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The Loss of the Fourth Estate and the Threat to American Liberty
The Christian Post ^ | 11-28-12 | Wallace Henley

Posted on 12/03/2012 7:35:37 PM PST by ReformationFan

One of the most chilling realities of the contemporary age in the United States and other Western nations is the demise of the Fourth Estate. The death of a vigorous and free press came when mainstream media and other vital components of the information establishment became propaganda organs for the government.

"If it were left to me to decide whether we should have a government without a free press or a free press without a government, I would prefer the latter," said Thomas Jefferson.

Edmund Burke, an 18th century British political philosopher, seeded the concept of the Fourth Estate. The "three estates" present in the Parliament were the king, the lords, and the commons. But, said Burke, there was a "fourth estate" that trumped them all – the press.

The contemporary co-opting of journalists and journalism by politicians and their regimes has led to a polarization of media. As mainstream print and broadcast journalists have veered increasingly to the left, the right has responded with its own conservative media establishment.

This was a necessary development, vital for countering leftist propaganda. But the demise of the Fourth Estate means there's not much left in the middle to probe for the truth buried somewhere beneath the shrills and shills of left and right. Who can the people trust to give them the plain, unspun facts?

Journalistic agenda-ism has suffocated the Fourth Estate. And that brings danger to what is slowly becoming less and less a free republic.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 1stamendment; 4thestate; freepress; liberty; msm; pravda; wallacehenley

1 posted on 12/03/2012 7:35:50 PM PST by ReformationFan
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To: ReformationFan
The Loss of the Fourth Estate WHOREHOUSE . . .

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2 posted on 12/03/2012 7:42:38 PM PST by tomkat (smack in the middle of PAlabama)
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To: ReformationFan
One of the most chilling realities of the contemporary age in the United States and other Western nations is the demise suicide of the Fourth Estate.

It can't happen soon enough. The real question is credentialing freelance investigation for access to government documents and to interview officials. With Zero getting away with the kind of secrecy under which he has been operating, I don't see that happening soon.

3 posted on 12/03/2012 7:43:27 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The Slave Party: advancing indenture since 1787.)
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To: tomkat
Well - look at the viewership the Presstitutes in broadcast media attracts - a tiny sliver of the public ever tunes them in.

Thankfully (for not at least) we have the Internet which exposes the liars of the left in media.

4 posted on 12/03/2012 7:46:35 PM PST by Ron C.
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To: Ron C.

SHB ‘for NOW at least)


5 posted on 12/03/2012 7:47:45 PM PST by Ron C.
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To: ReformationFan

The irony is that many of the same people shilling for government tend to be the ones that fall first.


6 posted on 12/03/2012 7:49:45 PM PST by Tench_Coxe
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To: Tench_Coxe

Exactly. The ole “throw ‘em under the bus” adage at work.


7 posted on 12/03/2012 7:51:27 PM PST by ReformationFan
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To: Carry_Okie

Most gubment bad behavior is joint Fed/state, and as such the state open documents laws apply. We will have to make do with what we have, though I agree that the future seems a bit “interesting”.


8 posted on 12/03/2012 7:54:51 PM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."..)
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To: Tench_Coxe

“The irony is that many of the same people shilling for government tend to be the ones that fall first.”

Those who lie by the pen should die by the pen.

;-)


9 posted on 12/03/2012 7:56:03 PM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."..)
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To: ReformationFan

According to Sieyes there are only three estates. I never realized Burke suggested a fourth.


10 posted on 12/03/2012 8:04:58 PM PST by Wyrd bi ful ard (Gone Galt, 11/07/12)
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To: ReformationFan

The overwhelming lack of journalistic curiosity about the candidacy of Obama is compelling evidence against the use of tax dollars for College and University Student Loans, and financial aid to education at the above high school level.

Society pays to high a price when our journalists cannot be relied upon to independently seek out basic information about our political candidates.

Obviously, if The Government pays for a journalist’s college degree, that journalist will never be objective or critical of The Government.

Journalists have thus become The Government’s guns for hire.

‘Here’s your Student Loan, kid. Now spend the rest of your sorry life saying only nice things about The Government.’


11 posted on 12/03/2012 8:06:54 PM PST by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: tomkat
UNHINGED_4

12 posted on 12/03/2012 8:11:49 PM PST by Wings-n-Wind (The main things are the plain things!)
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To: ReformationFan

Almost all the serious shifting of public discourse and opinion of the last 50 years and particularly since Watergate and the election of Reagan in 1980 can be directly traced to the coming-out-of-the-liberal-closet of the progressive college educated liberal media.

And I don’t see what an be effectively done to combat it. I used to believe that free information on the internet (like on FR) would render such propaganda ineffective. If anything it is the opposite. Now, any so-called ‘news website’, no matter how obviously progressively slanted they are (such as Media Matters), can ‘publish’ any fake opinion they choose and their willing accomplishes on MSNBC/NBC et. al will run it as a news story and the mostly uninformed public sheeple simply don’t know they are being manipulated - being lied to, in fact.


13 posted on 12/03/2012 8:23:48 PM PST by citizen (We get the government we choose. America either voted for Obama or handed it to him by not voting.)
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To: Graewoulf
The overwhelming lack of journalistic curiosity about anything is astonishing, and chilling.
14 posted on 12/03/2012 8:32:28 PM PST by NonValueAdded (If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, you've likely misread the situation.)
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To: ReformationFan
Pat Caddell called it.

Pat Caddell slams the media: They have become an “enemy of the people” Sept. 29, 2012(video 26:00)

Emotional Pat Caddell on the MSM ignoring Benghazi: “These people have no honor!” Oct. 27, 2012 (video at link 4:06)

The Media will not report the truth!

15 posted on 12/03/2012 9:00:12 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: ReformationFan

When Obama misread TOTUS (Teleprompter Of The US) comming across the word corpse he was refering to the white house press corpse..


16 posted on 12/03/2012 9:06:39 PM PST by mosesdapoet ("A voice crying in the wilderness make streight for the way of the Lord")
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To: ReformationFan
One of the most chilling realities of the contemporary age in the United States and other Western nations is the demise of the Fourth Estate.

Oh, the Fourth Estate is still there. It's name has been changed to the Fifth Column, that's all.

17 posted on 12/03/2012 9:08:24 PM PST by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: Charles Martel

Is that from a quote from Michael Savage?


18 posted on 12/03/2012 9:31:04 PM PST by tbw2
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To: ReformationFan

It began when the media realized they COULD bring down a government, as they did with Nixon during Watergate, which came nowhere near the minimum requirements for impeachment.

Then, they began to realize that they had the power to influence public opinion, until finally, in 2008, they were able to install their own federal government, in Obama. The problem is that they see themselves as a part of the government, and as such will do anything to protect it, even if it means hiding not just incompetence and malfeasance, but HUGE and SERIOUS crimes from the public.

Mark


19 posted on 12/04/2012 12:05:10 AM PST by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: MarkL
It began when the media realized they COULD bring down a government, as they did with Nixon during Watergate, which came nowhere near the minimum requirements for impeachment.

Disagree respectfully. This has not been an organic evolution within Western journalism, but an induced, organized rot introduced into Western high society, elite academia, and opinion-leadership journalism and infotainment professions by the Soviet intelligence services and the Communist International (COMINTERN) going all the way back to Feliks Dzherzhinsky and his Cheka. It will have been a Chekist who started the infamous Cambridge recruitment effort which eventually yielded the Philby Ring and put one of that ring next to the Queen herself (Anthony Blount).

In America, one of the first universities attacked was Columbia University, and another was Indiana University (home of Alfred Kinsey and his perverted phreak show). By the 1930's both campuses were known as Little Red Schoolhouses. Dzherzhinsky and his successsors also attacked Hollywood (Dalton Trumbo, Will Geer, and dozens of others) and tried to turn it into a closed shop of Red propagandists -- they were frustrated by Ronald Reagan, and the Red unionists were beaten by George Meany of the AFL-CIO and Walter Reuther of the UAW.s Unfortunately, no champion arose in education, journalism, or academia to confront them, and their career of destruction and disinformation (they invented that word -- dezinformatsiya in Russian) has been virtually unchecked.

Others will disagree, but I think the press and "media" have been in Soviet hands for a long, long time -- at least since the late 60's, when Vance Packard wrote about the emerging monochromatic commentariat in media.

20 posted on 12/04/2012 1:54:10 AM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: tbw2
Is that from a quote from Michael Savage?

I've posted that comment here in various forms since 2008, but yes, it appears that Savage has hit upon it as well:

4th Estate = 5th Column.

21 posted on 12/04/2012 4:12:15 AM PST by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: ReformationFan

It is an establishment that has very limited accountability, and one of the most egregious examples of it bias is that of Vietnam War: http://www.conservapedia.com/Liberal_bias#Vietnam_War

See also http://www.conservapedia.com/Liberal_bias#Statistical_data

(not that Conservapedia is known for diligent objectivity)


22 posted on 12/04/2012 4:19:46 AM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: ReformationFan

The Pew Research Center’s latest analysis puts hard numbers against the claim that the press went out of its way to get Obama re-elected.

According to the report, after months of positive press, “Obama’s coverage improved dramatically” in the crucial final week of the campaign.

In fact, 29% of the stories about Obama that week were positive and just 19% were negative. At the same time, a third of the stories about Mitt Romney were negative, and just 16% were positive.

When it comes to bias, MSNBC is in a league of its own, Pew found. It ran zero negative stories about Obama and zero positive stories about Romney in that last week.

Not only did Obama’s overall coverage improve dramatically, he got far more of it. Pew found that in the last week, 80% of campaign stories featured Obama, compared with 62% for Romney. -http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/112012-634214-how-press-helped-obama-win-reelection.htm


23 posted on 12/04/2012 8:05:12 AM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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