Posted on 12/06/2012 3:51:33 PM PST by NYer
Florida sure knows how to deal with those pesky costs for the disabled don’t they?
Call Sarah!
The "State" didn't do anything; an overpaid, megalomaniacal "social worker" ignored the judges' order and as such, should be held criminally responsible for this little angel's death.
... what was the penalty for defying the court?
If nothing, does this mean we can all defy Obamacare without penalty?
The very definition of the word "coward".
No, not at all. I was there that day in front of the hospital. Jeb Bush got NO public support and there were more press than people at the vigil. It was humiliating. If you live here, you should have been there, but I bet you weren’t.
Bush was undermined time and again by Jim King, from Jacksonville, the pro-death GOP leader of the FL State Senate.
The very last day, Bush was in discussions with the State Police, because the local Tampa St Pete area sheriff’s department and the local police were prepared to shoot if anyone tried to enter the hospital to rescue her. He decided that going in with the state police would not only result in other deaths and injuries, but would cause a constitutional crisis in the state of Florida (because he had exhausted all the legal remedies).
So before you call people “cowards,” examine yourself. How many times have you been arrested or spat upon and kicked at pro-life vigils? I have, and almost everybody in that little band (of Catholics and Evangelicals) out there with me in front of the hospital had had that same experience. But the worst thing of all was ridicule, and the fact that there were so few of us made us completely powerless and ridiculous. Where were you, and where were all the other scornful, venom-spewing Freepers, many of them in Florida, that day?
I have done so and I am not and if you defend him you are.
I hope you feel better after spewing that crap.
Coward is as coward does.
Results are all that count.
Bush let her be murdered because he is a coward.
The indifference of the larger community to Terri’s situation struck me, as well. It was as if we were in a little bubble at the hospice, enveloped in that spiritual battle. It seems one must be in the situation to understand. It was sad and perplexing.
Ping!
Were you there too? You’re the first Freeper I have met who was there!
Sad and perplexing definitely describes it. I think a lot of that had to do with the hostile attitude of the Bishop of St Petersburg, Bp Lynch. He basically forbade his clergy to give any assistance to Terri or her family. If I had been a priest in that diocese, I simply would have said “the heck with it” and gone in, and I’m sure any priest who did that would have been supported by the Vatican. But the clergy had been suppressed and the laypeople of that diocese and in fact in all of Florida had never been called out and it was clear that in the opinion of the Florida bishops, whatever the state did was fine.
The only thing I can think of as an excuse is that many of the events in the few last days of Terri’s life occurred while JPII was dying, and probably there was some distraction because of that.
However, since that time almost all of the Florida bishops have been replaced (except, ironically, Lynch, although he’s become a lot more orthodox) and this would never happen again. But there’s a long way to go because the laity is so badly formed. My bishop had an overnight vigil to pray about the elections (he’s a well known opponent of Obama and statism) - while some of the leading lights of the parish were driving around with Obama stickers on their cars.
We’ve got a lot of work to do. I don’t know whether you’re Catholic or Evangelical (the only two groups who seem to have showed up), but one of the big problems is that the majority of both groups have somehow fallen into believing that the law of the state basically defines the moral law. It’s only a minority of Catholics or Evangelicals who really understand the issues.
bfl
Looks like they took the Nazi’s T-4 facility at Hadamar and moved it to Florida.
I was out in front of that hospice many, many times.
Along with several other FReepers.
Nobody spat at any of us while we were there, and I didn't see any arrests.
I did see several “activists” who frankly had their own agendas,muddied up the situation, and didn't care much about Terri and her plight at all.
The judge, many politicians, the media, and every loser with an agenda kept trying to make Terri Schiavo out to be a symbol of “ the right to death with dignity”.
The problem was, Terri wasn't dying, except for the times (plural) when the court ordered her to be forcibly starved and dehydrated.
And yes, Gov. Jeb Bush could have stopped her execution.
Make no mistake, Terri Schiavo was executed by the State of Florida.
Jeb Bush had plenty of public and elected official support. He also had opposition.
But he failed as a leader, and yes, I consider him a coward.
It appears this poor child was murdered by rogue government employees, as opposed to officially executed, under State sanction.
That being said, I sincerely doubt those individuals directly culpable in her murder will even be investigated, much less punished.
After all, one would have to actively prove malicious intent in a court of law...mere incompetence and dereliction of duty won't suffice.
Yes, several times. I’m sorry our paths didn’t cross!
floriduh voter was there most of the time, and very dedicated, also Eternal Vigilence. I know other freepers were there as well, but unfortunately I didn’t knowingly meet them. One freeper no longer active went down before all got dire and I got to meet her on her way back to Texas - she drove from that far away, to pray at the hospice! that dedicated!
For 'micropreemie,' parents had difficult choice: Fight or let go?
Part I came out yesterday: Never Let Go
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Interestingly, here's an article she wrote: From ordinary girl to international icon
Thanks for the updated information and links. I truly appreciate those. And thank you for the comment on the maternal cells thread. Seems we share a common interest in supplemental information via links. :-)
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I guess she lived up to her name.
This is a tragic story.
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