Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Here's How the Obama Admin. Is Considering Responding to Legal Pot in Colorado and Washington
Reason.com ^ | Dec. 6, 2012 10:26 pm | Mike Riggs

Posted on 12/06/2012 9:26:57 PM PST by Red Steel

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-8081-93 next last
To: Red Steel

I think the worst and most corrupt thing that came out of the Reagan administration were the Asset Forfeiture laws. Reminds me of an Aesop fable, the Eagle and it’s feather. Asset Forfeiture was a great idea in theory, but in the hands of Bureaucrats it becomes a tool of oppression used to leverage ourselves from our Liberties, and there will always be Bureaucrats.

I don’t like or support drug cartels. There are many recreational drugs I don’t like or care to use or care to have others use, but in the end, it’s not my business.

In the end I think it’s appropriate for the Government to limit the sale, possession and use of these types of drugs, but not prohibit in toto. Under the common welfare clause they have the right to regulate and limit the providers, the sellers and the users, but prohibit.


41 posted on 12/07/2012 4:31:07 AM PST by Usagi_yo
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: varmintman
150 Years ago, there were no drug laws in America and there were no overwhelming drug problems. How bright do you really need to be to figure that one out?

Not very, but then most folks are now educated in schools with "standards" dictated by the feds, so there aren't too many bright people left.

42 posted on 12/07/2012 5:03:04 AM PST by cizinec ("Brother, your best friend ain't your Momma, it's the Field Artillery.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 30 | View Replies]

To: RginTN

And clearly our current drug laws saved them.

The problem in your story is the fact that we have laws that force contributing members of society to give to those who CHOSE to do dope, i.e. theft. If someone CHOOSES to fail, and doing dope is clearly making that choice, then I shouldn’t have to pay for their stupidity. Freedom comes with responsibility.

That means I shouldn’t have to pay with my money for their housing and food, with my money for overactive and overreaching “law enforcement”, but especially not with my God given rights or with my freedoms.


43 posted on 12/07/2012 5:13:41 AM PST by cizinec ("Brother, your best friend ain't your Momma, it's the Field Artillery.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 39 | View Replies]

To: cizinec

Well said.


44 posted on 12/07/2012 5:27:16 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Republicans have made themselves useless, toothless, and clueless.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 43 | View Replies]

To: RginTN
I have no problem with the war on drugs because I’ve had family members mess up their lives, their health, their finances for drugs and then the taxpayer is stuck paying the price for theses family members drug abuse.

I'm guessing that you WILL have a problem with the WOD the day after your first no-knock raid....

45 posted on 12/07/2012 6:32:04 AM PST by varmintman
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 39 | View Replies]

To: Secret Agent Man

Yep, when the feds come to arrest the low level pot users, the county sheriff should be there to arrest and expel the feds.

We need a precedent set where any law that a state makes that isn’t an enumerated power of the Congress (Art I Sec 8) takes precedent over federal regulation.

Since that section of the Constitution doesn’t cover “substances”, state law is supreme via the 10th amendment.

(I’m not in favor of pot use. But I AM in favor of standing up to the feds and putting them in their cage.)


46 posted on 12/07/2012 6:37:04 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: svcw

My friend just died of pancreatic cancer. He found great relief smoking pot.
It’s a free country if people want to smoke it (even if they are not sick) I say have at it.


47 posted on 12/07/2012 6:42:07 AM PST by Captain PJ (Are we there yet?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: FlingWingFlyer

The state of Washington says that the amount that will go into the coffers is 550 million which is enough to pay the entire year of the Police department which means that they should be able to lower everyone’s property taxes right??? lol.


48 posted on 12/07/2012 6:43:25 AM PST by napscoordinator (GOP Candidate 2020 - "Bloomberg 2020 - We vote for whatever crap the GOP puts in front of us.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: driftless2
Puzzling. Most of the people in the Obama admin probably use illegal substances on a regular basis. Obama is most likely smoking a joint at this moment.

I was thinking hypocritical, but it is very puzzling.

5.56mm

49 posted on 12/07/2012 6:45:19 AM PST by M Kehoe
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 35 | View Replies]

To: count-your-change

OK, here are the first five paragraphs from the first link...

Guess what? The District Court ruled in favor of the sheriffs. In fact, they stated, Wyoming is a sovereign state and the duly elected sheriff of a county is the highest law enforcement official within a county and has law enforcement powers exceeding that of any other state or federal official.” Go back and re-read this quote.

The court confirms and asserts that “the duly elected sheriff of a county is the highest law enforcement official within a county and has law enforcement powers EXCEEDING that of any other state OR federal official.” And you thought the 10th Amendment was dead and buried — not in Wyoming, not yet.

Bighorn County Sheriff Dave Mattis spoke at a press conference following a recent U.S. District Court decision

(Case No. 2:96-cv-099-J (2006)) and announced that all federal officials are forbidden to enter his county without his prior approval ……

“If a sheriff doesn’t want the Feds in his county he has the constitutional right and power to keep them out, or ask them to leave, or retain them in custody.”


50 posted on 12/07/2012 7:25:36 AM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 32 | View Replies]

To: M Kehoe

Your word is better. I meant hypocritical, strange, and puzzling. Why would a bunch of substance abusers, as many many members of the Obama admin surely are, be against legal dope?


51 posted on 12/07/2012 7:57:39 AM PST by driftless2
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 49 | View Replies]

To: FlingWingFlyer

The medicinal value of pot is not the issue.
The tax value of the pot is not the issue.

Freedom is the issue, but that’s not reason enough these days.


52 posted on 12/07/2012 8:49:25 AM PST by fnord (If my liberty is not part of the social contract, I opt out)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: TigersEye
What those rulings arose from was attempts by the feds to get the state officials to enforce federal laws and that is what makes it pertinent to states legalizing marijuana while federal law still makes it illegal. Nothing prevents the DEA, the FBI, etc. from enforcing federal law in all states.

Sheriff Mattis can make any statement and interpretation he wants to but no federal leo needs his permission to operate within any county. And NO court has said they do.

These garbage blogs keep repeating Sheriff Mattis’ words as though it was law or the opinion of some federal court and another blog repeats what the first said as a source.

Sheriff Mattis sounds like he doing a little chest beating with his interpretations.

53 posted on 12/07/2012 8:54:24 AM PST by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 50 | View Replies]

To: Secret Agent Man

Is this true for all states?


54 posted on 12/07/2012 9:25:14 AM PST by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to, otherwise, things would be different.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: fnord

Unfortunately, when the potheads were pushing for the legalization of marijuana, “freedom” never crossed there minds. Not much does. It was all about “sick people suffering because they couldn’t smoke pot” and how we should “legalize it and then tax the hell out of it.” Freedom isn’t the issue either. Getting stoned is the issue.


55 posted on 12/07/2012 12:08:44 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Don't tax me bro! Tax that guy over there!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 52 | View Replies]

To: varmintman

You’re ignoring the druggie impact on the non-druggie.
I don’t want one taxpayer dollar used to support the druggie. If you can give some ways for that not to happen then I would take your response seriously.


56 posted on 12/07/2012 1:24:36 PM PST by RginTN
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 45 | View Replies]

To: cizinec

The problem with my story is the taxpayer supporting my druggie family members.

The drug laws have been helpful. When a druggie is thrown in jail they can’t abuse other non-druggies especially children.

Frankly I would like to deny all druggies taxpayer money, sterilize them and take away their children. Also punish them severly if they commit crimes while high on drugs and if they steal to get money for drugs.
If that happens I’ll be ok legalizing drugs.


57 posted on 12/07/2012 1:36:22 PM PST by RginTN
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 43 | View Replies]

To: RginTN
The problem with my story is the taxpayer supporting my druggie family members.

The drug laws have been helpful. When a druggie is thrown in jail they can’t abuse other non-druggies especially children.

Frankly I would like to deny all druggies taxpayer money, sterilize them and take away their children. Also punish them severly if they commit crimes while high on drugs and if they steal to get money for drugs.

Does all that include the addictive mind-altering legal drug alcohol?

If that happens I’ll be ok legalizing drugs.

Are you OK with the legality of the addictive mind-altering drug alcohol?

58 posted on 12/07/2012 1:41:20 PM PST by JustSayNoToNannies ("mouth piece from the pit of hell" (Bellflower, 11/10/2012))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 57 | View Replies]

To: JustSayNoToNannies
"Are you OK with the legality of the addictive mind-altering drug alcohol?"

what's your point?

you read the terms under which I would legalize all drugs

59 posted on 12/07/2012 2:18:36 PM PST by RginTN
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 58 | View Replies]

To: jsanders2001
My stepson has an aunt in California that is so addicted to pot she does it all day [...]

Studies have shown that the addictive potential of marijuana is less than that of caffeine, alcohol, and tobacco.

[...] This woman is in her late 60’s for heavens sake. She was a flower child in the sixties. Go figure.

Go figure what? Are you saying that she is infringing upon anyone else's rights or is a menace to society? That she belongs behind bars?

Regards,

60 posted on 12/07/2012 2:41:16 PM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 38 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-8081-93 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson