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Obama's stealthy education takeover
WND ^ | December 09, 2012 | Barbara Simpson

Posted on 12/10/2012 8:21:28 AM PST by Perseverando

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To: onedoug
All is not yet lost.

Not so fast my friend...

I work at a large mid-western University.
Every year at this time I make it point to ask many COLLEGE students what this on this day (12/07)is signified or honored.
I am saddened each year of how many students, some of the finest young minds in our nation, have NO IDEA of what is the significance of "December 7th, 1941". I would estimate that, sadly, it is more than 80% of them.

If this trend continues...

51 posted on 12/10/2012 7:11:45 PM PST by China Clipper ( Animals? Sure I like animals. See? There they are, right next to the potatoes!)
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To: China Clipper

They are trying to purge 9-11-11 from the record books too.

They will be teaching such things as the proper way to fist or use sex toys. That seems more important these days.


52 posted on 12/10/2012 7:47:54 PM PST by USAF80
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To: Perseverando

Will parents do anything? /rhetorical question


53 posted on 12/10/2012 7:49:47 PM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: All
Bill Ayers, Obama, Dept. of Education, NEA, "scripted programs", "fundamental transformation", SDS, Weather Underground, "25 million," . . . 4 more years of this, and now they're talking about Hillary as the next communist CIC for 2016. . When are we going to say enough is enough? . .

So when is our 'Great Leap Forward' scheduled? False Flag? Martial Law? We better get organized. Prepare. . .

54 posted on 12/10/2012 10:51:40 PM PST by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only Hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: Noumenon
Who is Robert Conquest? Go to Amazon and find out.

I don't have to. I have him in my closet with my other old books. What to Do When the Russians Come.

I'm wondering if it isn't time to start adopting occupation rules of self-preservation already -- to become American Maquisards. (Yes, I'm aware of the irony, and of the fact that most Maquisards -- hence their lionization by Burt Lancaster in The Train -- were French Communists.)

55 posted on 12/10/2012 10:57:15 PM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: Perseverando
(Art.) It’s called the “Common Core Curriculum,” and it’s a national program.....

"Communist Core Curriculum", eh? Yes, they're inching toward letting us know where they're coming from.

Happiness is never having to explain 100,000,000 corpses.

56 posted on 12/10/2012 11:18:35 PM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: Teacher317

I worked at a site in Indonesia. The American working there said that the Indonesian engineers could recite equations at the drop of a hat. They couldn’t figure out a solution to a real-life problem if their lives depended on it. He called them “Automatons”.

Seems like Barry was impressed with his Asian school years.


57 posted on 12/10/2012 11:37:39 PM PST by 21twelve (So I [God] gave them over to their stubborn hearts to follow their own devices. Psalm 81:12)
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To: metmom
homeschoolers

Are not homeschoolers forced to follow the core curriculum?

58 posted on 12/11/2012 12:42:25 AM PST by Kennard
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To: Perseverando

ping


59 posted on 12/11/2012 5:57:08 AM PST by huldah1776
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To: Kennard; 2Jedismom; 6amgelsmama; AAABEST; aberaussie; AccountantMom; adopt4Christ; Aggie Mama; ...

I don’t know. Regulations vary from state to state.

I’m in NY and we were required to teach certain subjects but have the freedom to pick the curriculum or plan of instruction. The district didn’t approve it or disapprove it, only let us know if it met state standards.

It’s a kind of fine line differentiating between that and approval and disapproval, but they couldn’t tell us not to use it, but rather where it needed to be supplemented.

CA homeschoolers would be the ones to best answer that question, so I’m pinging out the list.


60 posted on 12/11/2012 6:39:17 AM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: Kennard; 2Jedismom; 6amgelsmama; AAABEST; aberaussie; AccountantMom; adopt4Christ; Aggie Mama; ...

I don’t know. Regulations vary from state to state.

I’m in NY and we were required to teach certain subjects but have the freedom to pick the curriculum or plan of instruction. The district didn’t approve it or disapprove it, only let us know if it met state standards.

It’s a kind of fine line differentiating between that and approval and disapproval, but they couldn’t tell us not to use it, but rather where it needed to be supplemented.

CA homeschoolers would be the ones to best answer that question, so I’m pinging out the list.


61 posted on 12/11/2012 6:40:22 AM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: Windflier

I got an error page when I tried to access Cscope.com.


62 posted on 12/11/2012 6:44:10 AM PST by 3catsanadog (No more blaming Bush, Obama-now you inherited the mess you made.)
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To: Windflier

Now this is weird. I can’t get your link (http://www.txscopereview.com/) to open, and I can’t get the link in the email I posted to open either.

?????


63 posted on 12/11/2012 7:18:43 AM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: 3catsanadog
I got an error page when I tried to access Cscope.com.

Yeah, I know. I'm having the same trouble. Jane Long posted an alternate link upthread, and that one won't open either.

?????

64 posted on 12/11/2012 7:20:21 AM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: metmom
CA homeschoolers would be the ones to best answer that question, so I’m pinging out the list.

we homeschoolers in California have NO regulations... no curricula approval... nada... no state standards to meet... we are treated as private schools... so we submit an R4 Affidavit once a year to document our intention to run our homeschool/private school... that is it...

65 posted on 12/11/2012 8:38:41 AM PST by latina4dubya ( self-proclaimed tequila snob)
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To: Iron Munro
Collect and save important books now. Someday soon they will be almost unavailable.

we are raising our two sons on the classics... we began the moment we brought them home... they are four years apart... instead of trying to save money and have our younger son use his brothers books, we purchase each our of boys their own, so they each can have at least the start of their own collections when they leave the nest... (we do reuse math books, science books, the text-type books)...

66 posted on 12/11/2012 9:17:15 AM PST by latina4dubya ( self-proclaimed tequila snob)
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To: lentulusgracchus

Good to hear. These days, mention of Robert Conquest, Roger Kimball, Chantal Delsol and others like them get a blank stare.

Our respective hardcopy libraries are one of the most valuable things we have.


67 posted on 12/11/2012 9:28:22 AM PST by Noumenon (As long as you have a rifle, you STILL have a vote.)
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To: I_Publius
yet another reason why we homeschool with a Classical style of education.....

we too...

68 posted on 12/11/2012 9:29:34 AM PST by latina4dubya ( self-proclaimed tequila snob)
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To: Noumenon
Our respective hardcopy libraries are one of the most valuable things we have.

Someone mentioned the fact that more and more library holdings are sitting on a server somewhere, or up in "the cloud". And I thought, "hmmmmm ..... "

Winston Smith nowadays wouldn't have a "memory hole" -- just a "delete" button.

69 posted on 12/11/2012 10:26:24 AM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: metmom
.... but rather where it needed to be supplemented.

Oh, let me guess. George Sand and Jane Austen to be "supplemented" by 155 hours of reading in Andrea Dworkin, bell hooks, Catharine Mackinnon, Naomi Wolf, and Germaine Greer. Like that?

(Notice I've got my black lesbian covered, so I'm racially and GBLT-inclusive. Death to WASPs!)

70 posted on 12/11/2012 10:32:43 AM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: 3catsanadog; Jane Long
Ok, I got an email just now with the corrected link. Here it is:

www.TxCscopeReview.com

I tried it, and it works.

71 posted on 12/11/2012 10:34:16 AM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

Well, I just tried and got a a message that requested document does not exist on this server.


72 posted on 12/11/2012 10:41:43 AM PST by 3catsanadog (No more blaming Bush, Obama-now you inherited the mess you made.)
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To: Perseverando

This was mentioned on FR. If only everyone read FR, they would not be taken by surprise by this and by the other things Obama has sneaked into bills.

Rudy Crew, former Education Commissioner of NYC and now in Florida, if he’s still there, talked about the supposed need for a national curriculum years ago at a book signing in NYC. I saw the dangers then. His justification was that other countries were “eating our lunch” in science and math.

An increased emphasis on science and math is not a bad thing, but not as a law, which is unconstitutional in the extreme, and only with the will of those involved and affected.

The de-emphasis on literature is sinister, as our culture is transmitted through literature. It is not just pretty poems and engrossing stories. I’m sure some literature will be allowed: prison writings and the voices of the “oppressed.” The great works of world literature will be a loss not only for their beauty and power to ennoble the mind but for their continuity with the world of our fathers as well.

I hadn’t heard that he had the educational testing services on board. That is the final nail in the coffin. They should soon be talking about PQ, progressiveness quotient, instead of IQ.


73 posted on 12/11/2012 10:57:28 AM PST by firebrand
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To: Iron Munro

Good point. You don’t have to burn the books, you just have to out-tech them.


74 posted on 12/11/2012 11:02:17 AM PST by firebrand
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To: firebrand

When will OB make Ayers the secretary of ed?


75 posted on 12/11/2012 11:04:21 AM PST by morphing libertarian
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To: 3catsanadog
I just tried and got a a message that requested document does not exist on this server.

That's weird. It opened for me not fifteen minutes ago. Just tried it again, and it's working fine. Here's the URL again:

http://www.txcscopereview.com/

76 posted on 12/11/2012 11:11:34 AM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: morphing libertarian

God help us. The snake charmer.


77 posted on 12/11/2012 11:12:15 AM PST by firebrand
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To: firebrand

.............we should include the title Terrorist Leader every time we mention Ayer’s name.


78 posted on 12/11/2012 11:25:41 AM PST by morphing libertarian
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To: morphing libertarian

Something similar to “Little Timmy the Tax Cheat Geithner.” I love that one.


79 posted on 12/11/2012 11:29:41 AM PST by firebrand
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To: firebrand

If I had more energy I would offer a parody, Congress Carol, with Little Timmy as the hero.


80 posted on 12/11/2012 11:41:30 AM PST by morphing libertarian
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To: lentulusgracchus

Not that I experienced.

I don’t actually recall anyone ever being told what they were doing didn’t meet state qualifications on content.

We never had any trouble with the school district nor did any other of the homeschoolers we knew.

Matter of fact, as I got to know the homsechool liaison people, they actually did what they could to help us.


81 posted on 12/11/2012 12:41:48 PM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: Windflier
The link opened for me. It looked different than when I was there, yesterday. I reloaded the page and it came up fine. It may just be the webhost.

Thanks for the link :)

82 posted on 12/11/2012 1:44:35 PM PST by Jane Long (Philippians 2:11)
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To: Scotswife
I think the gist of it is...they will “reform” college entrance exams such as SAT to match their commie curriculum.

I work for one of the largest standardized testing companies in the US, and this Common Core stuff is big on our radar. We are working with the ACT company to grab this business, so you can bet there will be incentive to make the curriculum jive with the college entrance exams.

83 posted on 12/11/2012 7:29:42 PM PST by Galatians513 (this space available for catchy tagline)
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To: RetiredArmy
yep. When Marxist Gramski talked about "the Long March through the institutions," he was referring among others to the educational establishment.
84 posted on 12/11/2012 7:29:56 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Eva
Jim DeMint is pushing school CHOICE/CHARTERS. Taking tax dollars out of public schools which have elected boards and giving it to private vendors.Taxation without representation..Private and Parochial schools will cease to exist as they must use common core curriculum and assessments once they accept TAX DOLLARS.

DeMint and Heritage must reconsider this stand.

85 posted on 12/12/2012 6:35:21 AM PST by codder too
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To: codder too

No, the way it should be done is the tax dollars should pass through the hands of the parents to be used for the education of their children, not directly to the private schools.

That claim that the state dollars require common core curriculum is bogus anyway because parochial schools have been allowed to use public school buses and public school facilities since I was in school. The Catholic school kids used our planetarium and swimming pool and there was no curriculum requirement.

I don’t care what one liberal judge said in Louisiana.


86 posted on 12/12/2012 3:57:09 PM PST by Eva
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To: Eva
Tax dollars remain tax dollars no matter how they are 'laundered'. The no-strings-attached promise regarding curriculum and assessment,has not existed since RACE-TO-THE-TOP came into being. The concern is the loss of oversight and local control by ELECTED school Boards. Taxation WITH representation is a foundational Constitutional concept which MUST be preserved.

Choice and Charters are creating a REGIONAL system. Control moves closer and closer to full FEDERAL Top-Down control. A SOVIET system, if you will.

NO CHILD LEFT BEHIND was a carefully chosen descriptor of the system. Race to The TOP speaks for itself, doesn't it? Any child being educated outside of the system in Private or Parochial or Home Sghool situation WILL be brought IN. Remember "NO" child will be left behind.

87 posted on 12/13/2012 7:28:09 AM PST by codder too
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To: codder too

Elected school boards sit on the same side of the negotiating table as the union teachers. End the union hold on the public school system and the problem would disappear. Race to the Top has no power to change settled law.

The left keeps talking about “settled law” in regard to abortion, but when it comes to the union stranglehold on education, the left ignores the concept. The race to the top also advocated ending the pay for advanced degrees and teacher tenure, but I don’t see you defending those concepts.


88 posted on 12/13/2012 8:50:48 AM PST by Eva
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To: Kennard

I homeschooled in CA. The state had nothing to do with what we taught. I was in an umbrella school, and wrote up a year-end report which became part of my son’s records.

Land of the Free and all...


89 posted on 12/14/2012 6:54:08 AM PST by bboop (does not suffer fools gladly)
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To: bboop

I homeschooled my four children. My fourth child is taking a combo of G&T highschool classes and homeschool classes this year. She told me that her education at home directly contributes to her understanding and excellent grades in class. I focused on Shakespeare, The Greeks and the Bible in our lit education. When you know these you know the human condtion, human fraility, human courage and human kindness.

This is my fourth child to tell me that his or her education was superior and stands out in highschool and in college.


90 posted on 12/14/2012 7:04:55 AM PST by Chickensoup (Leftist Totalitarian Fascism coming to a country like yours.)
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To: Chickensoup

Yes, it is a terrific way to teach (I had earlier taught in the classroom). I learned so much. My son and his new, young wife are pregnant and are intending to homeschool their child.

There were many things I didn’t get to, and also things I would have done differently. I finally figured that maybe the only thing I could teach our son, really, was how to think for himself, and that he’d have 60 years to learn everything else.


91 posted on 12/14/2012 10:30:26 AM PST by bboop (does not suffer fools gladly)
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