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Posted on 12/11/2012 10:10:21 PM PST by george76
Shame on the Interior Department for trying to drum a family-owned enterprise out of business.
After a seaside area has been designated as wilderness, when is it considered pristine enough by Washington's standards? Is it after airplanes have been banned from flying over it? After electricity pylons and telephone cables have been removed, cars and bikers prohibited, the roads torn up? When hikers are forbidden access to trails, and kayakers, sailors and snorkelers banished from the water? When eucalyptus trees and other foreign species are eradicated? Or only after Miwok Indians' arrowheads have been excavated and placed in a museum?
Apparently it is none of the above, at least according to Secretary of the Interior Ken Salazar. Instead, he seems to think that turning a tiny portion of the lovely coastline of California's Marin County (part of the National Seashore) into the first marine wilderness in the continental United States also requires destroying a family-run oyster operation that has conducted business in the same spot for eight decades
Unable to use its doctored studies to close the farm, the Park Service changed tack and resorted to even more dubious arguments
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without getting a time out
Ideology trumps absolutely everything else to these libtards.
Freedom is not a word libs like. Only power and control
Shades of the insidious Agenda 21 bullcra*
The video on the UN pushed evil agenda, is quite the eye opener. Gains recognition with GWB, Clinton and of course
barry who uses an EO to make it extra special.
They can do whatever they want within the framework of this ‘agenda’ - crazy
I have no sympathy for them. They were operating a business that was on property leased from the government.
Barring any clauses in the lease regarding rights of renewal, the government has every legal and moral right.
.... snip .... “one day before his company’s 40-year lease was set to expire that he had three months to clear out. On Tuesday, he announced he’s suing. .... snip ....
Where does the U.S. government get any moral or legal right to own land?
“Barring any clauses in the lease regarding rights of renewal, the government has every legal and moral right.”
Are you serious? Since when is oyster farming immoral? And since when is it considered a good idea for governments to “own” property?
It seems to me that our country “belongs” to those who end up paying for it, through all the various forms of taxation that we endure.
And it also seems to me that we have some right to enjoy and in some cases, even exploit it as long as we demonstrate a reasonable amount of stewardship.
Our various levels of government have no “moral” right to withhold huge sections of real estate from the citizenry, no matter what justification may be currently in vogue.
“without getting a time out”
Your generation with your time out instead of whipping the curtain climbing rug rodents when they missbehave has ruined a couple of generations!!!!
I may have been misunderstood. I mean moral right in that you really can't accuse the government of doing something wrong for not renewing a lease. Not accusing Oyster farmers of being morally wrong for choosing that means of making a living.
The Oyster farm leased the land, exploited it (not in a pejorative sense) for 80 some odd years and now the government doesn't want to renew the lease?
I suppose after the paragraph that say's it can't.
“They can do whatever they want within the framework of this agenda - crazy”
It’s a whole lot more than most would think....http://www.democratsagainstunagenda21.com/
First, the lease doesn’t say that it isn’t renewable. Second, the congressmen who helped form the Point Reyes National Seashore have firmly stated that their intention was to ensure the continued operation of the small farms that were occupying the land.
Yet the Interior Department has ignored the statements of former California Reps. Pete McCloskey and John Burton (a former California Democratic Party chairman).
The Park Service ignored another inconvenient fact: It doesn’t control fishing rights in the disputed area. Those are controlled by the State of California
That's likely true and I wouldn't expect to find a clause forbidding renewal. The sad point is, leases are finite and subject to the whim and capriciousness of the leesor. Some commercial leases provide for "unduly" and "unreasonably" renewal clauses.
As for political intervention, well sadly again, you don't always get what you pay for, promises 'in the wind' and caveat emptor.
My kids never knew what a time out was. FR mods, on the other hand...
So I sensored my remark, ok?
The oyster farm had been there operating just fine for almost 100 years.
There was absolutely no reason to shut them down.
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
There is the paragraph that says they can't. I don't see any following paragraph that says they can. Try again.
"The Congress shall have Power to dispose of and make all needful Rules and Regulations respecting the Territory or other Property belonging to the United States; and nothing in this Constitution shall be so construed as to Prejudice any Claims of the United States, or of any particular State."
Just hope Grijalva doesn’t take the job!!