIR provides a revealing look inside the operations of the Muslim Brotherhood in America as it seeks to protect the insinuation of sharia provisions into the U.S. legal system.

As a careful reading of Michigan’s House Bill No. 4769 will confirm, this legislation actually provides assurance that American Muslim families are afforded the same constitutional protections and liberties as other Americans. Unfortunately, as a June 2011 Center for Security Policy study demonstrated, Islamic law (sharia) is present already in the U.S. legal system in a significant way.

The data presented in the “Shariah Law and American State Courts: An Assessment of State Appellate Court Cases” study documented a total of 50 cases from 23 different states involving a “conflict of law” between sharia and American state law. Sharia-based legal conventions or decisions from 16 foreign countries had been brought to bear upon these 50 cases.

Muslim Americans, many of whom came to the U.S. to escape the oppressive rule of sharia in their home nations, are no less deserving of the protections of American law than other Americans born into the privilege of living in a free country where faith and state are kept separated by law.

Liberty-and-equality-protecting legislation like Michigan’s House Bill No. 4769 already has been passed in Arizona, Kansas, Louisiana and Tennessee and has been introduced in more than 20 more states, including Michigan. Emails, letters and phone calls from constituents in these states to state legislators can help to ensure passage for such measures. Residents of Michigan can contact their state representatives here.

Ironically, CAIR spokesman Ibrahim Hooper himself supports the intent behind this legislation when it serves his purposes. When a Muslim woman working in Washington, D.C.'s Dulles International Airport for Aerotek, a local staffing agency for Air France, was told she could not wear her hijab to work because it was against Air France's uniform policy, Hooper was quoted as saying:

“Our position is that no company doing business in America has the obligation to enforce discriminatory foreign policies on American employees,” he said. “A discriminatory dress code implemented in France does not supersede American laws protecting the religious rights of American citizens.”

Mr. Hooper, we couldn’t agree more. Perhaps you could mention this to the folks in Michigan.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; Government; US: Michigan; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 2012; alac; cair; cairconstitution; cairsharia; constitution; corruption; crushislam; filthykoranimals; infiltration; islam; islamofascism; lawfare; michigan; qitalislam; sharia; shariah; sharialaw; waronterror
Contact points here: http://www.house.mi.gov/mhrpublic/

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1 posted on 12/13/2012 2:30:22 PM PST by bayouranger
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To: Springman; cyclotic; netmilsmom; RatsDawg; PGalt; FreedomHammer; queenkathy; madison10; ...
Lets hope Rick Snyder is fully finished trying to deal with deal breakers.

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Weekly/biweekly Michigan legislative activism thread December 7, 2012
2 posted on 12/13/2012 2:33:41 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: bayouranger

If we have elements of Sharia Law already going on in Michigan. Why cannot we just add that all muslims must move out of Michigan? Dearborn is the capitol home of the Muslim population in Michigan. If the Muslims insist on Sharia. Than I must insist that the Amish laws be installed immediately, Also all the Laws of Judaism and the 640 laws of the Pharisees be installed too. Islam is a false religion rooted in Satanism.


3 posted on 12/13/2012 2:42:10 PM PST by hondact200 (Candor dat viribos alas (sincerity gives wings to strength) and Nil desperandum (never despair))
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To: bayouranger

Guess they’ve never played cowboys and muslims yet ....


4 posted on 12/13/2012 2:44:08 PM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: hondact200
Islam is a false religion rooted in Satanism.

If you look at the Hebrew in Genesis 16 you will note that the angel says "I will multiply thy seed exceedingly, that it shall not be numbered for multitude." Hagar worships the angel and calls him the name of the Lord, yud-hay-vav-hay. Effectively, she names the messenger as G_d Himself and the angel does not correct her as the angel of Revelation 22:8-9 did with John. There is only one angel who would fail to do that: Lucifer himself.

5 posted on 12/13/2012 3:03:10 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The Slave Party: advancing indenture since 1787.)
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To: bayouranger
Why in hell is this "group" still allowed any voice in the USA, let alone still IN the USA?

FMCDH(BITS)

6 posted on 12/13/2012 3:21:58 PM PST by nothingnew (I fear for my Republic due to marxist influence in our government. Open eyes/see)
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To: bayouranger

Who gives a damn what CAIR does or thinks. Communists, the whole damn organization.


7 posted on 12/13/2012 3:50:28 PM PST by Logical me
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To: bayouranger; All
Based on his experience as VP and president of the Senate, Constitution expert Thomas Jefferson had officially written in Senate Parliamentary Manual that Congress cannot use the Senate's power to negotiate treaties as a back door to force USA citizens to comply with foreign laws based on powers which the states have never delegated to Congress via the Constitution.
"In giving to the President and Senate a power to make treaties, the Constitution meant only to authorize them to carry into effect, by way of treaty, any powers they might constitutionally exercise." --Thomas Jefferson: The Anas, 1793.

"Surely the President and Senate cannot do by treaty what the whole government is interdicted from doing in any way." --Thomas Jefferson: Parliamentary Manual, 1812.

More specifically, if the Senate needs a specific power in order to negotiate a treaty which the states have never delegated to Congress via the Constitution, Article V requires the Senate to work with HoR to propose an appropriate amendment to the Constitution to the states. And if the states choose to ratify the proposed amendment, then Congress will have the specific power that it needs to negotiote the treaty.

Thats the way it's supposed to work anyway.

Sadly, Congress managed to snow the Supreme Court to use this back door when the Court decided Missouri v. Holland.

Missouri v. Holland

Also, despite PC interpretations of the Supremacy Clause, Clause 2 of Article VI, note that this clause only works when the states have delegated to Congress, via the Constitution, the specific power to address a given issue.

Otherwise, the Founding States made the 10th Amendment to clarify that the Constitution's silence on any issue, healthcare, retirement, public schools, the environment, etc., is to be interpreted as meaning that the states have automatically reserved such powers uniquely to themselves.

Again, that's the way that it's supposed to work.

8 posted on 12/13/2012 5:36:55 PM PST by Amendment10
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To: Logical me

We’d better give a damn about what CAIR does or thinks. They are an Islamic spearpoint operating in the heart of America. In other words, they are the enemy of our way of life so we’d bettern know what they think and are doing so that we can better fight and defeat their “Islamic subversion” efforts.

Interestingly, many of the visibile voices of CAIR on the national level are white Americans who have converted to Islam, which makes them even more fanatical and dedicated to the promotion, advancement, and final victory of Islamic culture, religion, jihadism, and mindset in America.

They are the most direct threat to our Judaeo-Christian ethic, culture,way of life and political foundations of this country.

They are relentless, extremely well funded, staffed, and supported from within and without. In other words, they are dedicated subversives who try to paint themselves as only looking out for discrimination against Moslems in the US (but their definition is all encompassing so that anything you say or do to criticize, stop, or even comment on the Islamic religion/culture is considered a direct attack upon them and thus subject to their counterattacks).

This is war, only too many of our people either don’t recognize it, want to appease the Islamists, or are to stupid to understand that our whole way of life is under attack from them, aided and abetted, knowingly, by the Liberals and Leftists/Communists/Marxists/Obamists.

That is why we must give “a damn what CAIR does or thinks.


9 posted on 12/13/2012 5:41:10 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: bayouranger

anti-Islam = pro-Freedom


10 posted on 12/13/2012 5:41:10 PM PST by matt04
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To: hondact200

ping


11 posted on 12/13/2012 5:43:59 PM PST by Taggart_D
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To: Carry_Okie
worships the angel and calls him the name of the Lord, yud-hay-vav-hay

13 She gave this name to the Lord who spoke to her: “You are the God who sees me,” for she said, “I have now seen[c] the One who sees me.” 14 That is why the well was called Beer Lahai Roi[d]; it is still there, between Kadesh and Bered.

Interesting, could you explain? Where did you find the origin of the name of God she uses? Above is the NIV version of the Genesis 16 verses you spoke of.

12 posted on 12/13/2012 5:58:26 PM PST by Taggart_D
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

You are absolutely right! Do we sit back and become like Europe or do we stop it now???


13 posted on 12/13/2012 6:55:30 PM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: Taggart_D
Where did you find the origin of the name of God she uses?

יהוה is the usual Hebrew for the name of the Lord (what some pronounce as "Jehovah," although the Jewish people hold that that correct pronunciation is unknown and is therefore best left unsaid). The verse I cited employs that form, one of the most ubiquitous words on any Hebrew Torah scroll. Scripture4all.org has a program, the Interlinear Scriptural Analyzer that I use frequently (a free download) for the Concordant Literal Hebrew English Sublinear translation, along with the blueletterbible.org lexicon reference by Strong's number for each root.

Having written a book about the amazing attributes of a single particular Biblical translation error, I have zero confidence in the NIV. 1 Samuel 15:24 and all that.

14 posted on 12/13/2012 8:56:04 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The Slave Party: advancing indenture since 1787.)
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To: bayouranger

If people really want to live under Sharia law, they should pack up and MOVE to countries that are under their law of choice. To come to America and think they can uproot our very Constitution is just as crazy as an American moving to Pakistan and expecting to have the same freedoms he enjoyed in America. Would Pakistan change its constitution for American Christians? Don’t think so!


15 posted on 12/13/2012 10:07:25 PM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: nothingnew
Why in hell is this "group" still allowed any voice in the USA, let alone still IN the USA?

Friends of Barack.

16 posted on 12/13/2012 10:09:52 PM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: nothingnew
Why in hell is this "group" still allowed any voice in the USA, let alone still IN the USA?

FOB - Friends of Barack

17 posted on 12/13/2012 10:56:13 PM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: Carry_Okie

Is this the same angel that inspired mohammad with revelations?


18 posted on 12/14/2012 5:31:24 AM PST by existentially_kuffer
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To: bayouranger

Figures! Muslims are not bound by man-made laws but allah’s. The koranic answer lies in surah 5, ayat 51. For muslims only islam trumps the Constitution.


19 posted on 12/14/2012 5:31:34 AM PST by existentially_kuffer
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To: cripplecreek

Essentially, muslims are commanded not to be ruled by non-believers! Hense the preceived religious persecution and not being being able to practice their religion in freedom. Sadly american is blinded by islam’s intolerance & its hatred for non-believer. Are we to tolerate the intolerant?


20 posted on 12/14/2012 5:32:32 AM PST by SIRTRIS
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To: existentially_kuffer; GladesGuru
Is this the same angel that inspired mohammad with revelations?

One would think. Yet one cannot know. If one totally dispenses with a Judeo-Christian perspective in the study of these verses, one would note that Hagar's encounter is the first time humankind NAMES G_d. Now this is far more critical matter than one might realize until one studies Genesis 1 in Hebrew. Naming is a very powerful function. G_d doesn't name the animals; he left that to Adam. He doesn't name man until he is about to destroy him in Genesis 6. Naming is an act of discernment, in which one identifies the key attribute of a person's identity and they get to live that out for the rest of their lives. Those impenetrable genealogies are far more interesting than one might suspect (I think they form mnemonics for the rest of the story).

If Hagar actually "names" G_d, then we're in for far more of a challenge as regards Islam than we realize. Effectively, it would mean that G_d created for us an enemy He knew we could not defeat without Him. Note that the first time He offers his name to humankind is to Moshe, and it is obviously the same as Hagar gave Him.

If you go back to the Hagar story and play with the Hebrew roots in Gen. 16:12 , again dispassionately, you will note that in the interlinear it says, "hand of him - in all - and hand of - all - in him - and on - faces of - all of - brothers of him - he shall tabernacle (to dwell in a family tent)." Note that "hand" is yada, the same root for conceiving in procreation. One could read that this means Ishmael will be found in among tribe worldwide, and his FEATURES (what faces actually means) will be found on the face of every man, possibly because of rape. He is after all, like the wild ass. African wild asses are unlike many herd animals in that they often stray from the herd. There was a progenitor in character in the genealogy of Cain (Irad), whose name either refers to a wild ass or means "hides from the light," possibly related to when Adam hid from G_d, but one also notes that African asses seek the shade from the noon day sun.

Deep, isn't it? It helps in understanding all of this to apply the perspective of the nomadic herdsmen who wrote the Torah. Remember, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, and David were all men of the land.

Now, as to the prophecy of Ishmael, look at the Islamic slave trade in women. Look at their propensity to infest every nation. G_d's prophecy in His promise to Hagar is coming true before our eyes. Yet we don't see it because we study what we think about the Word more than the words themselves. I think we've missed a lot, as you'll find out soon enough when I finally post my translation and interpretation of Genesis 1-8. Don't hold your breath. Cain & Abel took two years to untangle.

21 posted on 12/14/2012 8:43:08 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The Slave Party: advancing indenture since 1787.)
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To: Carry_Okie

Thanks for the scripture4all.org reference. Interesting site. I still don’t see how you can conclude that Hagar was not calling on the name of the LORD. Though I believe Islam’s root is Satan and many instances in Islam’s history that document many those who thought he was demon possessed.

http://www.answering-islam.org/Silas/demons.htm


22 posted on 12/14/2012 8:45:35 AM PST by Taggart_D
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To: Taggart_D
See the post immediately above.

I still don’t see how you can conclude that Hagar was not calling on the name of the LORD.

You'd need a really deep study on the meaning of "naming" in Genesis 1-6 to get what I am driving at.

23 posted on 12/14/2012 8:47:59 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The Slave Party: advancing indenture since 1787.)
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To: Carry_Okie

Or, there is the alternative explanation that the “Angel of the Lord” in the OT was just a form that Christ appeared in before his earthly incarnation, hence there was no need for correction.


24 posted on 12/14/2012 11:54:31 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: Taggart_D

“Where did you find the origin of the name of God she uses?”

First, put down the NIV and grab the good old KJV. Then get out your Strong’s Concordance, or if you don’t have one, go to one of the online versions. Then, you can cross-reference any word in the KJV to find out what Hebrew or Greek word it was translated from, along with the alternative translations, root words, other verses the word occurs in, etc.


25 posted on 12/14/2012 12:07:56 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman
Or, there is the alternative explanation that the “Angel of the Lord” in the OT was just a form that Christ appeared in before his earthly incarnation, hence there was no need for correction.

That's a bit of a stretch for my taste. Even Christ referred to Adonai as "the Father." There is speculation also that Christ appeared to Avram as one of the three visitors. It's an interesting idea, but I prefer to leave that kind of thing alone. Christ was born human. His soul preexisted his form, but that doesn't mean His persona did.

26 posted on 12/14/2012 1:14:44 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The Slave Party: advancing indenture since 1787.)
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To: boatbums
Friends of Barack.

Pretty chummy with the Bush's as well, not to mention Clinton or the peanut farmer.

I think Oklahoma recently passed a bill that prohibited the use of Sharia in any state court and the Courts struck it down.

27 posted on 12/14/2012 1:38:52 PM PST by itsahoot (Any enemy, that is allowed to have a King's X line, is undefeatable. (USS Taluga AO-62))
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To: bayouranger

Figures! Muslims are not bound by man-made laws but allah’s. The koranic answer lies in surah 5, ayat 51. For muslims only islam trumps the Constitution.


28 posted on 12/14/2012 6:57:53 PM PST by existentially_kuffer
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks cripplecreek. Kickin’ ass, takin’ names.


29 posted on 12/15/2012 3:46:25 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: bayouranger

Placemark.

If you decide to make a “Truth of Islam” placemark, please add me.


30 posted on 12/16/2012 3:19:30 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Carry_Okie

“Christ was born human. His soul preexisted his form, but that doesn’t mean His persona did.”

I’m not sure how one could exist without the other. You can’t have a persona without a soul, and if you have a soul, I’m pretty sure you have a persona.


31 posted on 12/17/2012 6:34:28 AM PST by Boogieman
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