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Obama's Re-Election Mandate: Guess Whose Money He's Targeting Next?
Townhall.com ^ | December 1, 2012 | Rachel Alexander

Posted on 12/01/2012 7:11:15 AM PST by Kaslin

Many Americans didn't bother to vote in the past presidential election, some out of apathy or a belief that the election would hardly affect them. They are in for a rude awakening now that Obama has won re-election. His Santa Claus false promises are unsustainable, so there are going to be few winners and a lot of losers as he redistributes wealth. Obama ran on a platform of making the rich “pay their fair share of taxes,” but raising taxes on the wealthy will only fund the federal government for eight days a year. In order to even partially keep up with federal spending and debt payments, he will have to find new ways to take money from the middle class.

Private sector 401k and IRA owners are first on the Democrats' radar and may see their plans taken away soon. House Democrats are planning on eliminating those tax breaks and converting the private plans to government-controlled retirement accounts, where they will be at risk for insolvency.

The poor and lower middle classes filing bankruptcy are the next demographic being selectively targeted by the Obama administration. Last spring, federal bankruptcy courts and trustees started aggressively going after the paltry assets and incomes of the poorest Americans filing bankruptcy, demanding portions of their low wages, and assets such as their only car, in order to bring in more money for federal coffers and declare that bankruptcies have gone down under Obama. This was implemented despite federal bankruptcy laws' promise of a “fresh start” for the poor filing bankruptcy. Last year, bankruptcy courts targeting the poor like this was unheard of. Now, millions of Americans in the real estate industry who lost their jobs are finding out there is little relief for them in bankruptcy, as they are forced to pay bankruptcy attorneys to defend them in additional proceedings that can drag out for months.

Certain industries, anticipating worse economic times with Obama's re-election, have begun laying off thousands of workers. Some CEOs boldly announced the layoffs the day after the election, blaming them on Obama. The main industries laying off employees include technology, wireless, retail, grocery and healthcare, where the lowest-level employees have been hardest hit. Restaurant chains like Papa Johns are slashing employees' hours to less than 40 hours a week in order to avoid the expense of Obamacare and are raising prices.

Many middle class Americans will see their pensions eliminated or slashed, financially devastating for those under 55 years old who are aware that Social Security will be insolvent by the time they retire. The percentage of workers in America covered by a traditional pension plan fell from 62 percent in 1983 to 17 percent in 2007.

Government employees, represented by Obama-supporting public unions, fought tooth and nail to ensure that Obama won re-election, but Obama is not saving all their jobs and pensions. Older Americans falsely believed that if they paid into a government pension and relied upon it, it would be there for them when they retired. This is not true; it is no longer just newly hired employees who need to worry about losing their pensions. One retired firefighter in Rhode Island had his pension cut by $1,100/mth, and other firefighters saw their pensions cut by more than half. Several states have cut cost of living increases for existing pensioners. Many state and local governments are laying off employees. This is a pattern that is increasing, not decreasing around the country.

Non-union members are losing their pensions at an even higher rate than union employees. 20,000 auto employees lost most of their pensions when the U.S. Treasury Department decided to bail out General Motors. At the same time, those GM employees who were part of the United Auto Workers Union saw their pensions topped off and preserved. Pensions in the private sector are increasingly underfunded. Verizon's private pension plan is underfunded by $3.4 billion. If economic conditions continue to deteriorate, bankruptcy may not protect them. When corporations file bankruptcy, the courts tend to let them out of pension obligations to employees and retired employees.

Americans living in states where private sector employees are outnumbered by those dependent on government will be affected the worst. Known as “death spiral states,” these 11 states are considered high risk for economic default, shunned by investors. Americans in the real estate, investment, hospitality and tourism industries especially will face tougher times in these states over the next few years as those industries shrivel up and lay off workers, and municipal bankruptcies increase. Financial affairs in Stockton, California, have gotten so bad that police will only respond to calls for assistance if there is “blood involved.” Since 2009, the city has cut 25 percent of its police officers, 30 percent of its Fire Department and over 40 percent of all other city employees.

Everyone is familiar with troubled Hollywood star Lindsay Lohan's multiple prosecutions for theft, drunk driving incidents, traffic accidents and drug use. Yet no matter how many times she is arrested, she never serves more than a few days in jail because Los Angeles County cannot afford to lock up anyone but the most serious felons.

These are a just a few of the many ways Obama is stealthily taking away more money from the middle class. He brazenly targets certain types of Americans for austere fiscal measures, while giving others a free pass. He bails out Government Motors and its union employees with taxpayers' money, while Americans in the real estate industry who did nothing wrong are hassled for months as they try to file bankruptcy, with some of their bankruptcies ultimately thrown out. The liberal-dominated media has helped Obama accomplish this by failing to write about the selective targeting. Instead, the media hypes up stories of Obama playing Santa Claus. Obama does not care about the middle class, he cares about which special interests, such as unions, can contribute the most to Democrats' elections.

If Mitt Romney had been elected president, he would have pulled government out of the business of choosing winners and losers, allowing the private sector to create jobs and wealth again. Instead, the U.S. has turned into a feeding frenzy, with Americans fighting and clawing for whatever they can get at the expense of their neighbors.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Editorial
KEYWORDS: 401k; broke; obama; pensions; share; socialsecurity; stolen; underfunded; wealth
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1 posted on 12/01/2012 7:11:20 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

“Many Americans didn’t bother to vote in the past presidential election, some out of apathy or a belief that the election would hardly affect them.”

Those are the only people I’m more happy to see shafted than than liberals.

Laziness is a greater sin past that of deliberately voting for evil.


2 posted on 12/01/2012 7:20:18 AM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: Kaslin

Oh, goody. Marxist thief.


3 posted on 12/01/2012 7:21:45 AM PST by madison10 (“Obama’s fools and Stalin’s fools share the same drink of illusion.” ~~Pravda)
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To: Kaslin

Dennis Prager commented during the campaign on the support for Obama among younger voters, saying “Never in history have so many people voted so enthusiastically against their own interests.”

He could have said the same thing about rich liberals, low-income people, and minorities. All will suffer as Obama leads these lemmings off the fiscal cliff.

The result of the turmoil is likely to be more federal intervention, more rule by decree, and more pandering to groups which were supposed to be pets of the administration. When will these pets begin to realize that they are being abused by their pretended champion?

In a situation like this, the tough have a better chance to survive. Those will be people who can take care of themselves, and rural people more than urbanized folk. Gun owners and those who can raise food will be better off than people in cities. States with little debt will do better than states who are, even now, broke.

The devil always makes lavish promises, but in the end, never delivers. So it is also with socialism.


4 posted on 12/01/2012 7:27:55 AM PST by docbnj
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To: docbnj

Voting under the second amendment will begin promptly when this loser takes down this system.


5 posted on 12/01/2012 7:30:48 AM PST by Mouton (Voting is an opiate of the electorate. Nothing changes no matter who wins..)
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To: Kaslin

I’m not sure what everyone is complaining about. Good steak and lobster dinners in D.C. don’t exactly grow on trees.


6 posted on 12/01/2012 7:33:16 AM PST by SpaceBar
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To: Kaslin

” Instead, the U.S. has turned into a feeding frenzy, with Americans fighting and clawing for whatever they can get at the expense of their neighbors.”

Well... not yet. But that day is probably coming.


7 posted on 12/01/2012 7:34:28 AM PST by ILS21R (Everything... IS... a conspiracy)
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To: Kaslin

He ran on a platform of class warfare and massive wealth redistribution. Americans goobled it up and gave him four more. The GOP is out of power for the balance of the nation’s short life. There is absolutely no way the GOP is going to sell hard work and wealth accumlation when Baraq O’Claus is giving out goodies to all “His people” (meaning more than just skin color).


8 posted on 12/01/2012 7:36:36 AM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: Kaslin

At a certain point you lose your deduction anyway. Or at least for the Roth IRA. As long as they don’t try to take ours, let the lower incomes lose that deduction, they voted for it. I’m sorry but I’m not feeling much sympathy these days, let them all expire, let’s all go off the cliff.


9 posted on 12/01/2012 7:40:52 AM PST by Qwackertoo (Going into Politic Free Zone Momma Grizzly hibernation for a while after this week, maybe forever.)
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To: Kaslin

No mention of the Death Tax


10 posted on 12/01/2012 7:41:18 AM PST by kanawa
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To: Kaslin

Lots and Lots of Dems have retirement plans. Let him try and take them away. This will go over much worse than when Bush tried to privatize a part of Social Security.

It will be the beginning of the end of his presidency. He will be way, way overreaching.


11 posted on 12/01/2012 7:47:49 AM PST by desertfreedom765
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To: Kaslin

Wait until we get near to the end game and the feds “Securitize” the billions of dollars sitting in IRAs, 40iKs and company pension accounts.

To them it’s “Securitize”.

To us it’s “Confiscate”.


12 posted on 12/01/2012 7:56:19 AM PST by Iron Munro (Big Moo & Bronco 'Bama = Robbing From The Hood and Boy Blunder)
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To: Qwackertoo
It is a LOT MORE than just losing a deduction - the Government wants you to “voluntarily convert” these into Social Security annuities. Guess what - that is a CONFISCATION OF YOUR PRIVATE PROPERTY. You get NOTHING to leave to your heirs - ALL MONEY BELONGS TO THE GOVERNMENT /sarc
13 posted on 12/01/2012 7:57:30 AM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: desertfreedom765

He won’t take them away. He’ll promise them something better, and they’ll give them away. And then they’ll blame Bush.


14 posted on 12/01/2012 8:01:15 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Cheerio

“He ran on a platform of class warfare and massive wealth redistribution. Americans goobled it up and gave him four more.”

This has happened before, particularly under FDR. If one watches movies of the 1930s (some of my favorites), there is often an undercurrent of class envy. It is even found in WWII propaganda movies, where the lower-class recruits must educate the snotty rich kid. It is found in anti-Nazi propaganda, where the Nazi officer is shown as an aristocratic, monocle-wearing devotee of high art, but with an evil streak. (In reality, most Nazi’s were lower middle-class, with the highest concentration in what would be the equivalent of our high-school teachers!)

We might look ahead, and wonder what Obama will do as his system collapses. He could simply encourage the process of dissolution of the Constitutional republic, by (for example) admitting unlimited numbers of immigrants, and by socializing by decree. This would be the more peaceful option.

The other is to go to war. This is what Hitler and his supporters chose when they felt that their popularity was waning, and that their economy was not really improving as they claimed. It probably also propelled Roosevelt toward war involvement.

I picture Obama solving the Middle East problem by helping evacuate the Israelis from their country in a rescue operation, as the Arabs overrun the place in a bloodbath. This could be painted as a great, humanitarian move, while bringing “peace” to a troubled area. What a nightmare!


15 posted on 12/01/2012 8:02:23 AM PST by docbnj
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To: Kaslin

Get out of the IRA & 401K plans NOW. Take the tax penalty hit and convert to cash while there is still time...

Turn that cash into “something else”...


16 posted on 12/01/2012 8:04:23 AM PST by Paisan
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To: Kaslin
These are a just a few of the many ways Obama is stealthily taking away more money from the middle class. He brazenly targets certain types of Americans for austere fiscal measures, while giving others a free pass.

Anyone who read Dinesh D'Souza's books or saw the movie 2016 knows what the story is behind the class warfare. In 0bama's view, EVERYONE in this country is the "1%", no matter how rich or poor you are. A poor person in this country has it better than most of the rest of the world. You see, like any true leftist believer, 0bama is a "citizen of the world", not a citizen of any one country. His mission is to bring this entire country down. He sees it as wrong that since WWII this country has been the biggest player and has tried to shape the world in its own way. 0bama wants us to be a nation of equals and he wants an end to "American imperialism". He gives himself away anytime he's caught off guard. From his statement about "American exceptionalism" , to his answer to Joe the Plumber , to his view that civil rights didn't focus on income redistribution,it's all there , and our dumbed down population of uninformed voters don't really get what he means.

In some ways 0bama is the anti-Reagan. Recall how during the '08 campaign there were stories about how he wanted to "study Reagan's presidency." Well as most on FR know, the one thing about Reagan was he may have compromised , but he never lost sight of his principles. His compromises were all for pushing his belief in the greatness of the U.S. and the free market.

0bama has the opposite beliefs. He may compromise (like the 2010 tax cut extension) , but he never loses sight of his ultimate goal, to bring this country to its knees, and destroy it from within. Far from being an empty suit with no core beliefs, he has a very dangerous set of core beliefs. Most sensible Americans would run in horror if they ever really understood his core beliefs.

17 posted on 12/01/2012 8:05:14 AM PST by YankeeReb
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To: Kaslin

Obama,family and friends are on a millions of dollar vacation to Hawaii and he is sucking the American people dry of their savings..What a piece of dung they are..


18 posted on 12/01/2012 8:17:23 AM PST by PLD
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To: Kaslin

Why do you think the Democrats fight so hard against cuts in the federal budget? Because cuts would mean layoffs of Democrat voters. It would mean doing away with the new welfare of a government job for Democrat voters. I guess too many conservatives don’t understand the socialist nations. The leaders in the socialist nations aren’t out pulling weeds in the garden. They lead the high life. Socialism/communism is a way for people to acquire wealth and power who couldn’t acquire wealth and power through the traditional means available in their culture. Socialism/communism is a big lie. The Democrat party is a big lie. I grew up in a union, Democrat family. My father told me over and over that the Republicans were just out to make money. As I grew up, I came to realize that the Democrat party was all about making money, too. They just lie about it. I chose to go with the honest party. Liars lie about everything, and the Democrats are total liars.


19 posted on 12/01/2012 8:20:22 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Cheerio

Sorry, I don’t see that happening.


20 posted on 12/01/2012 8:29:44 AM PST by Qwackertoo (Going into Politic Free Zone Momma Grizzly hibernation for a while after this week, maybe forever.)
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To: blueunicorn6

My own opinion is that he is trying to spark some serious inflation.

For some reason people don’t get very upset when the value of their money is stolen vs having the actual money stolen.

He won’t need to upset anyone by doing this.


21 posted on 12/01/2012 8:31:08 AM PST by desertfreedom765
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To: Paisan

I am thinking of doing that maybe near the end of December.


22 posted on 12/01/2012 8:36:56 AM PST by Patriot Babe
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To: Kaslin

Good article. Well worth the read.


23 posted on 12/01/2012 8:39:10 AM PST by Sunshine Sister
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To: Kaslin
Private sector 401k and IRA owners are first on the Democrats' radar and may see their plans taken away soon.

That would be straight up theft!

24 posted on 12/01/2012 8:44:11 AM PST by Mike Darancette (I don't understand why the Boomers are so passive.)
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To: Kaslin

Elections have consequences.


25 posted on 12/01/2012 8:46:47 AM PST by Mike Darancette (I don't understand why the Boomers are so passive.)
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To: Kaslin

Are we so sure they’ve been going after the ‘poor’ filers of bankruptcy—wanting to avoid paying their bills, but keep their assets?


26 posted on 12/01/2012 9:02:20 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: Kaslin

“Private sector 401k and IRA owners are first on the Democrats’ radar and may see their plans taken away soon. House Democrats are planning on eliminating those tax breaks and converting the private plans to government-controlled retirement accounts, where they will be at risk for insolvency.”

Conversion of existing IRA, 401k to government annuities could trigger a series of critical events. The real threat of conversion or confiscation would result in panic withdrawals from these accounts. Government could counter by freezing retirement withdrawals which would then likely result in panic withdrawal of regular bank accounts, stock and bond portfolios and capital flight. Freezing these accounts would essentially shut down commerce and markets. Businesses would fail and those that survived would stop sending in quarterly taxes. As the government was deprived of income, benefits would not be paid and welfare mobs would riot. Then we will have tyranny or anarchy depending on your location.
It doesn’t take much to start a stampede, and once it starts, it is very difficult to stop.


27 posted on 12/01/2012 9:06:02 AM PST by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est; zero sera dans l'enfer bientot)
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To: Kaslin

California is about to release over 100,000 prisoners who are incarcerated. “They cannot afford to keep them out of the population who can behave”.

They will be released in 3 batches—the worst will be released last, and include serious felony cases & serious sex offenders-most likely to repeat their offenses.


28 posted on 12/01/2012 9:27:28 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: Kaslin

A Chicago thief in the White House. Good job America. Everybody gets a trophy!


29 posted on 12/01/2012 9:31:45 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Don't tax me bro! Tax that guy over there!)
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To: Kaslin

Realize this:

All your 401 money is yours.....

When you die, all the balance can be inherited by your chosen beneficiaries.

When Obama siezes all your 401 money and ‘folds it into a Federal retirement plan”——and you die—there will be not ONE RED CENT left for your family.

Many Americans have had their 401’s and other private pension plans for over 35 years. To set that money aside, under a formula that was told to you up front & then to have the ‘rules changed’ when you are about to use that money is just plain fraud.

But- the Dems are the masters of fraud.

I believe such an action will trigger a revolution and it won’t be pretty for the Libs.


30 posted on 12/01/2012 9:32:07 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: Iron Munro

Redneck Kharma
Our savings are insured by the FDIC, so if the federal government takes our savings some of us will simply help ourselves to bank funds to replace what was taken.
They may object to our methods, but hey—six of one, a half dozen of another. What goes around comes around.


31 posted on 12/01/2012 9:33:52 AM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: Qwackertoo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=s9UD5UEJGEA

See it for yourself.


32 posted on 12/01/2012 9:35:02 AM PST by Excellence (9/11 was an act of faith.)
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To: blueunicorn6
"He won’t take them away. He’ll promise them something better, and they’ll give them away. And then they’ll blame Bush."

Probably true - the fruits of generations of public school education and erasing of any understanding of what built this country and its economy.

33 posted on 12/01/2012 9:42:15 AM PST by Truth29
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To: Kaslin
Last spring, federal bankruptcy courts and trustees started aggressively going after the paltry assets and incomes of the poorest Americans filing bankruptcy, demanding portions of their low wages, and assets such as their only car, in order to bring in more money for federal coffers...

Going after assets benefits creditors or the trustee, not the government.

34 posted on 12/01/2012 9:42:50 AM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Kaslin; All
molon labe
didn't the Dodd/Frank "Banking Bill" already
changed all the rules???...what 2 years ago.
"you get what you paid for, folks.."

If you don't vote....

35 posted on 12/01/2012 9:43:15 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (Anger a Conservative by telling a lie; Anger a Liberal by telling the truth....RWR 8-)
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To: Qwackertoo

I hope you have some serious support system.

IF you have money in an IRA, etc, you are in for a big shock.


36 posted on 12/01/2012 9:45:54 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: Mike Darancette

That would be straight up theft!”

Obama doesn’t care.
Neither does Pelosi or Reid, etc.


37 posted on 12/01/2012 9:50:30 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: tumblindice

The prior bank failures have seriously damaged FDIC funds.

On that topic—remember when we always got word of a few bank failures every Sat AM or Mon AM? The failures have not stopped-—but the announcing of those failures has.

Have not heard of any for over a year.


38 posted on 12/01/2012 9:53:14 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: Kaslin

LOL, another 4 years of confiscation and reditribution by the African communist and his “black agenda” administration.
Congratulations, America.

As for me, I have fertile land, well water (and a creek), a big wood stove (with cooktop), acres of ash trees, a big dog, and I’m armed to the teeth. Plus, I’m nowhere near any concentrated Democrat parasite nest (”city”).

Good luck, everybody.


39 posted on 12/01/2012 9:53:50 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Qwackertoo
Wish I could share your enthusiasm. Suggest you listen to Mark Levin, Constitutional Attorney and President of the Landmark Legal Fund on this subject - 1st hour of Nov 29 2012. I don't see anyone stopping Obama short of the unthinkable.

Levin Audio Rewind
40 posted on 12/01/2012 9:57:13 AM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: Kaslin

The REVENGE Administration only has one fanatical objective and that is to REDISTRIBUTE as much of this country’s wealth as possible.


41 posted on 12/01/2012 10:01:14 AM PST by R0CK3T
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To: Kaslin

Do you know if zer0 can take total control of my savings plan (401K) with out the approval of congress? and will I have any say in this?


42 posted on 12/01/2012 10:16:37 AM PST by reefdiver
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To: Kaslin
2013 (what is coming):

- Inflation: between 10-30% the first year, with another 10-30% increase in 2014 and 2015

- Taxes will skyrocket, first on the wealthy, but that won't be enough, so Obama will go after the middle class (he considers this "whitey money" anyway)

- Housing prices will fall even further as interest rates go up

- Companies will have to spend more money on lending money due to higher interest rates, which will cut their profits and force massive layoffs.

- Many business will close due to Obamacare, and those that remain open will cut back many employees to less than 30 hours per week - Those who rely on investment income will have a very hard time

- Bonds will become a very bad investment, and the stock market will lose anywhere between 20% and 90% of its value very quickly

If you don't have a fixed rate mortgage, refinance to one now! Don't pay off your mortgage early - that is madness with the coming inflation. If you still have an ARM, you are a fool to not convert to a fixed.....today!

Pay off other debt such as credit card debt or car loans.

Don't rely on whole life insurance (it is tied too much to stocks and bonds, which are going to get buried). Get term instead.

Gold will continue to be a safe investment, as well as some foreign currency and commodities (stay OUT of long term US govt bonds)

43 posted on 12/01/2012 10:56:46 AM PST by SkyPilot
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To: Kaslin
I did a cursory search and cannot find a source but I do remember clearly that Ms Laura D’Andrea Tyson as Clinton's top economic adviser pushed for a "one time" expropriation of 15 percent of all private retirement funds, the money would be used to help the inner cities among other things.

Now the Rat Party wants 100 percent.

The Establishment's New Normal


44 posted on 12/01/2012 11:46:03 AM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: docbnj
I picture Obama solving the Middle East problem by helping evacuate the Israelis from their country in a rescue operation, as the Arabs overrun the place in a bloodbath. This could be painted as a great, humanitarian move, while bringing “peace” to a troubled area. What a nightmare!

If you read Daniel, Ezekiel and Revelation, you will see that God had something quite different in mind.

45 posted on 12/01/2012 11:46:30 AM PST by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: Kaslin
House Democrats are planning on eliminating those tax breaks and converting the private plans to government-controlled retirement accounts, where they will be at risk for insolvency.

Last I checked, House Democrats don't call the shots in that chamber.

46 posted on 12/01/2012 11:54:51 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: ridesthemiles

What can we do? Yes, we have lots of money saved, take it out, suffer the penalties? IF it gets that bad, then we’re all screwed. I can’t go crazy thinking about this stuff. I drove myself crazy in Fall of 2008 with the market and decided whatever happens, happens. It was enough to drive me to drinking, lots of wine, back then.


47 posted on 12/01/2012 12:03:29 PM PST by Qwackertoo (Going into Politic Free Zone Momma Grizzly hibernation for a while after this week, maybe forever.)
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To: Cheerio

Thanks, I’ll listen to that. I enjoy listening to Mark Levin, don’t get to listen to him as often as I use to, not in the car that time of day as much since I don’t drive daughter to dance several days a week anymore. Love listening to him and both his books.


48 posted on 12/01/2012 12:05:02 PM PST by Qwackertoo (Going into Politic Free Zone Momma Grizzly hibernation for a while after this week, maybe forever.)
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To: Excellence

I was unaware that Skeletor married. Now I know.


49 posted on 12/01/2012 12:16:58 PM PST by mykroar (BAD-ANON: One Game At A Time)
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To: dirtboy
"Last I checked, House Democrats don't call the shots in that chamber."

Plus, the next congressional redistricting will be based on the 2020 Census and take effect for the 2022 election. Western economies should have crashed, burned and come back to life again by 2022.

The US gov't can print all the money it wants. (This is exactly what they are doing to pay for Zero's profligate spending. So why would they bother? IRA and Koeoh accounts are "small change" compared to Zero's far larger deficits that extend "as far as the eye can see".) This idea is the drug-induced dream of about a half-dozen moonbat 'rats.


50 posted on 12/01/2012 1:21:39 PM PST by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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