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Red State, Blue City: How the Urban-Rural Divide is Splitting America
The Atlantic ^ | November 30, 2012 | Josh Kron

Posted on 12/01/2012 9:14:27 PM PST by Seizethecarp

The new political divide is a stark division between cities and what remains of the countryside. Not just some cities and some rural areas, either -- virtually every major city (100,000-plus population) in the United States of America has a different outlook from the less populous areas that are closest to it. The difference is no longer about where people live, it's about how people live: in spread-out, open, low-density privacy -- or amid rough-and-tumble, in-your-face population density and diverse communities that enforce a lower-common denominator of tolerance among inhabitants.

The only major cities that voted Republican in the 2012 presidential election were Phoenix, Oklahoma City, Fort Worth, and Salt Lake City. With its dominant Mormon population, Mitt Romney was a lock in the Utah capital; Phoenix nearly voted for Obama. After that, the largest urban centers to tilt Republican included Wichita, Lincoln, Neb., and Boise.

The gap is so stark that some of America's bluest cities are located in its reddest states. Every one of Texas' major cities -- Austin, Dallas, Houston, and San Antonio -- voted Democratic in 2012, the second consecutive presidential election in which they've done so. Other red-state cities that tipped blue include Atlanta, Indianapolis, New Orleans, Birmingham, Tucson, Little Rock, and Charleston, S.C. -- ironically, the site of the first battle of the Civil War. In states like Nevada, the only blue districts are often also the only cities, like Reno and Las Vegas.

(Excerpt) Read more at theatlantic.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012election; 2012electionanalysis; bluecities; bluezones; demographics; obama; redstates; rural; urban
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Old news but interesting maps and graphics...
1 posted on 12/01/2012 9:14:48 PM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: Seizethecarp

If I remember my history, didn’t Ben Franklin want three presidents of the US at the same time to represent the different groups, Rural, merchant and big city?


2 posted on 12/01/2012 9:19:11 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (The parasites now outnumber the producers.)
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To: Seizethecarp

There are a lot of studies on this. Factors that play into this include the ability to micro target these areas with marketing, especially unorthodox methods. Large populations in close proximity lead to more ‘group think’- it is natural in large groups to go with the flow. Think of large schools of fish. The suburbs are moving further and further out of the main city and into surrounding cities (Think Chandler for Phoenix or Garland for Dallas). There is also the exposure to more services liberals push so it becomes second nature to accept its existence. Public transportation is a good example. You are dependent on government services to get around. Government can control your movements simply by accessibility of these services.

Rural and smaller towns are just the opposite. You are more independent, free to move, and less likely to formulate your opinions based on what your neighbors think. If you want to do something as simple as go across town, you are not dependent on government services and timetables to make this happen. The smaller towns you are in, the more generic political messages become due to the cost/return factor.


3 posted on 12/01/2012 9:31:04 PM PST by mnehring
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To: Seizethecarp

A more interesting graph would be to show each of these blue cities as related to their fiscal stability, without federal or state subsidies added in.
Under that criteria, I would bet these bastions of liberal blue would in fact look like black holes, consuming the productivity of the surrounding pinkish suburbs and red of the rural areas.


4 posted on 12/01/2012 9:42:51 PM PST by WILLIALAL
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To: Seizethecarp

Polarized America File.


5 posted on 12/01/2012 9:51:21 PM PST by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: Seizethecarp
I've been thinking about this and the so called divide.

I think 75 or 100 years ago the country was just as divided between rural and city as today. The difference is the 24/7 news cycle and the fact that there is just not that much to talk, pontificate about...so they turn debate into entertainment

With the 24/7 news far to many have bought into the notion that this county is homogeneous and we just need to get along. In my view nothing can be further from the truth, as long as we are Americans we will muddle through. Most folks are not the loons of the left or right but in our system we need both. They define and set the parameters of the debate which is how we have always done it...

6 posted on 12/01/2012 9:52:48 PM PST by montanajoe
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To: Seizethecarp
the cities know they can NOT live without rural areas, they also know the rural areas CAN live without the cities...
7 posted on 12/01/2012 9:55:51 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Seizethecarp

How many of these blue cities have large dhimmiecrap political machines (ergo voter fraud) and substantial populations of owebama’s people? Most of them.

Electoral votes need to be awarded proportionately or the Red country areas are going to continue to get screwed by the blue cities.

When I was in college I learned of an experiment that consisted of two groups of rats. One group was placed in a large area where each one had lots of space. They acted like normal rats. The second group was placed into a small space and were crowded tightly together. They developed violent, aggressive behavior and were not very happy rats. Country life/city life.


8 posted on 12/01/2012 10:07:57 PM PST by 43north (BHO: 50% black, 50% white, 100% RED)
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To: WILLIALAL

Leftists consider big dense cities to be more “substainable” than the rural areas.

They are that stupid.


9 posted on 12/01/2012 10:09:00 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: 43north

You’re definitely on to something with the population density. I’ve long been of the opinion that too great a population density leads to a mild form mass psychosis. Most folks who live in the city just can’t see it, though.


10 posted on 12/01/2012 10:11:22 PM PST by Sparticus (Tar and feathers for the next dumb@ss Republican that uses the word bipartisanship.)
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To: 43north

You’re definitely on to something with the population density. I’ve long been of the opinion that too great a population density leads to a mild form mass psychosis. Most folks who live in the city just can’t see it, though.


11 posted on 12/01/2012 10:11:36 PM PST by Sparticus (Tar and feathers for the next dumb@ss Republican that uses the word bipartisanship.)
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To: Seizethecarp
Urban-Rural Divide is Splitting America...

Have no fear about any split. Agenda 21 will fix it from happening.

12 posted on 12/01/2012 10:30:56 PM PST by C210N (In favor of private rights and public happiness)
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To: 43north
When I was in college I learned of an experiment that consisted of two groups of rats. One group was placed in a large area where each one had lots of space. They acted like normal rats. The second group was placed into a small space and were crowded tightly together. They developed violent, aggressive behavior and were not very happy rats. Country life/city life.

You omitted the reason why the experiment eventually ended. The "city rats" became homosexual and died out.

13 posted on 12/01/2012 10:34:09 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA; Ignorance on parade.)
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To: Sparticus
I remember my roommate who said (in the '80s) that eventually the big cities would become one entity.

He called it Bos-Was. Meaning an almost singular bloc from Boston to DC.

Turns out he was right.

14 posted on 12/01/2012 10:34:17 PM PST by boop ("I need another Cutty Sark"-LBJ)
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To: Seizethecarp
Old news but interesting maps and graphics...

Yeah, this is indeed nothing new.
Every county-by-county post-election map I've ever seen vividly displays tiny blue concentrated Democrat parasite nests ("cities") and huge land masses of red everywhere else.

15 posted on 12/01/2012 10:39:29 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: okie01

You’re absolutely right. I’d forgotten about that. Been living in the country too long I guess...


16 posted on 12/01/2012 10:41:51 PM PST by 43north (BHO: 50% black, 50% white, 100% RED)
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To: mnehring

Other factors would include the prevalence of academics within the cities and that it is easier and cheaper for Democratic candidates to reach voters in cities than it would be for Republicans to reach voters in rural areas.

Technology such as the net and social networks should be able to bridge the gap for Republicans, but the GOP seems to be far behind the Democrats in utilizing those technologies.


17 posted on 12/01/2012 11:46:18 PM PST by OKRA2012
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To: Seizethecarp

Social services and needy. Chicken and egg argument.


18 posted on 12/01/2012 11:46:59 PM PST by pacpam (action=consequence and applies in all cases - friend of victory)
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To: Seizethecarp

It’s not really a divide when 79.219% of the population lives in urban areas. Just sayin’.


19 posted on 12/02/2012 12:51:20 AM PST by Melas (u)
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To: mnehring

I don’t know how much I agree with that. My experience has been the complete opposite. I lived in a very rural East Texas town for a decade...worst ten years of my life. Conformity and uniformity ruled the day in East Texas. Everyone dressed alike, thought alike, spoke alike, etc. Now in DFW, there is much more diversity of every kind.


20 posted on 12/02/2012 12:55:44 AM PST by Melas (u)
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To: Sparticus

Having lived in both. Country living for me is nothing short of Hell on Earth. I don’t begrudge those who enjoy that sort of thing, but I could never do it again. In small towns everyone is up in your business, there is never anything to do, DQ is not a real restaurant, everything is long drive, it’s lonely...and I could go on all day.


21 posted on 12/02/2012 12:59:59 AM PST by Melas (u)
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To: Melas

Glad you are a reeper in the city. Me II hate cities, I love waking up on this mountain and seeing the deer and sometimes a bear in my yard.I can shoot in my back yard and there is noone to bitch. I heat with wood and could live months with out power. Diverent strokes I quess


22 posted on 12/02/2012 2:37:07 AM PST by TLEIBY308 (Keep yer powder dry and watch yer top Knot.)
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To: Sparticus

I would add one unusual factor. If you move into an urban community....most folks typically aren’t into newspapers anymore, but you do turn on the morning and evening local news. In the majority of cases, I’ve come to notice from the urban prospective (I always lived in the rural parts of America and overseas until three years ago)...that the local network guys are carrying a more slanted view of the news. After a decade of watching it...you probably would become more capable to believing a liberal view than a Conservative view.


23 posted on 12/02/2012 2:55:39 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: Melas

That’s just the difference between people. Some people, like you, love the excitement of the big city and all the services. Some people like seclusion far away from the bright city lights and the hustle and bustle. I live about 15 miles from any semi-major metro buildup almost in the country but not quite (there’s farm acreage outside my backyard). I like it that I don’t have close neighbors. The really big city is 140 miles away, and that’s alright by me.


24 posted on 12/02/2012 3:42:10 AM PST by driftless2
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To: Melas
"Having lived in both. Country living for me is nothing short of Hell on Earth. I don’t begrudge those who enjoy that sort of thing, but I could never do it again. In small towns everyone is up in your business, there is never anything to do, DQ is not a real restaurant, everything is long drive, it’s lonely...and I could go on all day.

I gotta ask....WHERE "in the country" did you live?? I grew up in "deep country" in Louisiana, and there was never a lack of things to do or a shortage of good restaurants within reasonable driving distance. With today's electronic access to virtually everything, the situation is even better.

And yes, I spent many years in a city of >100K population (Baton Rouge), and a couple of years in Houston.

I hope never to live in a city again.

25 posted on 12/02/2012 4:06:33 AM PST by Wonder Warthog
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To: TLEIBY308

My sister and her husband live the same way - and in the same part of Pa as you. It’s the ideal lifestyle, IMHO. We live away from the city as well, in a small coal-mining patch town. Only a few homes left here, so it’s not too bad. At least we all mind our own business. I loath the city. You couldn’t pay me to live in any city.


26 posted on 12/02/2012 4:10:13 AM PST by sneakers (Go Sheriff Joe!)
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To: Wonder Warthog; Melas
I hope never to live in a city again.

Same here. The first and last time I visited Dallas I decided to walk from the hotel to downtown and back. On the way back I walked from garages costing $20 / day (and this was many years ago), to lots charging $10, to $3 lots to $1 lots to some open lots that were apparently free. Then came a completely decrepit neighborhood, then commercial areas and difficult to cross highways and finally my hotel.

The cities might not be too bad in some spots and some respects, but they attract and are surrounded by filth, isolated by traffic-clogged roads and utterly dependent on cars (e.g. my hotel and many other venues). Melas complains that everything is a long drive in the country but neglects to mention that there are no traffic lights and natural beauty the whole way.

27 posted on 12/02/2012 4:24:54 AM PST by palmer (Jim, please bill me 50 cents for this completely useless post)
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To: Melas

Actually, rural and small town USA is disappearing, has been since WWII. But, now the tipping point has been passed and the small towns are no longer able to sustain themselves. The hub or focal point of small towns and surrounds rural areas has alway been the local school, the glue that held them together. But, sadly their head count has dropped so low it has become necessary to close many and consolidate where feasible. As a couple of others have stated, the young are fleeing just as soon as the are able as there is absolutely nothing to hold them, zero, unless your family is int farming and the farm/ranch is large enough to support multiple families. Even then, many of these have become absentee owners, living in the nearby metropolitan area and paying a manager to run the property. Most of the people remaining are old, run down, many lame, go into a grocery store and watch the transactions ahead of you, virtually all purchases paid with an EBT card. Sad, sad, sad......


28 posted on 12/02/2012 4:52:01 AM PST by snoringbear (Government is the Pimp,)
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To: mnehring

If the rural areas, tired of being dictated to by urban centers, just said - ‘grow your own food’, or ‘make pianos and furniture from your own trees’, or make your subway trains and tall buildings with steel made from ore mined from your city’, etc., etc. the urban centers would have a problem.


29 posted on 12/02/2012 5:22:16 AM PST by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: Melas
It’s not really a divide when 79.219% of the population lives in urban areas. Just sayin’.

This is one of the reasons why it seems to me so many FReepers don't understand how outnumbered they are, or how fringe some of their views have become.

30 posted on 12/02/2012 5:29:36 AM PST by Strategerist
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To: Sparticus
The internet lessens the economic advantages of cities. It's now very possible to work for a big company while sitting lakefront in the quiet mountains, or even in a mud hut on the other side of the planet. The internet may take down the 1800s invention of the big city. On the other hand the internet greatly lessens privacy, with the younger generation posting to the world forever what they ate last night, watched on TV, and their every half-baked thought. Is the net effect of the internet a bigger world or a smaller one?

Canada and Australia are leftist, but their overall population density is very low. That's because they mostly live in cities. If their governments want to create more happiness for their citizens, they should use the internet and other technologies to get their people to spread out. Humans were never meant to live like insects. From a national security perspective, cities are nuclear sitting ducks.


31 posted on 12/02/2012 5:32:14 AM PST by Reeses
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To: Melas

http://conservativebyte.com/2012/08/obamas-plan-to-eliminate-suburbs/

Obama’s Plan to Eliminate Suburbs

“It’s all about people fleeing, wanting a better life, and leaving behind their poor neighbors about whom they cared nothing. How basically the suburbs are made up of a bunch of selfish, greedy people who don’t care about their fellow man. That’s how Obama was raised. And, indeed, it is what many leftists believe. And I have to tell you, folks, the constant push by Democrats to get us into mass transit is all about destroying the cities. Let’s take a look. In California, Moonbeam Brown, the governor, is intent — what are they, $16 billion in debt? $16 billion state deficit, right? Maybe even higher. And what are they focusing on? What is one of Governor Brown’s primary objectives? This bullet train, a speed train from nowhere to nowhere.

Why? Mass transit. And the key word in mass transit is “mass.” As far as liberals are concerned, leader liberals, central planners, we are the masses. I remember Reagan I think in that famous Goldwater speech in 1964 made a point of saying how much it offended him to be considered a member of the masses, that we don’t have masses in America, that we are made up of beautifully, wonderfully free individuals, pursuing happiness and liberty. That we’re not a nameless, faceless conglomerate. We’re not “the masses” under state control. And yet this is the dream of the American left. That’s what Kurtz is writing about. Mass transit. I mean all these light rail trains, every time I see one there’s hardly anyone on ‘em. Mass transit cannot support itself in most cities. There’s no interest in it. America still has its love affair with the automobile.”


32 posted on 12/02/2012 5:46:10 AM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: driftless2

I’ve lived in large cities, Miami and Ft. Lauderdale, and small cities, Asheville, NC and Greenville, SC. I will never live in a big city again. I am now living in a small city suburb of Greenville and love it. People are friendly, the weather is good, Christianity is accepted, we have everything the big cities do except a lot of democrats!

And I saw Lindsey Graham at our Christmas (not holiday) Parade last night. He was in the parade and I didn’t hear anyone yelling obscenities at him.:)


33 posted on 12/02/2012 5:52:51 AM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: Seizethecarp

-—— what remains of the countryside.———

Josh, son, This is your ass, that over there is a hole in the ground.

You need to get out more, further out into the real country. I know, I know, you have allergies and the country makes you sneeze and it is hard to find Norwegian snow melt bottled water, but take the risk.

You have however correctly noted the problem. The cities are where elections are and were stolen. There is no way to correctly count votes nor prevent fraud.

America will be a better place when New York is realy destroyed and the Big’un wrecks San Francisco.


34 posted on 12/02/2012 5:54:34 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....The fairest Deduction to be reduced is the Standard Deduction)
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To: WILLIALAL
Interesting thought. I know a truck driver, who didn't like to take loads into large cities. He said they sucked everything in but not much came out, which made it tough to get a load out. Therefore it wasn't very cost effective for an independent driver to go to the very large cities.
35 posted on 12/02/2012 6:00:37 AM PST by pepperdog ( I still get a thrill up my leg when spell check doesn't recognize the name/word Obama!)
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To: snoringbear
"Actually, rural and small town USA is disappearing, has been since WWII. But, now the tipping point has been passed and the small towns are no longer able to sustain themselves. The hub or focal point of small towns and surrounds rural areas has alway been the local school, the glue that held them together. But, sadly their head count has dropped so low it has become necessary to close many and consolidate where feasible."

There are still plenty of "rural/small town USA" places available. You just have to look a bit to find the successful ones. And although the young may be abandoning "some" rural places, a great many of them are being rejuvenated by retirees who are moving BACK to the country after a career stint in "the big city".

36 posted on 12/02/2012 6:01:30 AM PST by Wonder Warthog
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To: Seizethecarp

A state can be totally red and have a blue city and still win the Presidency because the city is where all the people live. It actually makes plenty of sense. When you have 10,000 people spread out among the state that makes it red and then you have a city with 1,000,000 people living there, it can EASILY make the state Democratic. Not a tough concept.


37 posted on 12/02/2012 6:01:38 AM PST by napscoordinator (GOP Candidate 2020 - "Bloomberg 2020 - We vote for whatever crap the GOP puts in front of us.")
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To: WILLIALAL
consuming the productivity of the surrounding pinkish suburbs and red of the rural areas

Yes, like a cancer feeding on the body and eventually bringing death

38 posted on 12/02/2012 6:04:04 AM PST by Texas Fossil
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To: ilovesarah2012

The only “Community Organizers” in the small towns are the members of the “Lions Club Chili-Feed Committee”. In other words, BitterClingers. And, man, do the “big city dudes” hate them.


39 posted on 12/02/2012 6:05:21 AM PST by radioone
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To: Reeses
"The internet lessens the economic advantages of cities. It's now very possible to work for a big company while sitting lakefront in the quiet mountains, or even in a mud hut on the other side of the planet. The internet may take down the 1800s invention of the big city.

Indeed! My company is located in a rural area about a half-hour drive to Tacoma. We garner business and do sales all over the globe, get raw materials, subcontract operations. Without the internet, our company could not exist. As it is, we are a going (and growing) concern.

"On the other hand the internet greatly lessens privacy, with the younger generation posting to the world forever what they ate last night, watched on TV, and their every half-baked thought. Is the net effect of the internet a bigger world or a smaller one?"

Yes, but the intrusiveness of the internet is something "you"/I have control over. The intrusiveness of urban governments is "not optional".

40 posted on 12/02/2012 6:05:54 AM PST by Wonder Warthog
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To: 43north

Electoral votes need to be awarded proportionately or the Red country areas are going to continue to get screwed by the blue cities.

Absolutely NOT. The Democrats want to get rid of the electoral college and you want to tinker with it. NO WAY! if we want to win, we need to pick a candidate that believes the way that we do and not some stupid liberal piece of crap that they nominated this year. Very simple solution to us winning!!!


41 posted on 12/02/2012 6:06:15 AM PST by napscoordinator (GOP Candidate 2020 - "Bloomberg 2020 - We vote for whatever crap the GOP puts in front of us.")
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To: montanajoe
Most folks are not the loons of the left or right but in our system we need both. They define and set the parameters of the debate which is how we have always done it...

Maybe you haven't kept up with current events...

The inner city is composed of people who don't work and spend there days engaged in crime of some sort. Nothing good or productive comes out of it. There is no political viewpoint beyond give me more free stuff. If they attend a church at all it is to hear about how oppressed they are. Those people rule this nation and set direction because they have the media to peddle their viewpoint and their political leaders are thugs with no respect for the rule of law.

The suburbs and rural areas consist of people who get up every morning and go to work. They get up on Sunday and go to real churches where they are exhorted to be moral, generous, and hardworking. These people have been utterly marginalized. Even when the candidates they elect win, they only manage about a 10% reduction in the rate of growth of government that the former group wants to provide their free stuff.

This narrative that we are just groups with different viewpoints that need to compromise is utterly fraudulent.

The latter group comprises a functioning, prosperous nation. The former group is a dysfunctional third world hellhole sucking blood from the carotid artery of the latter.

Keep negotiating and making your compromises, but you are starting to look awfully pale. You aren't going to muddle through this.

42 posted on 12/02/2012 6:20:11 AM PST by hopespringseternal
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To: okie01
You omitted the reason why the experiment eventually ended. The "city rats" became homosexual and died out.

Seriously? I never heard that about the "population sink" study. It sounds too much like a punchline to be true, although I wouldn't dismiss it outright.

In any event, cities are great places to visit until they become not-so-great places to visit... and they all get there eventually.

Mr. niteowl77

43 posted on 12/02/2012 6:23:48 AM PST by niteowl77 (Getting stuck with other peoples' just desserts good and hard for over 50 years.)
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To: Seizethecarp
Remember. Voter Fraud is centered in Big Cities! Fact!
44 posted on 12/02/2012 6:27:51 AM PST by Texas Fossil
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To: Strategerist

“This is one of the reasons why it seems to me so many FReepers don’t understand how outnumbered they are, or how fringe some of their views have become.”

Well, for one thing, the 79% urban population number is a flat-out falsehood. Cities have been losing population for 50 years and continue to do so. All you need do is compare population numbers from 1960 to today and the falling population in cities is apparent. Seattle has more dogs than children. Detroit is being reclaimed by nature. Cities are dead or dying.

The bulk of the population now lives in exurbia. Read any survey and you’ll discover that families with children are fleeing cities by the millions. If you want to see where the future population growth will happen, head to exurban areas in the south, which are filled with schools, playgrounds and children. Walk through a southern mall parking lot in Baptist territory and note all the little stick figures that people paste in the back window of their SUVs. There’s a lot of kids represented.


45 posted on 12/02/2012 6:30:16 AM PST by sergeantdave (The FBI has declared war on the Marine Corps)
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To: sergeantdave
That view may be true in the south, but in the NE and even out west, the suburbs have become more urbanized, while the cities have become gentrified, and more expensive to live in than either suburbia or exurbia. US birthrates are now at an all time low, and most of the growth has come from 1st generation immigrants and their children.

Besides all of the growing, dynamic areas of the south are yankeefied anyway. Anglo-Celtic evangelicals will never be the dominant class in anything outside of the military.

46 posted on 12/02/2012 6:45:11 AM PST by Clemenza ("History, I believe, furnishes no example of a priest-ridden people maintaining a free civil governm)
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To: Seizethecarp
Do liberals ever give this a thought?

.Thus the stage is set for utter disaster.


47 posted on 12/02/2012 7:16:34 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Seizethecarp

I have the best of both worlds. I’m far enough in the country to have the independence, but close enough to a city to take advantage of what it has to offer, with a flood plain in between to provide some separation.


48 posted on 12/02/2012 7:26:55 AM PST by yawningotter
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To: Melas

I guess I had a different experience. After working in 19 states I picked east Texas to buy a place to settle into. I can find everyone from Boulder style liberals to Louie Gomert conservatives.


49 posted on 12/02/2012 7:27:54 AM PST by El Laton Caliente (NRA Life Member & www.Gunsnet.net Moderator)
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To: Clemenza

Most of the job creation in the first decade of the 21st century took place in exurbia. IBM and the financial sector weren’t establishing branches in psycho cities to hire headbangers and gang-bangers. Granholm tried to invigorate Detroit with her idiotic “Cool Cities” scam, and it failed miserably. Companies follow the population groups that can best fill out critical positions to help the company profit and grow. That means hiring individuals with families. Boeing moving to South Carolina is one example of a company abandoning a dying, leftist city and seeking out a population that can help the bottom line.

There’s a lot of myth being propagated by the commies who want to force individuals into ant hill cities.


50 posted on 12/02/2012 7:43:36 AM PST by sergeantdave (The FBI has declared war on the Marine Corps)
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