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To: Windflier

“If these uneducated shlubs want to push it, and unionize all the fast food workers across the country, then there will be a lot less fast food restaurants, and a lot fewer of those kinds of jobs for entry level workers. In the end, who wins? Who loses?”

I’m still not being clear. I don’t personally care if the burger flippers unionize or not. I don’t eat there.

My point is ,if McDs doesn’t want to raise their pay, and they can unionize and get a pay bump. They’re within their rights to do that.
McDs can then close or do whatever option is best.

The workers are pushing the cost of labor up...period.

A friend of mine who had been working as an independent driver with his own truck just recently gave that up and started looking for a new way to make a living due to the cost of fuel.
The fuel company doesn’t owe him low cost fuel.
These workers don’y owe McDs low cost labor.

There seem to be several solutions. Raise their pay. Don’t raise their pay and hope they just go back to work.
Deal with a union if they organize one and either raise prices and pay them or close up shop.

You seem to be taking this personally.


152 posted on 12/02/2012 4:48:36 PM PST by snarkybob (')
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To: snarkybob

You keep leaving out “Replace the workers who won’t work for that pay with those that will”

That is definitely an option and should always be an option


153 posted on 12/02/2012 4:50:13 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: snarkybob

You said something like 3 options, raise pay, unionize, or close.

How about kick the workers out on their ass and put up a help-wanted sign.....


155 posted on 12/02/2012 4:58:51 PM PST by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/?)
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To: snarkybob
These workers don’y owe McDs low cost labor.

Right, and McDonalds doesn't owe them a job - low paying, high paying, or in between. They're paying these workers what the market will bear.

That's what you seem to be missing here. These folks don't have a right to a bigger slice of the pie in that company. They willingly chose to perform unskilled labor for a low wage. That wage can't be higher than it is, due to the cost of the products being produced, and the cost of all the other related overhead and expenses involved with running one of those stores.

If these folks want to make a higher wage, then they've got to confront the fact that they'll have to produce a tangible service that's of greater value to the buying public.

They can organize, go on strike, complain to the media, threaten their employers, pout and stomp their feet, but the fact remains, no one's cheating them out of anything and they're not being harmed in any way.

It's up to them to improve their lot in life, if that's their desire. Applying force to obtain greater material rewards, while not increasing their exchange with those who pay them, is nothing short of criminal. It's leftist think, and destructive to everyone concerned.

And now, I really do need to end off on this. There's really nothing more for me to say. If you still sympathize with these workers, that's your business. You're welcome to your viewpoint.

160 posted on 12/02/2012 7:35:27 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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