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1 posted on 12/06/2012 2:25:29 PM PST by BenLurkin
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I don't think people are leaving California for lack of high-speed rail.

2 posted on 12/06/2012 2:29:26 PM PST by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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Janice Hahn is the daughter of Kenny Hahn the long time L.A. County Surpivor.

I met Kenny Hahn yers ago, and had the misfortune of having to interact with his staff. He was a slimeball machine politician of the worst kind.


3 posted on 12/06/2012 2:29:44 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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Transportation congestion is strangling the business potential of our state and weighing down the economic activity that isn’t just critical to the success of California, but to the nation as a whole,”

BS. It is taxes and regulation that are doing this, not transportation congestion. Hey, you dimwit, how about dealing with the 5,000,000 illegals driving on the roads of California?

Idiots like this should be horsewhipped.

4 posted on 12/06/2012 2:30:44 PM PST by 17th Miss Regt
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If High Speed Rail is so great, and so crucial, why isn’t it being built all across the country by now? Why doesn’t the government do exactly what they did in the 1800’s to get the Transcontinental Railway completed? Bullet trains railways need new tracks and new paths that can be built to accommodate the higher speeds. THAT would be a stimulus...........


5 posted on 12/06/2012 2:31:57 PM PST by Red Badger (Lincoln freed the slaves. Obama just got them ALL back......................)
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To: BenLurkin
"High-Speed Rail" translated:

"Democrat-mandated diversion of millions of tax payer dollars to labor unions that donate to Democrat politicians via union dues"

In summary.. MONEY LAUNDERING OPERATION

6 posted on 12/06/2012 2:35:00 PM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (IMPEACH OBAMA)
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To: BenLurkin

If we could tax, borrow and spend our way to prosperity, we’d all be rich by now.


7 posted on 12/06/2012 2:35:12 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: BenLurkin
Crucial to train unions,
8 posted on 12/06/2012 2:39:15 PM PST by cruise_missile
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To: BenLurkin

A fact to consider:

Passenger rail service has NEVER been profitable, and has always been subsidized by freight charges.


9 posted on 12/06/2012 2:40:09 PM PST by Kansas58
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To: BenLurkin

These people are delusional


10 posted on 12/06/2012 2:41:27 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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Willie Green, please pick up the perennial in the red public train courtesy phone...


12 posted on 12/06/2012 2:44:28 PM PST by TADSLOS (No need to watch the movie "Idiocracy". We're living it.)
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To: BenLurkin

Government Corporate Union Welfare.


16 posted on 12/06/2012 2:59:34 PM PST by soycd
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Take the total cost of building and operating for a decade, divide by ridership, and I’ll bet anything it is more than $1,000,000 per rider.

You can pay people to stay home and it is cheaper than trains. Almost every time.


18 posted on 12/06/2012 3:11:55 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (BOHICA eGOP!)
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A basic problem with this high speed rail is paradoxical.

This is, that about the only place you can put such rail is over the same right of way already used by low speed rail.

And almost all the low speed rail right of ways West of the Mississippi are owned by Union Pacific. Creating new right of way would be insanely expensive.

But this also means that the California high speed rail is intended to take the place of low speed rail lines. And in this case, if low speed rail already existed, it is a great indicator of how profitable high speed rail lines would be.

In a nutshell, it isn’t. The low speed rail lines on this route have long been money losers. There just isn’t the demand they need even for low speed rail.

But, they insist, high speed rail will be profitable. Because it is high! and speed! and rail!

And that is no way to run a railroad.


19 posted on 12/06/2012 3:12:09 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Pennies and Nickels will NO LONGER be Minted as of 1/1/13 - Tim Geithner, US Treasury Sect)
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To: BenLurkin

Barf me out...


20 posted on 12/06/2012 3:24:30 PM PST by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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However, Hahn said the project will not only provide much-needed transportation alternatives, but will also bring jobs to thousands of Californians.

I'm sick and tired of these liberal a$$h*le politicians saying we need things for "thousands of jobs"! It's always a lie! Heck, let's build a monorail to Hawaii, that'll create thousands of jobs. But we do not need these things!

Let's spend money because it's critical and necessary, not because it's wonderful to have someone work on it (and worthless middlemen make up the bulk of "jobs"). High speed trains are trains to no where and don't benefit the majority of people who would never use it. You want transportation, provide more bus lines. Far cheaper and more flexible.

23 posted on 12/06/2012 3:44:48 PM PST by roadcat
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High speed rail lines require many things . Long straight runs that don’t have towns & cities along the line because you have to slow down when going thru towns & cities to be safe due to city traffic & noise complaints . You need a dedicated rail line ie no freight trains on the same track as the high speed rail. most important of all is paying customers to ride the damn thing . if you don’t have these things you got a boondoggle ,nothing else.


25 posted on 12/06/2012 3:54:37 PM PST by Nebr FAL owner
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Critical?

Bull manure! Something we’ve never had does not somehow become critical to have.

Invariably, the more gubmint thugs lust after a thing, the more detrimental it is or will be to JQ Public. That’s Robin’s Law #3.


28 posted on 12/06/2012 4:37:16 PM PST by RobinOfKingston (Democrats--the party of Evil. Republicans--the party of Stupid.)
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Now that I think about it, since we’re all going to be subsidizing this high-speed train line with tax payments for a long long time, I’d rather build the train line from from LA to Las Vegas. At least then, when we get off the train in Vegas we’ll get free drinks from hot-looking waitresses as partial compensation for our tax subsidies. I suggest we re-route this train from LA to Las Vegas.


30 posted on 12/06/2012 5:05:01 PM PST by socialism_stinX (The national government is always the most dangerous organization in every country.)
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They would get more ridership and repeat ridership if instead the either restore or build modern replicas of the Golden Age steam locomotives. From the 21st Century Limited to my favorite of which I have almost every engine and passenger car is the Southern Pacific Daylight. Arguably one of the prettiest steam locomotives the GS-4.
32 posted on 12/06/2012 5:55:05 PM PST by Eye of Unk (A Civil Cold War in America is here, its already been declared.)
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