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Ralph Nader: President Obama’s a ‘war criminal’ [video at link]
Politico ^ | 9/25/12 | PATRICK GAVIN

Posted on 12/02/2012 2:37:38 PM PST by grundle

It’s no surprise that Ralph Nader isn’t a fan of former President George W. Bush. After all, the longtime activist ran against him in both 2000 and 2004. But Nader’s even less a fan of President Barack Obama, if only because he thinks Obama was capable of so much more.

On issues related to the military and foreign policy, Obama’s worse than Bush, “in the sense that he’s more aggressive, more illegal worldwide,” Nader told POLITICO, going so far as to call Obama a “war criminal.”

“He’s gone beyond George W. Bush in drones, for example. He thinks the world is his plate, that national sovereignties mean nothing, drones can go anywhere. They can kill anybody that he suspects and every Tuesday he makes the call on who lives and who dies, supposed suspects in places like Yemen and Pakistan and Afghanistan, and that is a war crime and he ought to be held to account.”

Nader called Obama “below average because he raised expectation levels. What expectation level did George W. Bush raise?… He’s below average because he’s above average in his intellect and his knowledge of legality, which is violating with abandon.”

“I don’t know whether George W. Bush ever read the Constitution,” said Nader. “This man taught the Constitution, and this is what we got.”

Nader gave Obama this much: He’s the lesser of two evils when compared to GOP presidential nominee Mitt Romney. But he said Obama is “the more effective evil because he brings credibility, he brings the democratic heritage to it, he has legitimized the lawless war-mongering and militarism abroad of George W. Bush.”

(Also on POLITICO: Obama at U.N. gives robust defense of free speech)

When asked to highlight some positives about Obama’s presidency, Nader said, “I like the way he’s emphasized renewable energy, even though he still supports nuclear and fossil fuels, as if they’re all the same, all of the above. But he does speak more about renewables than any president perhaps since Jimmy Carter.” (Nader will be speaking at the Green Festival in Washington, D.C., later this month.)

And: “He wanted to have a public works program, he really did want to have a jobs program and the Republicans crushed it and that would have created a lot of jobs that couldn’t be exported to China.”

Nader doesn’t let Republicans off easy, either, calling them “the worst Republican Party in history.”

“We’re dealing with a real sick, decaying Democratic Party that can’t defend the country against the cruelest, most ignorant, most anti-worker, most war-mongering, most Wall Street–indentured Republican Party in its history, since the 1850s.”

As for Romney, Nader said “he’s not the old Romney, governor of Massachusetts. He’s had a character and personality makeover. He’s just bought into the extreme right wing of the Republican Party, represented by Paul Ryan, and I don’t think he’s going to be able to shake that. He’s basically a corporation running for president masquerading as a human being.”

For the first time in a long time, Nader is not running for president this year. From the way he puts it, he may be through with such campaigns.

“I’ve run several times and we’ve documented the two-party tyranny, which means they’re very adept at excluding, with a whole variety of ways, third parties.”

It’s not, however, because he’s been billed by some as a political spoiler.

“That’s a politically bigoted words, as if we’re second-class citizens,” said Nader. “Since we’re all trying to get votes from one another, either we’re all spoilers of one another or none of us are spoilers.”


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1 posted on 12/02/2012 2:37:45 PM PST by grundle
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To: grundle

Ralph is still alive? Who knew? Who cares?


2 posted on 12/02/2012 2:45:21 PM PST by zagger
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To: grundle

At least he’s consistent.


3 posted on 12/02/2012 2:46:08 PM PST by rightwingintelligentsia (Be careful of believing something just because you want it to be true.)
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To: zagger

“Ralph is still alive? Who knew? Who cares?”

I don’t agree with many of his positions, but I respect that he is true to his beliefs, unlike most of the hypocrites on the left.


4 posted on 12/02/2012 2:48:35 PM PST by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: grundle
--“He’s gone beyond George W. Bush in drones, for example. He thinks the world is his plate, that national sovereignties mean nothing, drones can go anywhere. They can kill anybody that he suspects and every Tuesday he makes the call on who lives and who dies, supposed suspects in places like Yemen and Pakistan and Afghanistan, and that is a war crime and he ought to be held to account.”--

--never thought I'd have anything to agree with Nader on--must repeat for the choir here that , when the CIA dribbled water over the face of a terrorist caught in the act , it got President Bush and VP Cheny world-wide condemnation as "war criminals"---

-THE ONE sits in his "darkened room" and blows away groups of people in countries with which we are not at war, with impunity---

5 posted on 12/02/2012 2:49:44 PM PST by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the media or government says about firearms or explosives--)
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To: grundle
They can kill anybody that he suspects and every Tuesday he makes the call on who lives and who dies

Sounds like Ralph has been checking out the Death Panels at www.Obamacare.legalizingmurder.org.

6 posted on 12/02/2012 2:52:24 PM PST by RetiredArmy (1 Cor 15: 50-54 & 1 Thess 4: 13-17. That about covers it.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
At least he’s consistent.

Doubtful. Who do you think he voted for?

7 posted on 12/02/2012 2:53:16 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

I wouldn’t be surprised if he wrote his own name in.


8 posted on 12/02/2012 3:00:34 PM PST by rightwingintelligentsia (Be careful of believing something just because you want it to be true.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

I never knew that Ralph Nader was a racist hatemonger?


9 posted on 12/02/2012 3:03:51 PM PST by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: rellimpank
You got it: Nader's right about this one. The whole so-called Peace Movement just about folded under Obama, when in fact Obama is a murderer; an international assassin; a outlaw serial killer. It seems only Nader will criticize him from the Left.

And who else?

10 posted on 12/02/2012 3:25:23 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Point of information.)
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To: grundle

I thought he was dead.


11 posted on 12/02/2012 3:26:48 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: pieceofthepuzzle

I used to think that too, but then when I attended one of his lectures all bright-eyed and naive, I remember him distinctly pooh-poohing something one of his associates did that WAS inconsistent and hypocritical. The questioner was not being belligerent and raised a good point. Ralphie shook his head, basically blowing the guy off. It showed me he agreed and didn’t want to answer.

That was the end of buying his books, etc.


12 posted on 12/02/2012 3:42:16 PM PST by A_Former_Democrat (Elections do have consequences, young people of America)
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To: grundle
said Nader. “This man taught the Constitution, and this is what we got.” Nader gave Obama this much: He’s the lesser of two evils when compared to GOP presidential nominee Mitt Romney. But he said Obama is “the more effective evil because he brings credibility, he brings the democratic heritage to it, he has legitimized the lawless war-mongering and militarism abroad of George W. Bush.”

All that and no mention of the sacking of Libya tells me Ralph is an uninformed fool.

13 posted on 12/02/2012 4:07:17 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: grundle

Good luck with that Ralphie. Barry Benghazi has this huge zombie army that is impossible to penetrate. It’s run the by his Nazi zombies in his “media”. He could molest goats out on the White House lawn and the unwashed masses could care less.


14 posted on 12/02/2012 4:14:36 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Don't tax me bro! Tax that guy over there!)
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To: grundle

Obama taught the Constitution? That would be news to his students then.


15 posted on 12/02/2012 4:24:23 PM PST by Hotlanta Mike (Us and Them...)
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To: grundle

Careful Ralph, you might end up on Obama’s naughty list and potentially be targeted for assassination without judicial review.


16 posted on 12/02/2012 4:26:07 PM PST by Hotlanta Mike (Us and Them...)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

—yeah—under Bush-Cheney, the “darkened room” story would have resulted in indictments, trials in absentia and places to which they couldn’t travel without fear of arrest——


17 posted on 12/02/2012 4:52:26 PM PST by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the media or government says about firearms or explosives--)
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To: grundle

Bush, right or wrong, told us that there were Weapons of Mass Destruction in Iraq and that Hussein might use them. The American public remembered that Hussein had invaded Kuwait and were basically OK with removing Hussein.
Now, what were the reasons that Obama and Hillary gave for using American taxpayer money, personnel, equipment and facilities to overthrow the governments of Libya and Egypt with an ongoing attempt in Syria?Weapons of Mass Destruction? Because Egypt invaded someone and might do it again? Nothing. No explanation given. Democrats kill people because they can.


18 posted on 12/02/2012 4:56:20 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: A_Former_Democrat

This weird-ass ascetic leftist zealot has been one of the most destructive forces to American industry, lifestyle an economy in history.
He’s been a prime mover in the ascent of the federal nanny state and a black mark on human progress and freedom.


19 posted on 12/02/2012 5:08:12 PM PST by Carl LaFong (Vera the possum is US.)
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To: grundle

Unfortunately, the clueless and blinkered Nader can’t see what’s in front of his eyes - that Obama isn’t even the slightest bit interested in criticism of any variety, and intends to aggregate power to his Marxist regime until a truly one-man government is inevitable.

But then Ralph Nader was always one to scream at the wrong things.


20 posted on 12/02/2012 5:23:25 PM PST by Jack Hammer
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To: grundle
shut up Nader.....do not even pretend to complain....you've let this scum get away with it all for 4 yrs now....

people that supported bammey boy have no right to complain....likewise, those who didn't support Romney because he wasn't pure enough...

no complaining.....just take it...take it..take it...take it....lots of us tried to warn about bammey boy but were sneered at...

21 posted on 12/02/2012 6:44:09 PM PST by cherry
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To: grundle

Obama taught constitutional law? I don’t think so.


22 posted on 12/02/2012 8:11:36 PM PST by gotribe
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To: blueunicorn6

Bush was eventually proved correct that there were at least chemical WMD in Iraq when Saddam was deposed.


23 posted on 12/02/2012 9:01:02 PM PST by Post Toasties (Leftists give insanity a bad name. 0bama: Eight years of failure and fingerpointing.)
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