All true, except that the Pali’s don’t want a state for just this reason. So long as they’re a mere “territory”, they don’t have to play by any rules and cannot be held accountable for their actions.
“No, those approaches are proven losers.”
Yes, because the one thing the Israelis have never ever done is officially give the Palestinians the statehood they claim to want.
No sovereign nation has to tolerate aggression from another sovereign country. NONE. If any other country attacked Israel, most of the people that FReepers think are anti-Zionists in Europe would be on Israel’s side in a heartbeat. Iraq, Iran, Syria, Jordan, Afghanistan - if any of those nations attacked Israel the West would take Israel’s side.
But at the moment, the average man on the street in Europe still thinks of the West Bank as a province of Israel which is just as much Samaritan, Christian or Jewish as it is Muslim, hence they see Israel’s claim of greater victimhood as incongruous with its militarily dominant position.
What he tends not to understand so well is the argument of forcibly displacing one group of settled Israelis in favour of another group of settler Israelis, in Israeli territory, when there’s more than enough land for them all to live on and they’re all surrounded by Israelis with guns who’re overwhelmingly on the side of the settlers anyway and by the way what kind of settler wants to live in Bandit Country when there’s prime beach front all-Jewish real estate sitting empty on the Med Coast, far away from the rockets and the smelly A-rabs.
The word round here, unfortunately, is “lebensraum”. People just can’t see the argument not having the two state solution unless Israel wants the whole area ethnically cleansed so it can be 100% Jewish.
Again, all this misconception would be easily rectified IF the Palestinians had statehood because even the dumbest of anti-Zionist Brits understands the concept of border security.
“So long as they’re a mere “territory”, they don’t have to play by any rules and cannot be held accountable for their actions.”
Of course. If people look at the history books, they invariably observe that every nation that’s ever sought independence from an oppressive government (yes, America, that includes you!) has used any means necessary to repel the occupying forces in the game of winning independence, without the rest of the world saying “you can’t do that”.
That is precisely the same moral argument that the Palestinians use to muddy the moral waters and that is why the two state solution is so vital.