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As Supersymmetry Fails Tests, Physicists Seek New Ideas
Simons Science News ^ | November 20, 2012 | Natalie Wolchover

Posted on 11/29/2012 3:10:46 PM PST by neverdem

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To: dr_lew

Thanks for the recommendation. I just bought it for $1.32 on Amazon.


21 posted on 11/29/2012 5:09:27 PM PST by Yardstick
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To: neverdem

Too early for them to be hitting the wall right now, they will hit it one day however.


22 posted on 11/29/2012 5:27:23 PM PST by The Cajun (Sarah Palin, Mark Levin......Nuff said.)
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To: neverdem
While it focuses on disappointment, I liked the article. This is science working as it is intended to, a self correcting mechanism, and scientists themselves accepting that fact.

These people put their professional lives to work on a theory and all they can say now is that it is wrong. That isn't a complete waste of life, because at least we now know it is wrong, but that is not something to cheer people up. But they seem to be handling it well. I prefer scientists acting like this than the thousands of political scientists who juggle the data any which way is necessary to get a grant, and will waste a career promoting junk science.

23 posted on 11/29/2012 5:35:22 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: neverdem

Dr. Frederick Frankenstein: Nothing.

Inga: Oh, Doctor, I'm sorry.

Dr. Frederick Frankenstein: No. No. Be of good cheer. If science teaches us anything, it teaches us to accept our failures, as well as our successes, with quiet dignity and grace.

24 posted on 11/29/2012 5:37:35 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: JRandomFreeper

Good one. I had fun with that post.


25 posted on 11/29/2012 5:40:29 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Vince Ferrer
Instead, Pubs in Congress should vote present, saying they cannot back fiscal insanity, but this is what Americans voted for, so they will get it, courtesy of the Rats.

Bingo. It takes integrity to man up and say, "well, that plan didn't work out". That is what experimental physics is all about; poking nature with a stick and trying to understand what is going on. Scientific progress is not linear. When the model doesn't fit the results, a good scientist discards the model.

26 posted on 11/29/2012 6:00:37 PM PST by Flick Lives (We're going to be just like the old Soviet Union, but with free cell phones!)
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European Agency's Final Verdict on Controversial GM Study: Not Scientifically Sound

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A Step Toward a Universal Cancer Blood Test

Robert Lustig’s “Sugar: The Bitter Truth” lecture "Fructose is ethanol without the buzz." Lustig is down on sucrose too because it's part fructose.It's almost 90 minutes, very well spent.

High fructose corn syrup and diabetes prevalence: A global perspective the original PDF

High-fructose corn syrup linked to type 2 diabetes

On the thread of the last link comment# 22 links a press release about rats getting fat on HFCS even though that diet had the same number of calories as rats that didn't get fat while also drinking a 10 % sucrose solution. Comment# 49 has a link about non-alcoholic steatohepatitis, NASH, aka non-alcoholic fatty liver disease, NAFLD, attributed to excess fructose. It correlates well with the use of HFCS. Comment# 62 has a link about the biochemistry and metabolism of fructose. Comment# 86 has the abstract about rats getting fat on HFCS with isocaloric diets compared to rats not getting HFCS. Comment# 88 has an abstract that shows lousy quality control in making beverages with HFCS-55. The concentration range was 47 - 65%.

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27 posted on 11/29/2012 6:19:47 PM PST by neverdem ( Xin loi min oi)
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To: Vince Ferrer

LOL!


28 posted on 11/29/2012 6:44:01 PM PST by neverdem ( Xin loi min oi)
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To: JRandomFreeper
We see through a glass, darkly.

Did you know that the "glass" referred to by Paul is actually a mirror, a looking glass? It is we who are obscured and coming forth in Christ to our fullness.

29 posted on 11/29/2012 7:21:52 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: BenLurkin
Translation: Science is always guessing

Especially these days - the biggest difference between scientists and philosophers these days is that most scientists can do math.

30 posted on 11/30/2012 3:55:36 AM PST by trebb (Allies no longer trust us. Enemies no longer fear us.)
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To: neverdem

——But there is little to build on. -——

Then there is the real problem that there is a new but unpredicted particle and what do do with it or about it. The discovery is the particle the Sheldon described in a paper out of Cal Tech.

The Sheldon seems to be predictable on some levels but not understood at all on other levels. The Sheldon provides something to build on but popped up so unpredicted that no one is willing to go out on the limb of action to do the math proving that which is actually known to exist.

However I can truthfully agree with C3Po and comment “ It is beyond my capacity”


31 posted on 11/30/2012 4:42:47 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....The fairest Deduction to be reduced is the Standard Deduction)
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Thanks neverdem. And well said, Vince Ferrer and Flick Lives.

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32 posted on 11/30/2012 5:54:43 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: neverdem

Hello Loop Quantum Gravity.


33 posted on 12/01/2012 2:22:40 PM PST by Paradox (Unexpected things coming for the next few years.)
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