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Michigan House passes right-to-work measure in defiance of angry unions, minority Democrats
WaPo ^ | 12/6/12 | AP

Posted on 12/06/2012 5:01:27 PM PST by Nachum

LANSING, Mich. — Michigan House passes right-to-work measure in defiance of angry

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TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: house; michigan; righttowork
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To: Nachum

Thank you Mark Ouimet. Unfortunately, I’m stuck with a dim state rep after lame duck, but this is one hell of a parting shot.


61 posted on 12/07/2012 6:06:08 AM PST by Darren McCarty (If most people were more than keyboard warriors, we might have won the election)
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To: madison10
It is a fallacy that RTW brings more jobs to states. Good not to be forced to pay union dues, but the cause and effect has not been proven.

It will be nice for some folks who make minimum wage not to give the damn unions a dime of their money.

62 posted on 12/07/2012 7:31:35 AM PST by dragonblustar (Allah Ain't So Akbar!)
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To: cripplecreek

When RTW was being debated in Indiana last year, a Representative made in interesting point. She said that “A right to work measure is not an attack in unions. Actually, giving people the freedom to choose to join a union will make unions more accountable to their members.”

Think about it. In a forced union environment, does the union really give a damn what their members think when they are forced to join and forced to pay dues? All that the union wants are their dues and 51% of the vote to strike. Plus, those dues are being used for PACs and other activities that members may not even want or agree with.

I think that is one reason why there are union members that want RTW. They want the union to be accountable to them. In Indiana, there were stories of union members being dragged out of union meetings just for opposing a union strike or policy. RTW will change that and members will simply leave the union if it doesn’t serve them.


63 posted on 12/07/2012 7:42:20 AM PST by TMA62 (Al Sharpton - The North Korea of race relations)
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To: cripplecreek
Agreed, Cripplecreek — I heard the governor of Michigan on FOX News today explaining that being a supporter of right-to-work legislation didn't mean he was anti-union, and that unions need to do a better job of presenting their message to potential members.

I wrote my post before hearing what the governor said but his points were basically the same that I wrote.

Maybe there's something in the Michigan water.

More seriously, maybe it has to do with Republicans in heavily unionized states like Michigan seeing that lots of union members are actually pretty decent guys. The big problem is the union leadership, not the rank-and-file.

Get rid of mandatory union membership and some unions will go back to helping their members. The rest won't be around for long, or won't have enough members to be a problem.

64 posted on 12/07/2012 7:43:58 AM PST by darrellmaurina
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To: cripplecreek
“The big 3 will almost undoubtedly remain largely unionized but it sure frees up the smaller suppliers.”

Not a chance!

After the ‘little 3’ went to a 2-tier wage system there is no chance that those 2nd tier employees will keep paying dues when they get half the wage and very few benefits.

They will lose 90% of those new members within months of this taking effect.

65 posted on 12/07/2012 7:55:00 AM PST by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: darrellmaurina
Leader of the Union Conservatives explains it quite well.

Michigan UAW Member Demands Right to Work Law

Forced solidarity is no solidarity at all. Even prisoners in a chain gang have “solidarity.” Only through complete voluntary unionism will there be real solidarity that fosters mature relationships to save and create jobs. To be pro-union worker means to be pro-right to work.

Terry Bowman testifies before congress against his own union's political fundraising and activities
66 posted on 12/07/2012 7:56:38 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: dearolddad

Two hours per month. Over 400 employees working there, that adds up.


67 posted on 12/07/2012 9:08:23 AM PST by Springman (Rest In Peace YaYa123, Bahbah, and Just Lori.)
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To: madison10

But it is not a fallacy that weaker unions have a harder time to shut businesses down.


68 posted on 12/07/2012 9:12:28 AM PST by Safetgiver ( Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: darrellmaurina

Well said.

Free association? Fine.

Except for government employees. Unions + Democrats + Government = Corruption and Bankruptcy. They should be banned.


69 posted on 12/07/2012 9:14:50 AM PST by Jacquerie ("How few were left who had seen the republic!" - Tacitus, The Annals)
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To: cripplecreek

70 posted on 12/07/2012 11:37:43 AM PST by crosshairs (Hurricane Barry is 1000 times more destructive than Hurricane Sandy.)
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To: crosshairs

His T-shirt reads: SEIU/Obama
What a surprise!


71 posted on 12/07/2012 11:45:36 AM PST by WVKayaker ("Hang in there, America. Fight for what is right." - Sarah Palin 11/7/12)
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To: madison10

Really? Come to Texas....


72 posted on 12/07/2012 3:47:10 PM PST by free-n-TX
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To: Nachum

WINNING!!! (No. 1, House)

WINNING!!! (No. 2, Senate)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2966393/posts

Just kinda makes you smile at the thought of all those Dem heads detonating, doesn’t it???


73 posted on 12/08/2012 8:45:40 PM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: madison10

Actually it does. I’m in S.E. TN and we have plenty of non-union jobs while still making a good wage. People are moving here from all over to take these jobs. TN is a right to work state and unions don’t do well here. Since they can’t swindle workers out of their hard earned money they can’t stay long. Company’s know this. If a union does manage to get in, since workers are not forced to join, the unions can’t make money. If we weren’t a right to work state, company’s would just pack up and leave the way they have in other states.


74 posted on 12/09/2012 9:11:56 AM PST by Melinda in TN
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To: Melinda in TN

company’s=companies

DUH!


75 posted on 12/09/2012 9:18:24 AM PST by Melinda in TN
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